I'm trying something a bit different. My object is to hunt down all the diamond cases in Leboa before taking on any missions at all, including the Weapon Shop ones, which of course means using nothing more than a Makarov pistol, a G3-KA4 and the Fortune crossbow for dealing with the odd AT and/or pesky sniper. I'm also not taking any bus trips. To offset the trickiness of the task I'm playing on Normal. The last two 'thrus I played were on Infamous and even armed to the teeth I managed to run my rescue buddy's legs off, so attempting what I currently am on Infamous is a challenge I'll leave for another day :-\\ So far I've done the central sector and the western third of the map, starting from the SW corner and going clockwise, scouring each sector in turn. I'm not only getting the diamonds but I'm also unlocking all safe houses and scouting all GPs along the way. I'm curious to see how many diamonds I end up with (if anybody already knows how many there are, please don't tell me - I'm keen to discover for myself). I spent the 10 rocks I got during the tutorial on the aforementioned weapons and 8 on the upgrades for them, but I'm saving all the rest as I continue to get my greedy mitts on them.
It's an interesting way to play, armed only with basic weaponry and an apparently bottomless canister of malaria pills.
I'll post a stat screen when I'm done :)
Incidentally, I discovered that it's possible to safely grab the diamond from the garage in the SE restricted area of Pala by the simple expedient of standing outside the window and reaching through it. The mercs don't react at all. It's simply a matter of standing in just the right spot and looking in just the right direction to make the hand appear.
sounds fun :) Regarding that one particular diamond, snatching it through the open window, that's what I usually did. But when I was in a danger-seeker mood I tried to fetch it from the inside and get out undetected -- very difficult and usually doomed to fail ;)
Good way to do it - I've never retrieved the diamond through the window - indicator of the intelligence of the mercs :-()
If I'm standing behind this sapling and I can't see them, they can't see me either :-()
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Okay, I'm back from the Great Diamond Tour! For the FC2 trivia buffs among us – well okay, for me – there are 205 diamonds in all the cases in Leboa. Some need to be spent during the tutorial in order to complete one of the tutorial missions, i.e. to buy your first weapons. So after spending 18 diamonds on initial weapons and upgrades, I finished the tour with 187. They rip your pockets around, let me tell you.
The toughest places to get them from under the circumstances were: Mokuba, Goka Falls and Private Property. I also had some trouble at the OGC – I'd intended to sneak in unobserved and get the case in the shed at the western edge of the plantation, but the sniper spotted me, opened up and alerted all the others. He received an exploding crossbow bolt for his effrontery, but I quickly found myself embroiled in a frantic game of Round and Round the Mulberry Bush centered on the shed as I fought off a swarm of cranky mercs. My gold AK-47 and my Makarov ultimately ran dry and I was reduced to snatching up rusty, jam-prone shotties (don't these lazy buggers ever clean their weapons?) to blast the last few miscreants point-blank while desperately trying to insert surrettes in my arm. I don't think I've ever been ganged up on so quickly or been in such a frenetic scrap. I was seriously depleted of everything except adrenaline when I finally gave the last merc a buckshot makeover.
Those golden AK-47s certainly are durable. I picked one up early and used it all the way around with no jamming, although it's since lost some of its sheen.
I collected what I thought was going to be the last case at the Airfield, only to realise it was case #111, when I know from past experience that there are 112 cases in Leboa. Missed one somewhere, dammit! This meant having to tour around sector by sector to find the one I missed, which turned out to be the one on the roof of the submerged car in the pond north of Cattle Xing.
I was going to post a stat screen, but something odd is happening with my screen captures. I can't seem to capture either the stat screen or any screen messages. This picture was taken when I picked up the last diamond, but the message telling me that I'd found 112 out of 221 cases doesn't appear in the picture.
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Trying to capture the stat screen merely results in a picture of whatever is in view at the time, with the stat screen apparently invisible. Using the PrtScr key or CTRL/F11 for IrfanView yields the same result. Odd.
Anyway, the Diamond Tour was great fun! Now I'm off to the weapon shop to see the dude's face when I dump armfuls of diamonds on his counter :-()
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Well done, fragger :-X
Strange thing about the screenies, maybe just a hiccup of the game or perhaps a vid card driver issue?
