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Title: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: Art Blade on August 01, 2010, 04:40:02 PM
if you haven't touched it for a long time then maybe you'll remember how good this game is when you check out those pics. Don't you want to immediately  start playing again??

If you're new to the game, then you'll understand why we like it so much. To us oldsters who have played it for a year or more, those pics will cause some nice flashbacks  ;D

Enjoy.

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Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: fragger on August 01, 2010, 04:59:01 PM
Terrific collection of pics there, Art :-X FC2 would have to be one of the best-looking FPS games to ever come along.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: Art Blade on August 01, 2010, 05:00:03 PM
cheers, mate  :)
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: mandru on August 01, 2010, 05:29:11 PM
Damn!  Those pics even got me re-excited about the game.  It's the only one I've loaded on my comp and I've been playing it all along.

I'm a gonna have to wrap up this round of FC2 I'm playing and get right back in there. ;)
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: Art Blade on August 01, 2010, 05:51:21 PM
Thanks, mandru ;D

You know, I had those pictures prepared for some time now and never found the right moment to share them. With our renovation of OWG and the return of one of the earliest members, spearhead_22 who states that he's playing FC2 again, and now the new gallery software AEVA, and me coincidentally too having returned to FC2, all this made me start this topic.

I'm glad if you like it :)
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: mmosu on August 29, 2010, 05:56:38 AM
nice series Art  :-X
It really showcases the variety of locales and environments that exist in the game world.  Maybe I should spend some time in Africa before the next Borderlands DLC comes out . . .
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: mandru on August 29, 2010, 06:26:52 AM
Art does have a fine eye for composition.  It makes me wonder if he's a budding Ansel Adams in RL and needs to be out hiking the alps or some exotic locale with a medium format camera documenting seasonal changes.   :)
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: Art Blade on August 29, 2010, 01:40:39 PM
Thanks, guys :)

In real life I don't carry a camera with me any more (yes, I used to photograph). Instead, I remember everything and then tell people about what I saw or experienced, describing details. They'll form a picture of their own in their minds. But in videogames.. hell, I can't count those ten thousands of screenies on my rigs  ;D For FarCry2 alone I shot around 20,000 screenies during like 1.5 years  ;D

However, here is another old series (lol, image IDs 176 and so on, now we're nearly at 3,000) and I add one more old pic which I like. Enjoy :)

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Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: spaceboy on August 29, 2010, 02:33:44 PM
nice shots.  I do remember fondly the beautiful and hostile world of FC2.  I may just visit for a spell.  In my current lull of new games I've been revisiting some older ones, so that fits right in.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: mmosu on August 29, 2010, 02:38:43 PM
I really like that first one.  Unbelievable really, that you can see something like this in a video game, especially when you consider where the state of that art was a mere two and a half decades ago. 
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: fragger on August 30, 2010, 04:26:47 PM
Very true, mmosu. Graphics in FPS games have come a long way from mere pixelly patterns stuck on walls!
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: Art Blade on August 30, 2010, 05:27:38 PM
And gamplay has slightly improved since, too  ;D

Back in the days of my C64 I used to dream of a game where I'd be able to walk, drive and enter buildings. Now they even added fly and swim. Basically, everything is possible today, only it still looks like a pc game. Now I'm dreaming of a true 3D virtual reality. You know, somehow it's not really cool to play with a mouse and a keyboard, looking at a monitor..  ;)
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: PZ on August 30, 2010, 06:12:58 PM
I wonder if any of our members have tried out the #D capabilities of some of the video cards.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: spaceboy on August 30, 2010, 07:31:58 PM
I haven't been completely sold on the idea of 3D by any means, but I can't say I'm not intrigued.  Motorstorm Apocolypse and Killzone 3 are to have 3D capabilities and frankly I'm quite curious about what pricing would be on a 3D capable LED TV next year.  Probably won't happen but still...   I'd like to see a demo of one of these games in 3D.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: PZ on August 30, 2010, 07:39:33 PM
I too would like to see a demo - my video card is 3D capable, and Far Cry 2 is listed as one of the 3D games, but you evidently need other hardware parts, and I've been reluctant to invest.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: mmosu on August 30, 2010, 08:42:52 PM
I hadn't heard that about Killzone 3 being in 3D - could be extremely interesting or extremely lame depending on how they do it (as in, don't do a bunch of gimmicky 3D movie stuff).  Art's comment about "the old days" got me thinking about Doom and Wolfenstien 3D- everybody remember how the dead bodies would rotate with you as you walked around them  ;D  Again, what a long way we've come - Wolfenstien 3D to actual 3D!
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: PZ on August 30, 2010, 09:09:36 PM
Indeed - I worry about the "gimmicky" aspect of it though - I've seen  a "3D" video with glasses that really only showed 2 layers rather than true 3D.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: spaceboy on August 30, 2010, 09:16:47 PM
about a year ago I saw demo of 3D TV and the depth almost seemed like multiple thin layers of images just deeper into the set.  Does that make sense?  If I have to forego great graphics to have 3D I don't want it  - I don't have trouble judging depth in games too much with current graphics. 

