Someone managed to accomplish the only mission none of us ever managed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxy6ZkGHytU&feature=related
I was checking the vid fragger posted on the "Mortar Glitch" thread and saw this one there...
The guy uses the mortar glitch to enter the prision when you have to meet the Jackal there, hence keeping his weapon raised and being able to shoot... AND KILL... the Jackal... :o :o :o :o
I must say I'm really curious as to what happens at the end of the HoD when you are supposed to meet him again to choose between the battery and the siutcase!!
Cool video, and I assume it wouldn't break the game, as The Jackal at the end of the HoD is a separately spawned entity.
You are probably right...
BUT THE GUY SHOT THE JACKAL DEAD FOR CHRIST SAKE!!!!!!
I mean... who is this guy... ??
nice find, JRD :-X
Hahaha! Should have been an easter-egg, like if you somehow manage to kill the Jackal, which should have been impossible, you get a reward of sorts. Like, become a faction leader and the mercs of that faction stop harassing you while driving around :)
Quote from: JRD on January 31, 2010, 09:26:42 AM
I mean... who is this guy... ??
Ex CIA or maybe one of them crazy russians ;)
hahahahaha!!! nice catch! :-X
Quote from: deadman on January 31, 2010, 11:10:33 AM
Quote from: JRD on January 31, 2010, 09:26:42 AM
I mean... who is this guy... ??
Ex CIA or maybe one of them crazy russians ;)
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Nice one mate!!
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But actually I kind of thought:
"Hey... who he think he is, killing the Jack like that?!?!?!... You think you can just walk into FC2 world and shoot people likie that?? Come here and I'll teach you a lesson, son" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Nah... actually I thought:
"Hey... why didn't
I think of that first?? ::)
LOL! ;D
Quality ;D ;D
excellent ;D :-X
Nice, but I would have given him his machete back. :-*
Well, I'll be hornswoggled! The Jackal, dead! :o
I guess he'd respawn later though, in his shack near the end. I wonder if you could do the mortar trick there too, and what would happen if you bumped him off again...
@JRD: ;D ;D ;D
An interesting thought fragger.
I would seriously hate trying to get through the end game without my dart rifle. I really lean heavily on it through that part of the game and always need to grab my spare from the weapons locker at that last safe house before the factions leaders confab and the LZ.
I guess that means I should intentionally outfit myself with a different kit to break out of my rut, huh? ::)
deffo worth a try, mandru. I'm doing that myself once in a while, last playthrough I exchanged my MP5 with a dragunov. I had 6P9 and dart along with it. Now, new playthrough, I try something different again: Because I started off at Slaughter House, I had a rotting flame thrower, so I bought a fresh one at the arms dealer. The tutorial-forced buy made me grab the Homeland pumpgun (usually I buy the makarov). The first sniper I killed left me his M1903, which replaced my Homeland, and I bought a fresh M1903. I then replaced the Slaughter House donation gun (Star .45) with a freshly acquired 6P9. So now I'm up for some fun with a hardcore sniper M1903, flame thrower and 6P9 :)
In your case, try it, it's 1/50+ playthroughs for you, so about time you did change your loadout for the fun of it :)
Very nice fine JRD, and it astounds me that this wasn't discovered first by an OWG member! (we need to invite that guy to our forum)
I also noticed he was kind enough to wait for the Jackal to finish his speech before pulling the trigger!!
What a gentleman!! ;D ;D
Lol, indeed. :P
hehehe, funny thought :) But I think he heard him out so the doors would open to Heart of Darkness. ;)
He doesn't need open doors... he can pull the mortar glitch again... ;)
you've got a point there... :-X
But on the other hand, if you shoot him too early, the Heart of Darkness may not trigger, so you need to listen to all his yadda yadda yadda or you'll be stuck anyway!!
Tricky isn´t it? :-\
True, true.
my thoughts exactly (needing that blahblah to trigger) :)
Quote from: Art Blade on February 01, 2010, 02:13:20 PM
hehehe, funny thought :) But I think he heard him out so the doors would open to Heart of Darkness. ;)
Quote from: JRD on February 01, 2010, 02:54:59 PM
But on the other hand, if you shoot him too early, the Heart of Darkness may not trigger, so you need to listen to all his yadda yadda yadda or you'll be stuck anyway!!