For the screen cap to w%&k (OK why can't I spell w o r k? whenever I spell w%&k it comes out weird) with HUD visible, you have to use print screen, then exit or ALT TAB out of FC2 and use a paint program to paste the screen cap into, then it will have the HUD stuff. The normal screen cap function ignores HUD stuff for some reason.
Nice idea though, I doubt I'd have the patience to fight that much all around the map with just a pistol and AK47!
Quote from: Dweller_Benthos on March 22, 2011, 01:07:31 PM
...OK why can't I spell w o r k? whenever I spell w%&k it comes out weird)
Sorry, bad language is not allowed
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w%&k is a four-letter word that describes a necessary evil of life. Global Moderator JRD brought this to our attention a long time ago as he was describing his heavy workload ^+-+
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:-D They should beep it out on prime-time TV as well, so the little ones don't pick it up :-()
Thanks for the screencap info, Dweller :-X It's occurred to me that I've never previously tried to do a cap with HUD things in it so I never noticed that quirk before. Cheers :)
It's a good thing we don't take ourselves too seriously ;)
:)
Cool experiment fragger. :-X
When you listed out the gear you were using for the run my thought was the gold AKs and I do see that you had grabbed one of them as well mentioned in your mission accomplished post.
I never tried the window grab for the garage diamond in Pala. ??? I usually park my AT on the road headed for Mike's on the far side of that empty building just North of the garage to get cover for a couple extra seconds of getaway time and rely on the slow reaction time of any merc I might encounter in the garage. If I can time my dash in for the snatch with the merc's taking a cut off a canteen that also helps but I don't waste too much time standing outside watching and waiting for that to happen.
You accounting of the run in at OGC was a panic. ^+-+
Quote from: PZ on March 22, 2011, 01:13:02 PM
Quote from: Dweller_Benthos on March 22, 2011, 01:07:31 PM
...OK why can't I spell w o r k? whenever I spell w%&k it comes out weird)
Sorry, bad language is not allowed
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w%&k is a four-letter word that describes a necessary evil of life. Global Moderator JRD brought this to our attention a long time ago as he was describing his heavy workload ^+-+
I agree with you there, by why is the word w o r k being mangled by the forums? Was that intentional as part of the joke? Because when I spell it without the spaces the "o" and "r" get replaced by "%" and "&".
e.g.: w@&k
I've seen a few other posts like this too...
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Yes, kind of a continuation of the joke in one sense. As part of forum control, in one of the administration sections we can censor "bad words" to have them come out as we want them to - for instance, any time the word "w o r k" is spelled out without the spaces, the system interprets it as foul language and automatically substitutes what you see.
What makes it funny for me is that I often forget myself and use the word in a different context. Also, when I see posts where the word is properly used, it still comes out funny ^+-+
However, if you guys think we should take it off the censored word list, we're good with that ;)
Of course, we could also leave it as it is, use different vocabulary to get our points across, and then see who falls into the trap. ???? ^+-+
How does that w@&k for everyone?
I kind of like it, and there's always ways to w@&k detour around it :-() But I'll go with the popular flow, whichever way that may be.
Quote from: mandru on March 22, 2011, 08:51:22 PM
When you listed out the gear you were using for the run my thought was the gold AKs and I do see that you had grabbed one of them as well mentioned in your mission accomplished post.
I didn't think about the gold AK until after I'd started the topic, then I had an "Of course!" moment. In fact I never really bothered with it before but it's quite a cool weapon. I've kind of grown attached to it now, we've been through a lot together :-() I may use other primaries for certain missions, but "Goldie" will still live in the crate during those :-D
In the tutorial the makarov is the cheapest weapon available at 4 diamonds as well as having the highest accuracy of any weapon available at game start but you've got to be right on top of your target.
Then I go after a gold AK and every diamond I can lay hands on. >:D
On the subject of the censoring of the "W" word. I was feeling nostalgic last night and went to my profile to look over the history of my posts and the threads that prompted them. I started with the oldest and spent a couple hours working towards current .
I had to laugh when on my second post here at OWG on 9-24-09 the filter had blocked the word "w%&k"! So it's not just our current posts but is universal. ^+-+
Quote from: mandru on March 23, 2011, 08:19:13 PM
...I had to laugh when on my second post here at OWG on 9-24-09 the filter had blocked the word "w%&k"! So it's not just our current posts but is universal. ^+-+
^+-+ That's the funny part, I can see posts where w%&k was being used in a completely benign sense, and the forum censor changed it.