mmosu - yep KZ3 will have 3D and like I said - I am definitely curious ...
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: PZ on August 30, 2010, 09:21:37 PM
Only time will tell, I guess.  I watched the new Samsum 3D LED TV at the store the other day, and with a true 3D movie it was very impressive.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: mandru on August 30, 2010, 10:43:45 PM
I've often wondered why someone hasn't created a synced pair of video clips framed side by side in a stereo photographic pair so that using the cross eyed viewing method the viewer would be able to see a 3D video.

Here's an example of a still stereo photographic pair of a satellite view of an erosion plane in Patagonia with viewing instructions.

http://veimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/305/PIA02760_md.jpg (http://veimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/305/PIA02760_md.jpg)

Once your eyes adjust you can wander around inside the image and you can feel it as your eyes refocus for different depth values.  True for a moving video the producers would have to take it pretty easy on the viewer to keep their eyes from bleeding and crashing them into blinding headaches but I always thought there was some potential in it for giving better detailed information than a simple flat image.



Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: spaceboy on August 31, 2010, 06:45:59 AM
wow that's totally neat mandru - at first I thought I couldn't do it, but once I released the tension in my eyes it all came together beautifully - the depth is amazing!

I do agree some tweaking would have to be done so your eyes don't water and hurt (or "stay that way" as we've all been warned) - but potential seems there somewhere to divert the images or something so you don't have to actually cross your eyes.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: mandru on August 31, 2010, 07:26:53 AM
The old stereo image viewers like the classic View-Master didn't require crossed eye viewing (used in Mad Max Beyond the Thunderdome where the lost children filled Gibson in on who they thought he was and the pictures of a history and world he was there to return them to).

With the image I posted above if I use a straight piece of stiff card stock long enough to block the left image from the right eye and vice versa and view looking straight on then there is actually less strain on the eyes but because I have long practiced using the cross eye method I can drop into it with little or no effort and then relax into the feel of it once I've found the overlap.

At least for me in the absence of a mechanism or a piece of card stock the method described with the photo is easiest to achieve.

When the Magic Eye stereograms were very popular in the 90's a female supervisor on a job I was working at that time wore a dress in a fabric that had a very busy pattern with a repeat grid of 1 and 1/2 inches that looked very much like one of the patterns used in the Magic Eye images.

Without thinking of the larger meaning I innocently asked during a training meeting "If I stare at your dress cross eyed will I see the 3D image?" and was promptly slapped by half of the women in the call center.  The other half were rolling on the floor laughing.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: PZ on August 31, 2010, 07:51:27 AM
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Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: mandru on August 31, 2010, 07:53:30 AM
I referred to a 3D vid method a couple posts back and a useful immediate application that comes to mind is every robot that has a remote operator that I'm aware of has a single camera and sends a flat image back to the person controlling it.

How much more effective would a robot that is intended to disarm bombs be if instead of a flat image there were two cameras, properly spaced, sending right eye/left eye information to a headset worn by the operator so he can actually see what he's working on ("which wire is closer?") as if it was right in front of him in 3D?

Our eyes interpret R/L parallax information instinctively and I can't help but believe two properly spaced cameras with a way to view them would give us the ability to go many places human eyes usually would never be able to go.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: mmosu on August 31, 2010, 09:15:49 AM
They're actually doing that here in our university hospital with surgical robots mandru.  The robot is controlled remotely by a surgeon sitting across the room.  The advantage to doing it with a robot is a smaller surgical field - the robot has tiny hands and wrists so it can accomplish the procedure through a much smaller set of incisions.  Anyway, the robots "eyes" are tiny binocular cameras that transmit to two separate viewing screens that are set appart based on the distance between the surgeon's eyes.  All of this translates to accurate depth of field for the surgeon, like their eyes are inside the patient's body.  It's really cool stuff.  The hope is that someday this technology can be used to routinely do surgeries on patients in other parts of the world who don't have access to surgical specialists or who can't travel to one.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: Art Blade on August 31, 2010, 09:17:11 AM
Mandru, hilarious remark about the 3D dress  ^+-+

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What I meant when I said I dreamt of virtual 3D was something that doesn't need to trick the eye. I was thinking neuro-transmitter, directly manipulating parts of the brain responsible for audio/visual/haptical/etc. The five senses we have need input devices such as eye, ear, nose, fingertips (skin) and tongue and then convert the information into electrical and chemical information which is then being processed by our brain. I think of something that transmits the data straight into the brain (causing an effect as if you were dreaming, when you are using all senses and think you're talking and moving but really don't flex a muscle so you won't look like a zombie and smash everything around your bed and talking gibberish stuff freaking out everyone watching you, hehe)

Stuff like in movies such as Matrix (people think they live in a city but they're only dreaming) or The 13th Floor (people of a city around 1930 who are a simulation, people of today created it and play with it.. while they too are part of a simulation..) or Tron (digitised people fight inside a computer) or Strange Days (slap on a hat and "watch" with all your senses what someone else had recorded with all his senses) or The Lawnmower Man (spending one's life inside the computer playing god, confusing virtual reality with reality).

That kind of thing. Only as a "vid" game.  :)
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: PZ on August 31, 2010, 10:22:37 AM
Total Recall!  :-()
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: Art Blade on August 31, 2010, 11:00:33 AM
haha, that too  ;D :-X

Funny, just read a couple of articles on consumer 3D in my fave tech/computer mag. Basically what I/they keep saying (summarising their previous articles) is: Wait some more, still not really worth it, too many bugs and issues, because still too young a tech branch. That regards TVs, glasses, blue-ray players and console games.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: mandru on August 31, 2010, 11:20:21 AM
I get you Art.

Christopher Walken and Natalie Wood (I believe her last before her death) did a movie called Brainstorm (1983) about a researcher that a device ("the hat" that's what the movie called it) that could read brainwaves and override a viewer's awareness upon playback allowing them to be in the skin of the person who made the recording.

It was all fun and games until one of the lead researchers on the project had a heart attack and being unable to call for help donned the hat and recorded her death experience and the creator of the technology was fired and locked out of his laboratories for attempting to replay it and accidentally finding out that the company footing the bill was going behind his back and using his machine for torture and interrogation for the military.

Until we have that kind of technology our natural senses are the best neurotransmitters that we have to w@&k with.  I'm not sure that it would really be considered tricking the eye if the eyes are actually seeing something.

I used to have hairy arguments with my first wife over my love of synthesizers in music.  Her opposing position was that she only liked "real sounds", pointing out that anything that has been amplified or recorded is no longer by her definition a real sound didn't help.

Is a phone conversation any less real than a face to face conversation?  I would venture to guess only slightly, as there is some information lost by the lack of eye contact and the reading of body language.  I know that more senses that can be tied into a virtual experience make the experience more real and as mentioned by mmosu the robot performing surgery across the room can also be halfway around the world if the best surgeon for the job can't be there.

For twenty years I've had the concept for a fighter jet that would remove the physical limitations of the pilot and allow designers to build to the stress limitations of the selected materials instead.  How much wasted weight is there involved in an aircraft devoted to keeping a human alive?

I've just never been able to connect with the right eyes and ears to pass that information along through proper channels.  8-X



As for waiting a bit on the new 3D TVs, that's probably a wise choice.  Most of the blue ray players to accompany the TVs are not cross-brand compatible and almost none of the viewing glasses w@&k outside of their brand.  Even the system demo discs are useless between manufacturer's products.  Smarter to let them hash it out as in the Beta/VHS wars before jumping in.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: PZ on August 31, 2010, 11:48:36 AM
Quote from: mandru on August 31, 2010, 11:20:21 AM
...Smarter to let them hash it out as in the Beta/VHS wars before jumping in.
As a former Super Beta owner, I can vouch for that  :-X
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: Art Blade on August 31, 2010, 01:56:33 PM
I get you, mandru.