... might be a challenge to detour around that cuss word, but I feel that our vocabulary is up to the challenge - could be a funny game to play - guess when someone is trying to avoid the word "
w%&k" ...ahem... occupation :-()
One of the benign usages of the "W" word is the same as in "I can't get it to function!". So there's always a workaround if it's absolutely necessary.
I'm of in the mindset that once we know that the word's going to be filtered the running gag has intrinsic humor value and at least by being "in the know" I've been reading through the occurrence of its being censored with no problem.
Still I did get a really good chuckle out of DB's consternation over a common word missing from the vocabulary. :-D
I must admit that I get a good laugh every time I see one of our membership use that word in all naivete.
Quote from: PZ on March 23, 2011, 08:29:40 PM
... might be a challenge to detour around that cuss word, but I feel that our vocabulary is up to the challenge - could be a funny game to play - guess when someone is trying to avoid the word "w%&k" ...ahem... occupation :-()
That's the way I look at it too 8)
Just back on the diamond subject again, it was cool to jump onto the PC at the Weapon Shop and be able to immediately buy every piece of equipment that's available at that point. I got the lot, plus the AT repair manual and the bolt-action sniper rifle with upgrades :-X I came out of the shop with 1 diamond to my name :-() For some reason I'd never realised that the M1903 sniper rifle can be bought prior to doing any convoy missions - I wish I'd known that in previous games :D
So far since the diamond hunt I've done a convoy mission, two side jobs for Quarbani and the mission to wreck the Special Forces' equipment at Mokuba plus the associated side op to strongarm the Belgian bloke at Private Property, and Goldie is still working without a hitch. I'm curious to see how long that gun will last - I've certainly put a lot of clips through it ????
I have to admit that the first few times I played through FC2 (before I ever learned about the gold AKs) the M1903 was the highest level weapon I'd purchase besides the dart rifle. It fit my play style and other than the slow reload time I liked its performance.
It wasn't until several times through the game that I started experimenting with the Dradonuv and AS-50 and became familiar with them but I'm thinking now it might be worth going back to that old set up for my next time through after I finish up this round. The up close run and gun moments of the game were admittedly a lot more exciting when confronted with the single shot limitations of the M1903. ^-^
There is an old AS50 in a safe house in northeast Leboa - if my failing memory serves me correctly, it is in this region (http://openworldgames.org/MapPages/LeboaRegionPages/NorthEast.htm).
While it doesn't serve all that long, it's long range scope is of great benefit at times.
Every time I start reading the comments about FC2, I become fired up to get back into Africa again. :-X
The M1903 is always one of the first purchases I made, to complete my weapon set of long range sniper, mid range fast fire rate and close up or specialized, which usually ends up being the grenade launcher (the single tube one, not the siz tube one, it's weird to use) the highest cailber fastest rate of fire machine gun, like the PKM and the highest power sniper. I rarely deviated from that weapon set. Towards the end of the game I'd buy all the rest just to buy them.
Oh yeah, and now that I'm "in" on the joke:
w%&k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And to get around the censor:
wörk wórk wõrk wòrk
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Kinda changes that old Monty Python song:
I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK
I sleep all night and I w%&k all day....
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w0rk
... oops... did I say that? ????
thanks for those additional inappropriate words trying to bypass "w o r k" >:D
The Diamond Tour Goes South
After I'd done everything in Leboa, including going back for the pleasure of plugging that double-dealing piece of pond-scum Kouassi, I headed south to meet up with Voorhees in Sefapane. Once in the intervening desert area however I decided to put Voorhees off for a while and see if I could pull off the Diamond Tour in the Southern District before doing anything else. This I did indeed do, and it yielded a couple of interesting results.
Firstly, I suffered no malaria attacks whatsoever – evidently you stay fever-free in Bowa until you've done your first mission there. Secondly, upon arriving in Mosate Selao for the first time I immediately received the predecessor message, so I could have completed those missions before meeting Voorhees had I been so inclined (which I wasn't). Thirdly, I went to the Marina and found that I could get inside Mike's, which I seem to recall you can't otherwise do straight after rescuing whoever was piloting the barge there (I may be wrong about that). Reuben was the only one in there, doing his writing-at-the-table thing, but it didn't occur to me to talk to him. I should have, it might have been interesting to hear what he had to say, if anything. Well actually, I can still check that out as I have a post-diamond hunt save without having yet met Voorhees. The lagoon at the Marina looked very big and empty without a barge in it, btw.