Just to rephrase "tricking eyes" -- I'd much rather not wear specs that blind one's eyes in turn or use specs that only w@&k in combination with a screen and all that. Just no stupid hardware. I mean, probably everyone of us had at least a toy pistol in his hand once and knows what it is and how to aim it and to pull the trigger. I think it's quite a bit to compare that with tossing your mouse around or squeezing your controller's buttons. I'd just like to do all that as you'd do it in real life (if you were able to, trained, etc) -- simply "think" my way around inside a created environment and virtually interact with it as simple as you can dream weird stuff at night or as simple as you can remember (please no jokes about bad memory now ;D ) for example your favourite holiday experience. In other words: Effortlessly using the game's environment and gimmicks and stuff, rather than dealing with stuff like specs or keyboards.

There are experiments going on where handicapped people can control a cursor with their thoughts. Looks a bit clumsy and the tech stuff looks far from elegant, but it already works: reading out the brain from the outside, if only in very limited ways (yet). Or check brain activity with magnetic resonance imaging. It is only logical that if we can read out something we're going to try to write something into it.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: eor123 on August 31, 2010, 10:05:41 PM
I remember "Brainstorm."  One researcher looped the tape of someone having an orgasm and took the device home with him.

They found him twitching and drooling in his bathrobe, eyes rolled back in his head -- still wearing the device.

That fellow is the Godfather and role model of video gamers, IMO.

8)


Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: mandru on September 01, 2010, 12:40:14 AM
Yeah  eor123, some aspects of video gaming do tickle the pleasure center alright but in the movie he didn't go through withdrawals when it was taken away from him the way I do when we have a power outage or something keeps me away from my computer for too long .   ;D

Art, I'd mentioned in the introduction thread that I'm a heavy sci-fi fan and frustrated want to be writer with a chest full or storyline premises.  One idea that I've had filed away for a long time (from before cellphones) is centered around a chip that is surgically tied into the brain stem that enhances a person's ability to examine numbers, store details from situations encountered but I'd also allowed for multilevel interpersonal communication without the need for spoken word.  Think selective telepathy in a society where personal privacy is strictly enforced by law.

A simplified situation (to save OWG forum space) I had in mind from my storyline was something that contained a passage like this:

John is working on a  car's carburetor and unable to make it w@&k.  Realizing he is in over his head on both the head knowledge and the manual dexterity to accomplish the job he decides to get help. initiating action he thinks [a unique private pet name for his chip] alerting it that it is being accessed to perform a function.  It responds {Ready}  [Reach Roy]  {Connecting}

At this point Roy's chip announces {John calling, standing by}  Roy can accept, delay, deny the call or even place a ban on all future attempts of contact depending upon Roy's preferences.  Since John is a good friend and Roy currently has available time he responds to his chip [Yes]

John explains the trouble he is having and Roy agrees to take a look at it so John tells his chip [Send optical]

Roy's chip announces {Current connection - incoming optical}  [Accept] and Roy watches through John's eyes as he demonstrates the problem he is having.

"John, I think I see the problem.  Give me your hands a second and we'll get this straightened out."

"I really appreciate your help on this."  John instructs his chip to request an external manual assist with tactile information which is relayed to Roy's chip.

{Current connection - Incoming request for a manual assist with tactile information}  [Accept]  "OK, let's see what we can do here."

Very quickly Roy repairs the problem, John can see and feel what his hands are doing and though he can not interfere with their movement he is comfortable in the knowledge that the mere thought "[disconnect]" would return his hands to him.  Job done, thanks are given and received and then both of them disconnect.



In a world with the technology as I've described a lost child would always be able to call for help and the closest certified official could respond and adult connections would have greater connective abilities but the master control over any connection would have to be in the hands of the individual.

Imagine the nightmares if advertisers could get in and put product placements in your dreams.  :o
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: Art Blade on September 01, 2010, 01:00:47 AM
Interesting idea there, mandru :) I can see the potential (like, have D_B steer PZ to get all diamonds in FC2  :-D ) and as always: where there's light, there's shadow. I can see that technology capable of controlling a human, especially when implanted, will be the prime target for malign minds. As would prevention be the prime goal for the benign minds.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: spaceboy on September 01, 2010, 06:17:54 AM
Cool idea mandru - perhaps someone wouldn't mind dialing in to me and doing my w@&k for me today...anyone?...anyone?  bah - meanies!
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: PZ on September 01, 2010, 07:31:03 AM
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Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: JRD on September 01, 2010, 07:37:49 AM
These are cool ideas indeed mandru.. and Aldous Huxley would lift his left eyebrow to that!  :-D :-D :-D

I imagine myself thinking "should I buy this new expensive game or n... $CASH$:PURCHSED... should I have another beer or n... $CASH$:ORDERED"... and so on... my mind plays tricks on me all the time  ::)

lol@spaceboy... the only downside is that my body would have be there watching all along  :-( and by the way

Quote from: spaceboy on September 01, 2010, 06:17:54 AM
Cool idea mandru - perhaps someone wouldn't mind dialing in to me and doing my w@&k for me today...anyone?...anyone?  bah - meanies!
[gmod]Watch your language[/gmod]

Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: PZ on September 01, 2010, 07:41:36 AM
hahaha, good catch, JRD - I missed that bad language!  ^+-+
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: spaceboy on September 01, 2010, 07:53:20 AM
lol JRD - I'm sorry.  Don't ban me....please.  8-X

Also I too would have a hard time controlling my outgoing thoughts... if every thought I had would get sent to the object of my thought I might not have to worry about that bad language word anymore cause I'd be out of it.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: mandru on September 01, 2010, 10:51:48 AM
 ;D @ spaceboy's slip but I see he's got the concept.  A bored laborer could zone out and allow a willing paraplegic or someone otherwise unable to engage in gainful employment to fill in for that activity and then split a paycheck with them.  Remote rental telepresence or basically a body for hire.

The concept as I'd posted it was just a sketch of a larger idea.  In my story premise a user would of course have established filters with their chip allowing control over outbound content during interaction with others depending on established trust levels with the receiver on the other end of the contact.  A receiver could also engage their chip's filter to screen "out of bounds" content from a less than trusted sender's contact.

It does occur to me with proper chip training, the incidental usage of that banned "w" word would easily be screened out of usage here at OWG.   ;)
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: spaceboy on September 01, 2010, 11:55:58 AM
Quote from: mandru on September 01, 2010, 10:51:48 AM
  Remote rental telepresence or basically a body for hire.

hmm, you can remotely take control of someone and see and feel what you direct them to do?  So I'm thinking a nice looking couple could hire themselves out if you know what I mean.  "Remote Rental Telepresence - getting ugly people together in a beautiful way".  And safe too!

Actually now that I think of it this idea (remote control) was basically the concept in the movie Gamer.  Horrible movie for the most part, but the premise was good.  I think you'd do a better job at the script mandru.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: Art Blade on September 01, 2010, 12:41:14 PM
There was a film called Xchange (with Stephen Baldwin, not so good film but cool ideas) where they did something like that: instead of travelling, they'd either use a rental body (expires after a few days) or switch bodies with other persons. The best scene was one fit-looking guy sitting behind a huge desk in an office, on the phone, looking at a fat guy on a bicycle (one of those without wheels you find in gyms), explaining something along the lines of: "That's perfect, the Xchange program. I switched bodies with my fitness trainer. He's working my body out right now, shall he do the hard w@&k, while I can go on with my business."  ^+-+
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: spaceboy on September 01, 2010, 12:56:25 PM
Not a bad use for the xchange program I think.  Gamer had this whole scenario where some people "rented" the use of their bodies for others to use them in a "Sims" type game - with nastiness occurring of course as well as an action shooter game where inmates were controlled by gamers in an FPS game trying to escape.  Gerard Butler no less!

Oh and also I recall a Bruce Willis movie where you controlled your own personal avatar but I don't recall much else about it.

Plus there was a little movie about controlling some blue race of people last year.  ;)

Get that script going mandru so far only James Cameron has taken the idea to commercial success - you could be next!
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: JRD on September 01, 2010, 01:16:30 PM
No way... I think mandru's idea is far more elaborated than what James Cameron did, which was basically Blue Pocahontas. The get-into-their-avatars thing was a silly excuse to have humans blending with those aliens.

mandru's concept, as I stated before, is more towards an Aldous Huxley or Asimov's book than to a mindless blockbuster!

Keep it up mandru and let us know when are you publishing your stories!  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: spaceboy on September 01, 2010, 01:22:29 PM
Oh I only said it was a commercial success, not a critical one in my book.  I thought it was silly they told them they were humans controlling these bodies - I thought the idea was supposed to be they didn't know

I believe mandru's idea would lead to a more developed story, - I'm sure he wouldn't mind making a few hundred million on it though  :-()
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: JRD on September 01, 2010, 01:31:27 PM
I know space, I was just giving my two cents on mandru's idea!  ;)

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: mandru on September 01, 2010, 04:20:38 PM
There's an old wives tale about not washing a child's palms for the first year of their lives or they would never be rich.  Being a clean freak I'm pretty sure my mom thoroughly washed my hands every five minutes during that time period.  :'(

My mother never even let me touch a floor until I was 18 months old where she slipped up and left me with an aunt who had seven kids for just two hours and when mom got back I'd skipped learning to walk and had jumped straight to running.  Probably in self defense to escape the clutches of the previously mentioned seven cousins.