I was careful to save a lot since I was working without a net - no rescue buddy until the barge episode is over...
Anyway, it turns out that there are 410 diamonds in total in all the cases in the game. There are 205 in Leboa (including the 10 you get from your first case), 195 in Bowa and 10 in the intervening desert area. For what it's worth.
I initially went south with only 2 diamonds in my account, so with 207 rocks in my bedraggled pockets after collecting all the Bowa cases I went to the nearest Weapon Shop with the intention of scooping up all the available equipment, as I did in Leboa, but it was all locked away. Apparently a convoy missions or something needs to be completed before that stuff can be purchased. However I was able to clean out the remaining weapons, upgrades and repair manuals that I hadn't had enough money for in Leboa and still came out 86 diamonds ahead – enough for a good piss-up at Mike's, except the only drinking buddy there is Reuben. Who knows, he might loosen up once he's been dragged away from his flipping writing pad, but I get the feeling he'll turn out to be a maudlin drunk...
Cool experiment fragger. :) :-X
Interesting to know about the absence of malaria attacks.
Quote from: fragger on April 06, 2011, 06:14:37 AM
enough for a good piss-up at Mike's, except the only drinking buddy there is Reuben. Who knows, he might loosen up once he's been dragged away from his flipping writing pad, but I get the feeling he'll turn out to be a maudlin drunk...
The way Reuben goes on and on? I'd prefer not to bump into him when he's been well oiled, limbered up and with all filters removed. ???
Locked in a holding cell with a drunk Reuben and escape with your sanity could be a whole new series of missions. :lol
interesting read, fragger :) I too had that, no malaria, and there's a savegame in the downloads. Only difference, mine is befor you go to the prison/end game.
I picked up that download a while ago, it was the one I used to clobber the Jackal from outside the prison that time :-X
I've established a couple of things which may or may not be common knowledge. They were news to me, anyway.
You don't suffer any malaria attacks in Bowa until you've had the meeting in Sefapane with Voorhees/Greaves. After meeting Voorhees I had an attack whilst on my way to Port Selao to do the barge mission.
The new stuff in the Equipment category becomes available once the barge mission is over, i.e. after you've rescued whoever the skipper is at the Marina. A couple of weapons are also unlocked at that point without requiring a convoy mission – the Paratrooper, the Desert Eagle, and I think something else (I was too busy greedily snapping up all the equipment to take enough notice). And indeed, you can't gain entry to Mike's at that point in the game, though as I said earlier I could get in before the meeting with Voorhees.
There were a couple of novel developments during said barge skipper rescue mission. My usual modus operandi after warning the doctor in Port Selao of looming trouble and hightailing it out of town is to take the swamp boat from the north part of Selao, make my way across the lake, get off at the shore just west of the lagoon bridge, make my way down the Marina road until I reach the clifftop that overlooks the Marina area and open up on the baddies with a sniper rifle. On this occasion things went pear-shaped when a merc manned one of the grenade launchers mounted on the barge and started peppering my sniping spot with grenades. I've never had that happen before. The bugger nearly killed me, which really would have stunk because I had no rescue buddy at that point and I hadn't saved since the start of the barge mission. It was bad enough having to dig a piece of shrapnel out of my leg with a knife point while my pulse was thundering in my ears. Once I got down to the Marina after dispatching all the mercs, a wounded guy somewhere kept plugging me in the back with his pistol. I looked high and low for him but just couldn't find him, and he was wearing me down. After much exasperated searching I finally located him – completely hidden under the water at the shoreline between the dock and the weapon shop. What gave him away were the little splashes of his bullets leaving the water. For a wounded guy, he sure could hold his breath. I had to extract him from the water with a grenade.
Prior to all that, I had a blonde moment at the start of the barge mission. Whilst trying to climb onto the roof of the wheelhouse I managed to fall overboard and had to swim after the barge while uttering plaintive cries to the effect of "Hey, wait for me!" Fortunately that tub moves so slowly that I was able to catch up to it and climb back on board. I tried to climb onto the wheelhouse roof again and fell overboard again, and since by this time I was getting shot at by the mercs in the rocks on either side of the channel whilst trying to get back onto the barge my cries were less plaintive and somewhat bluer. Then, because I'd stuffed up and delayed so long in clearing the way, I nearly got creamed by a mortar round and had to try and repair the barge's motor while getting hammered by no less than four circling swamp boats. Not my most shining hour... I least I managed to stay dry for the rest of the cruise. I did leave this curious tableau in my wake, though:
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Excellent story, fragger; I too am still enjoying FC2 quite a bit. :-X
Nice story mate, but I don´t remember the barge mission being that frozen though ????