Sure I wouldn't mind having a few mill go through my hands...  Oh wait it probably already has.  I just couldn't get a good grip on it.    ^+-+

I have actually written a syrupy sweet book aimed at 6 to 12 year old girls and their mothers (with the actual target being the mothers and encouraging them to involve their daughters in working on arts and crafts together) but I've run into a wall on the necessary steps of first finding a good illustrator willing to w@&k for an eventual percentage and then getting a publisher to take it on.  I'm aware of the On Demand and self publishing routes available but finding one that doesn't just steal you w@&k is another whole kettle of fish.  :-\\

Sorry for dragging this thread so far off topic.  Maybe if PZ or Art want to, one of them can find a good edit point, split my divergence off and get it back on track.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: Art Blade on September 01, 2010, 04:59:08 PM
No no no.

I already decided to leave it here and not to split it off.  :)

Why?

I want some of the guests to discover what we're really like.. a) here's more than FC2 and b) we like to go off topic and that is about just as interesting as the games we have here.

So this time I'll let you guys go wild, uncensored, unpunished and.. uncut  ;D
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: mandru on September 01, 2010, 07:06:29 PM
 ;D :-X
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: spaceboy on September 01, 2010, 07:42:13 PM
I agree with Art - keep this thread alive, it's awesome!!

As for the mother hover - we had that a bit here with our first and it's gotten better with the next two, but it's still pretty bad.  Here's a stock tip -  buy any company that makes hand wipes and gel cleansers - and then buy pharmaceutical companies that make the antibiotics we feed our kids.  And then buy long term care facilities.  ;D

Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: Art Blade on September 02, 2010, 09:08:33 AM
we have a saying here, "dirt scrubs the stomach" - in your early years you develop your immunity system that sticks with you for life. So, the more dirt you have on your hands (and put those in your mouth, maybe by merely eating a butty with your unwashed hands) the more your system builds up and the less probable the chances of infections later on in life.  :)
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: mmosu on September 02, 2010, 11:29:10 AM
OWG gone wild! Love it!  ;D :-X
Art, I took that approach with my daughter too.  My wife would get freaked out when she would catch our daughter with something "dirty" in her mouth and my typical response usually was something along the lines of "oh well, that's what her immune system is for".  Not that I let my child sit around sucking on rusty nails mind you, but kids are kids and they put strange things in their mouths including whatever is on their grubby little hands after a long day of play.  Every kid is gonna do it no matter how good you are at keeping their hands clean.  I think a lot of people probably knew a frail little nerdy kid growing up who spent all their time indoors, never was allowed to get dirty, and probably seemed like they were sick a lot (and if you can't think of one then maybe you're that kid  ;D).   
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: spaceboy on September 02, 2010, 12:00:28 PM
Quote from: mmosu on September 02, 2010, 11:29:10 AM
Not that I let my child sit around sucking on rusty nails mind you

What's wrong with a little extra iron in your diet?

Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: JRD on September 02, 2010, 12:52:37 PM
Quote from: Art Blade on September 02, 2010, 09:08:33 AM
we have a saying here, "dirt scrubs the stomach" - in your early years you develop your immunity system that sticks with you for life. So, the more dirt you have on your hands (and put those in your mouth, maybe by merely eating a butty with your unwashed hands) the more your system builds up and the less probable the chances of infections later on in life.  :)

Hehehehe... in Brazil we call it vitamin S as in "Sujeira" = Dirt  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: Art Blade on September 02, 2010, 02:54:48 PM
Hahaha, good one, guys  ;D

sucking rusty nails being part of a healthy diet.. not a bad idea. How about sucking on rusty dented knives or razor blades, I believe it's kind of more rewarding for a kid than silly nails.

Vitamina S.. reminds me.. yes, kids put strange things in their mouths.. maybe that's why so many kids grow up with cats and dogs. Always an adventure to crawl around the roots of a tree with the dog minding its own business around that tree or fun to play in the cat's sand box..  8-X :-D Are we so fond of "sandbox games" because of that?  :-\
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: PZ on September 02, 2010, 08:52:07 PM
yuk!
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: JRD on September 03, 2010, 12:12:50 AM
"Mummy... this chocolate tastes funny"  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: Art Blade on September 03, 2010, 12:25:19 AM
 ^+-+

It about that time parents buy plasticine for the first time and start thinking about clean hands. :-D
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: Art Blade on September 03, 2010, 12:48:55 AM
I remember a story when parents (friends of my 'rents) of like four- or five-year-old kids told the following:

kid  "we drew some pictures
parent "hey, that's nice
kid "and we hung them up
parent <surprised> "you hung them up?
kid <big smile> "yes, on the wall.
parent <worried> "show me.
kid <in their room> "here.
<some pics on the wall, but no nails or needles to be found at a glance>
parent <puzzled> "nice.. what did you hang them up with?
kid "with a little cream cheese spread.
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: JRD on September 03, 2010, 02:12:24 AM
If they used cream cheese it`s fine!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: mmosu on September 03, 2010, 04:29:10 AM
Yes, cream chees is much better - as I read that one I was getting more and more worried about where it was going  :-D
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: spaceboy on September 03, 2010, 06:13:36 AM
Quote from: mmosu on September 03, 2010, 04:29:10 AM
Yes, cream chees is much better - as I read that one I was getting more and more worried about where it was going  :-D
yeah - I figured it was going to be a booger
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: PZ on September 03, 2010, 08:37:42 AM
...or construction adhesive  :-()
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: mandru on September 03, 2010, 12:11:27 PM
Quote from: PZ on September 03, 2010, 08:37:42 AM
...or construction adhesive  :-()

Uhh, I was thinking of something more like post consumption adhesive.   :o
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: Art Blade on September 03, 2010, 12:23:26 PM
actually, it wasn't cream cheese.

Really.

It was liverwurst/liver sausage.

But that might have been a shock for you so I used something similar but with a cleaner appeal in that story.  ;D
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: spaceboy on September 03, 2010, 12:50:41 PM
I love both cream cheese and liverwurst - not at the same time mind you.

Oh man, some liverwurst on party ryes - mmmm good.  :-X
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: PZ on September 03, 2010, 01:19:47 PM
Or spread on authentic French bread - mmmm.....mmmmm.....good :-X
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: Art Blade on September 03, 2010, 03:14:30 PM
Now those comments really w@&k like a full stop and take out momentum of this little "going wild" thing  ;D
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: Art Blade on September 03, 2010, 03:25:43 PM
I just changed the subject.

Of the topic, that is  ;D

And I used that "topic note" again.. nice feature  :)

I think this topic is quite spectacular because about everyone who's an active poster at OWG has participated, and we've gone SO off topic, it's been a while we last did that without (me) splitting it off  ;D

Now if you've finished going off topic, how about you posted some screenshots that would relight your fire regarding FC2, or inspire people who haven't played it at all?  :)

Are there people out here who haven't?
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (for a long time)
Post by: JRD on September 03, 2010, 03:48:15 PM
Quote from: Art Blade on September 03, 2010, 12:23:26 PM
actually, it wasn't cream cheese.

Really.

It was liverwurst/liver sausage.

Pheeeew!!!  :-D
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: Art Blade on September 03, 2010, 04:48:56 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: mandru on September 03, 2010, 05:08:23 PM
[smg id=2538 width=400 type=preview align=center caption="Why indeed!"]

Really, I wondered about this one.  Y?
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: Art Blade on September 03, 2010, 05:43:20 PM
hahaha, nice  ;D

Perhaps to tell some mercs the way. Like, "you need to go LEFT there, and make sure you're running top speed to push away those cardboard rocks which are just fake and used to keep foreigners from using the good roads."
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: mmosu on September 03, 2010, 09:04:37 PM
Quote from: Art Blade on September 03, 2010, 05:43:20 PM
...those cardboard rocks which are just fake and used to keep foreigners from using the good roads."

Yeah, a cruel trick orchestrated by a ring of unscrupulous cab drivers who pick up unwitting foreigners, infect them with malaria, rob them blind, and then dump them at the nearest hotel right if the middle of a sparking powder keg - welcome to Pala sucker!  ;D
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: mandru on September 03, 2010, 09:46:06 PM
Heh heh @  mmosu.  :-X

1. The sign's on the wrong side of the road

2. If the crew that had set it up had dug the hole for it six inches this way they wouldn't have had to spend all that time drilling a hole through the boulder to place it.

Typical from a place being run by at least two factions with opposing views. 