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I think you inserted the wrong picture :-()
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I've fallen off the barge trying to make that jump to the roof and know how frustrating just one dip in the drink is. I always make a save as I'm leaving the cabin after speaking with the pilot at the mission start so I'd have to restart it if I ever managed to fall in a second time. ;)
I've also encountered that underwater merc several times. There either a gap in the boundary for where the waterline actually is not reflected by the graphics or maybe because if he could stand up the water's not deep enough to drown him. Either way the peck, peck, peck of him taking potshots at you is really annoying when you don't know where it's coming from.
Fortunately his being merely injured instead of dead doesn't interfere with the completion of the barge mission because that would jump the frustration level of him being in that hiding spot would go up another whole level.
I'll need to go to that spot next time I'm in the game and crouch to see if I can get below water level but not encounter the running out of air graphics.
I keep encountering things I need to check out in FC2. :-D
@deadman, that picture was taken from the back of the barge while it was about to pull into Port Selao. It was wet and foggy at the time, maybe that's what makes it look frozen :)
I better mention this to the admins - for some reason I can't see the preceding page or two in this topic when I'm in normal browsing mode, but they do appear in the topic summary when I have the editor active. Just FYI. Maybe it's something odd happening at my end, it wouldn't be the first time...
EDIT: The page list for the topic shows 3 pages, but I know there's at least one more.
Quote from: fragger on April 09, 2011, 04:47:24 PM
@deadman, that picture was taken from the back of the barge while it was about to pull into Port Selao. It was wet and foggy at the time, maybe that's what makes it look frozen :)
I better mention this to the admins - for some reason I can't see the preceding page or two in this topic when I'm in normal browsing mode, but they do appear in the topic summary when I have the editor active. Just FYI. Maybe it's something odd happening at my end, it wouldn't be the first time...
EDIT: The page list for the topic shows 3 pages, but I know there's at least one more.
Actually I´m seeing a BFBC2 picture ???? and my page count for this topic shows that it´s only one page long ????
So you're not seeing a couple of mercs standing on an upturned swamp boat, deadman? ????
I was wondering why you were describing the scene as looking frozen - makes sense if you're seeing a different pic altogether ;)
Quote from: fragger on April 10, 2011, 06:11:47 AM
So you're not seeing a couple of mercs standing on an upturned swamp boat, deadman? ????
I was wondering why you were describing the scene as looking frozen - makes sense if you're seeing a different pic altogether ;)
Nope I see a picture from the beginning of BFBC2, Cold war I believe.
Edit: I clicked on the image and came to your gallery, I see the same picture (the bfbc2 one) but on top I can see the pic you mentioned as a thumbnail with the same name as the bfbc2 pic. ??? Makes me wonder if that crash didn´t mess things up a lot more stuff than PZ thought. :-\\
That doesn't sound good :-\\ I just went to my gallery and it seemed OK from my end. I'm not seeing that BFBC2 picture there. But I can't see the page in this topic where I posted the picture, although I could on the day when I posted it.
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Guys, I encounter the same error with random pics and topics and posts. Some "new" posts are inaccessible, some pics either have the wrong thumbnail or the wrong main picture, at least they don't match. I too see a snowy landscape that is definitely not FC2. The tumbnail in the gallery is showing a scope view that is familiar, FC2, but I can't get to see the big picture (pun intended) :-D As to the page count, that may vary depending on your forum look and layout settings, I have mine set to show 50 posts per page while the default is I believe 5 or so, which explains why even if everything was OK we'd still get different page counts. Now that you haven't changed a thing yet still feel something is wrong with the page count is what I have encountered: the post count doesn't match. Like, if there are one old and one new posts, I only see the one old post while "show new posts" displays a list with that topic. Which means, I can't access the new post, hence the topic remains on my "new posts" list unless I mark "all as read" which obviously marks the one new post as read even if I can't read it. Or, I post something and rather than being sent to the latest (my own) post, I keep getting sent back to some post that is weeks old (in the same topic).
So yes.. Houston, we have a problem.
PZ and I have already talked about the issue, I am glad that I'm not the only one experiencing this stuff but that doesn't help much. My educated guess (hehe) was that some of us, including me, may be connected to the net via some ISP that uses some kind of web cache which keeps delivering data from the cache rather than from this site. But it is strange that this problem continues to exist, a cache should eventually be refreshed or cleared. So my guess is.. something is rather off :-D
We're on it, peeps :) Hopefully we get things sorted out. :-X
Thanks muchly Art :) I know there's been issues of late and that you and PZ have been diligent in trying to get to the bottom of them. But I also believe that you guys would prefer for us to speak up when we feel something's amiss, even if it's an issue that you're already well aware of, rather than keep quiet about it. Because one day it just might be something you're unaware of, or someone might happen to mention something that sheds a bit of light ;D
Geez, I hope I didn't come across as griping in my last few posts... that's the last thing I would want you guys to think I was doing :-D
No worries fragger - we appreciate any information anyone can offer. Evidently some of the posts are corrupt with regards to internal pointers, and any of these will need to be manually edited in the sql db.
So, the best thing to do is to post the exact message url so we can see what is occurring.
Another thing to do is to create new topics so that we ensure that the pointers are correct.
When I posted about knowing the frustration of falling off the barge I could see the picture of the two mercs standing on the upside down boat looking miserable in the the rain and fog.
Now the post that had that picture is missing when I look for it.
Quote from: fragger on April 10, 2011, 06:11:47 AM
So you're not seeing a couple of mercs standing on an upturned swamp boat, deadman? ????
I was wondering why you were describing the scene as looking frozen - makes sense if you're seeing a different pic altogether ;)
Strange - I see a couple of mercs standing on the hull of an upturned boat, as it should be. Not sure what the problem might be for some of you guys - might be resources that are still cached on your computers or via your Internet provider. Hopefully things will be updated as time progresses.
We just tried a repair. When I checked this post, I could see the post with fragger's pic but it was the ice/winter thing (wrong pic). I then closed all my tabs and then the browser.
On firing up my browser (FireFox) I hit CTRL+F5 (flush cache, reload) and yessssss... I still see the post and this time the correct pic :-X
[admin]Looks good.. fingers crossed, knocking on wood, we're probably all good again :) The issues I had encountered are all fixed. Please let us know if you still encounter something that indicates the forum isn't working properly. Cheers :)[/admin]
Quote from: Art Blade on April 11, 2011, 08:56:42 AM
We just tried a repair. When I checked this post, I could see the post with fragger's pic but it was the ice/winter thing (wrong pic). I then closed all my tabs and then the browser.
On firing up my browser (FireFox) I hit CTRL+F5 (flush cache, reload) and yessssss... I still see the post and this time the correct pic :-X
That didn´t w@&k for me Art, even though I did all the flushing and stuff like you did :'( I´,m still seeing the wrong pic.
Just to let you guys know, I can now see all the pages in the topic again, got the correct page count and my picture's as it should be :-X
Quote from: deadman1 on April 11, 2011, 10:32:28 AM
That didn´t w%&k for me Art, even though I did all the flushing and stuff like you did :'( I´,m still seeing the wrong pic.
There is one more thing to try - should be rebuilt within an hour (unless something else goes wrong) :-()
try it now deadman - if you still see the old photo, move your cursor into the image but don't click it. Then check the url you see in the status bar, there should be a 4-digit number at the end and look like this:
sa=media;in=3182
The number you should see is 3182, which is the ID for the proper picture. Should you not see this, let me know what number you do see.
interesting.. when I look at the pic in the post it is the right one (other than before the "repairs"). Now when I click that pic in the post, I get to see the winter pic. ???
When I click details (go to gallery) I see the correct thumbnail on top and the correct preview (bigger, below) but when I click that bigger preview, I get to see a full sized winter pic again. The ID is always the same (3182)
Quote from: PZ on April 11, 2011, 11:33:18 AM
try it now deadman - if you still see the old photo, move your cursor into the image but don't click it. Then check the url you see in the status bar, there should be a 4-digit number at the end and look like this:
sa=media;in=3182
The number you should see is 3182, which is the ID for the proper picture. Should you not see this, let me know what number you do see.
No change at all and I do see the number 3182 in the statusbar. Unlike Art I only see the winterpic no matter what I do, but I see the correct thumbnail in the gallery. This is really strange ????