Err...  rather like the U.S. now that I stop and think about it.   ???
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: Art Blade on September 04, 2010, 02:05:43 AM
mmosu: haha! ;D

mandru: heh, I noticed that the sign was artfully placed. Maybe that's it, it's no traffic sign at all! It's probably not a "Y" either, I think it's a stylised elephant's head. Only it's just a stupid and incompetent way to bloody promote it. ;D
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: mandru on September 04, 2010, 06:55:27 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: PZ on January 20, 2011, 05:26:59 PM
These are outstanding photos, Art - perusing the FC2 boards has brought back quite a few memories  :-X

I was driving down the rails from the southwest armory to the bus stop while the sun was rising, and you could see the shiny reflection of the polished rails, indicating the well-used tracks - too bad we never see these trains moving like in RDR.

The pic of the Fort is taken from the spot where I always take the time to dart the two tower snipers

Quote from: Art Blade on August 01, 2010, 04:40:02 PM
if you haven't touched it for a long time then maybe you'll remember how good this game is when you check out those pics. Don't you want to immediately  start playing again??

If you're new to the game, then you'll understand why we like it so much. To us oldsters who have played it for a year or more, those pics will cause some nice flashbacks  ;D

Enjoy.

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Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: mmosu on January 20, 2011, 06:34:58 PM
Crikey, those look fantastic . . . it's been over a month since I killed me a man . . . you all are gonna fool around and have me hoppin on a one way plane to Africa  :-()
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: spaceboy on January 20, 2011, 06:53:37 PM
sweet memories!  I may need to visit FC2 soon too!
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: fragger on January 22, 2011, 03:24:51 AM
Great collection of snaps there, PZ :-X
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: Art Blade on January 22, 2011, 03:28:30 AM
thanks, guys.. glad that those pics keep attracting people's interest  :) :-X
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: fragger on January 22, 2011, 03:55:25 AM
Oops... Sorry Art :-[ I didn't look at that post properly.

So - Great collection of snaps there, ART :-()
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: Fiach on January 22, 2011, 04:08:34 AM
The quality of a game like FC2, to me is its main detriment, The likes of it, Saboteur, RDR, Just Cause 2 etc. is that they are major time sinks and I wind up not having time to play other games.

I love story driven games, which are usually shorter and more focused, so I'm torn between balls out fun, or a story oriented adventure, The problem is the length of the sand box games makes me have to stop halfway through, when a new game is released, then I have to get myself back into sand-box mode.

I just caught Mercernaries 2 winking coyly at me, from the seductive shadows of my gaming shelf, Vanquish is pouting sulkily at me as it sneers in JC2's direction, The Witcher is just biding its time until Witcher 2 arrives in a month or so, then they are going to join together give me a right good hiding and leave me in no fit state to play Bulletstorm.....

Anyone think I game too much?  >:D ;D
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: Art Blade on January 22, 2011, 04:29:48 AM
don't worry, fragger  :)

Fiach, no.. gaming is good for you (I think)  ;D
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: fragger on January 29, 2011, 07:04:13 PM
I couldn't resist sending in this surreal-looking pic:

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Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: PZ on January 29, 2011, 08:55:50 PM
Good one, fragger  :-X
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: Art Blade on January 29, 2011, 09:55:55 PM
 ^+-+ I had to look twice before I got it  ;D ;D :-X :-X
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: deadman1 on January 30, 2011, 02:32:13 AM
Where did you find that fragger?
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: fragger on January 30, 2011, 03:39:54 AM
It's here, deadman:

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As with all TVs in FC2 land, there's a vertical hold problem with the set. I had to take about 20 screenshots before I got one without a vertical hold bar across the screen :-\\
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: mmosu on January 30, 2011, 06:36:00 AM
fragger, nice!  :-X
Looks like something from the twilight zone
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: Art Blade on January 30, 2011, 10:06:31 AM
funny, I thought that it was that place, fragger, but I couldn't quite get it. Now I know.. looking at your screenshot makes believe that the TV set always shows a clear image without that bar, and that was what made me wonder why I didn't remember that one.  :) Very good idea to wait until the bar is gone  ;D :-X
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: Art Blade on April 20, 2014, 03:49:22 PM
Oh yes.. *sigh* ..it does look great.
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Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: fragger on April 20, 2014, 04:34:31 PM
Yes indeed :-X The atmospheric effects in FC2 are superb!
Title: Re: If you haven't touched FC2 (OWG going wild!)
Post by: PZ on April 20, 2014, 09:12:31 PM
Looks almost like a photo of a real place  :-X