What happens when you right-click the image and open it in a new tab? ????
when I do that with the pic in fragger's post, the new tab shows the winter pic and the URL is
http://openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=3182 (http://openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=3182)
:-\\ ????
The really funny thing is that I have no idea what winter pic you guys are seeing ??? From the beginning I have only seen the two mercs standing on the upside down hull. ????
There is one last thing we can try if you guys still keep seeing the old image (I have no idea why, because the pointers and file are proper), but it means shutting down the forum for a few hours ????
Just for fun I went back to fragger's post and checked the pic (FC2 as preview, winter pic when clicking on it, again the same thing). It occurred to me to do CTRL-F5 again with that pic in front of me (the post) and then cicked it again.. now the pic is correct, in every aspect and no matter what I do, I see the correct pic.
Guys, please try that too.. if you're using FireFox, that is, hit CTRL+F5 while looking at that post. Just in case, you may want to close all tabs and the last tab that will stay open shouldn't be OWG. then hit CTRL+F5 and close FF. Restart FF, and now load OWG, check the post again and maybe do the CTRL+F5 again. Somehow FF likes to keep its cache, so that is why you should do everything to flush/clear it.
PZ, I'll try to find the "original" winter pic.. I have a feeling it was battlefield, brb :)
couldn't find it. I think it was nexor or mmosu who uploaded it but their items don't show it. So my guess is that it was a recent pic before the forum crashed, and the corresponding posts and links are gone but the pic is still there physically but without a valid entry in any folder. It was definitely a landscape (in the mountains) and a weapon with a scope, probably assault rifle, of a game I never played. Could have been ArmAII (which I don't think) but in a way it looked more like a different modern warfare game.
Anyone remembers that pic? Basically bottom right a scoped weapon and the landscape as if looking at a snowy mountain with a few trees. Nothing else in particular.
One of the reasons Firefox is so fast is it's desire to retain cached content. For instance, I installed a favicon.ico into the root of OWG so that all OWG tabs show up with the proper favicon in FF - it took days for it to finally show up in my browser. I'm sure the reverse is also true - using old content for a long time before updating certain changed objects. The only way to make it happen right now is a complete cache clearance.
Quote from: Art Blade on April 11, 2011, 05:48:22 PMcouldn't find it. I think it was nexor
Quote from: Art Blade on April 11, 2011, 05:33:03 PMPZ, I'll try to find the "original" winter pic.. I have a feeling it was battlefield, brb :)
It was indeed nexor and BattleField and it did vanish ;D He mentioned it in the shoutbox:
QuoteThat would be me Art, a screenshot from BFBC2. At least I think it's the one I posted, it should have been in BFBC 2's forum but seems to have vanished. I'll post it again in a moment. Done, in BFBC2 game ratings forum
And here is the pic:
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That definitely doesn't look like the barge mission :-D
Nice pic though, I don't think I saw that one the first time around :-X
What ever you guys did it brought back more than the barge mission screen shot. The entire "Goatling roast with beans" conversation Art initiated on the "Comfort food" thread has also returned. I'm betting other observed lost posts may have also once again risen from crypt. They're alive! >:D :-X
Quote from: mandru on April 15, 2011, 09:03:50 PM
...The entire "Goatling roast with beans" conversation Art initiated on the "Comfort food" thread has also returned...
^+-+ still my favorite funny post!
LOL I smell a title change coming up ^+-+
^+-+ 8-X
go ahead :-D
OK, the sequence of posts is:
Quote from: PZ on April 15, 2011, 09:47:05 PM
Quote from: mandru on April 15, 2011, 09:03:50 PM
...The entire "Goatling roast with beans" conversation Art initiated on the "Comfort food" thread has also returned...
^+-+ still my favorite funny post!
Quote from: Art Blade on April 16, 2011, 08:41:28 AM
LOL I smell a title change coming up ^+-+
*yellow highlight is my edit ;D*
Quote from: mandru on April 16, 2011, 12:58:20 PM
^+-+ 8-X
Quote from: Art Blade on April 16, 2011, 01:02:07 PM
go ahead :-D
Bringing me to this post and what I wasn't going to say. ;)
Spoiler
Does it smell like burning beans? ^+-+
^+-+ :-X ^+-+
I do notice a change of my title. Hehe, good one, mandru :-() :-X
^+-+ :-X
Excellent, mandru! ^+-+
I have yet another new title ^+-+
^+-+ :-X