What goes around comes around... ::)
Inspired by your avatar Art... ;D ;D ;D
haha, cheers JRD :) I'm just glad I don't get any ideas from your avatar ;D
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I wonder what would happen if you carpet bomb the place with the mortar form the outside? Or use the grenade launcher? Probably won't kill him though, he might not spawn until you cross the prison boundary. Maybe not though.....
hehe, good idea. There's a download (http://openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=122) for you if you want, 92% game progress, you're about to go to the prison :)
Someone try it out and let us know. :P
Okay – I loaded up Art's saved game (Paul, 92% completed, Reputation 5, 638 diamonds). Having a rep of 5 proved to be a hoot in town! Bumping into mercs produced comments like, "It's cool, man, be cool" and "My mistake man, I'm in your way", and things of that nature, accompanied by much apprehensive backing away. When I pointed a weapon at one of them, he threw up his hands and went "Yeaaargh!" in a high-pitched girly voice. Hilarious! Finally, as I departed, I overheard a merc remark, "Thank Christ he's going away" ;D
Then I went straight to the prison. Well actually, I stopped off at the Marina first to visit the Weapon Shop and pick up a few things, primarily the mortar. With 638 diamonds to spend, I was like the proverbial kid in a candy store ;D
On arriving at the prison, the first thing I tried to do was the mortar glitch on the door, but it didn't w@&k. I think Dweller_Benthos is correct in saying that the 1.03 patch prevents this from working. So since I couldn't get in loaded for bear, I started looking around outside, and I discovered that I could climb up onto a large rock just outside the wall.
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From there, I fired a whole bunch of mortar rounds inside, with the launcher set to closest range, then lobbed generous quantities of hand grenades over the wall, giving them a bit of a spread. Btw, Art, did you include a cheat of some sort with that saved game? Because I had an infinite supply of grenades and molotovs on hand.
When I went in, there he was, dead as last week's chops. I couldn't tell what got him, a grenade or a mortar round. There was no message of any kind to tell me when he copped it, but he'd definitely had a major attitude adjustment.
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As we suspected though, I couldn't progress any further. Killing him before he could deliver his schtick prevented the outer door from opening, ie. I didn't get a hand icon at the door so I couldn't get through. Possibly if the mortar glitch worked, I could have. Would have been interesting to see what would've happened from then on... we need someone with an unpatched game to try this, it seems.
So I reloaded the game and went through as normal. Later, when I caught up with him again in his shack, I tried the mortar glitch again on the door, but as expected, it wouldn't w@&k. I then tried to blow him up before going in by placing IEDs all over the walls and set them off. He was still alive, and his usual chipper self, when I finally went inside.
So, yes, you can kill him from outside the prison, but it won't allow you to progress any further in the game without letting him talk his talk, unless you can do the mortar trick on the outer door. What happens then is anyone's guess – well, mine anyway.
Nice research fragger. :-X
Nice one fragger... now we can proudly say "One of our members actually killed the Jackal" ;D ;D ;D :-X :-X :-X
And that`s a hell of a credential... of course, that little cheat of Art giving you unlimited grenades can be forgotten since you could`ve accomplished that with a single one, right? Right... so... congrats fragger, my mate, killed the Jackal without cheating... ;)
First of all, I am surprised to learn the unlimited ammo cheat, which I did actually use when starting that career, not only survived in the savegame (alright, I kind of guessed it already, see the cheats topic for FC2 which I edited not long ago, giving specific instructions on how to apply the cheat to provide you with unlimited grens and molotovs) but also remained active without its proper command line. Thanks for your involuntary but valuable research, fragger ;D
And of course, nice story and research, and joining in with JRD, congrats on killing that old ba$t@rd ;D :-X
With the high jump & no clip cheats in the trainer, you can get beyond the prison, but I'm not sure if you can continue or not. The game might need that trigger of the Jackal opening the door to set up the rest of the final part of the game.
Congratulations on the research, fragger.
Cool findings! :-X
Thanks, chaps :) That'll teach the bugger to swing a machete and point a gun at a sick man :-*
@Art - Yes, it was interesting how the cheat stayed active without a command line edit. That was an added bonus - something new accidentally discovered.
funny, isn't it, how we keep discovering things in FC2. :)
It is amazing! :)
Nice one, fragger - I'd like to try that just to see his dead body on the ground ;D
Thanks, PZ :)
It is quite satisfying to see him on his back, with his belligerence removed ;D
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Nice find on the video and in teasing apart all the little nuances that this situation presents guys! I don't know how I missed this thread until now, but I'm glad I got to see it. My game is unpatched, so maybe I can try with the mortar glitch intact when my buddy is finished with my game disc . . .
Quote from: fragger on February 08, 2010, 10:49:39 PM
So, yes, you can kill him from outside the prison, but it won't allow you to progress any further in the game without letting him talk his talk, unless you can do the mortar trick on the outer door. What happens then is anyone's guess – well, mine anyway.
I found the solution without the mortar glitch (patched game). I killed the jackal from inside the prison with a hand grenade and went out to the jungle. Read more here (http://openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?topic=2272.msg41566#msg41566) ;D
what happens then.. after you pass the invisible respawn area border, the game freezes for a moment and then you wonder what it is.. check the map.. check the pause menu to see the mission.. and realise that the game wants you to meet with the Jackal in the prison (which you can't because you already dropped down those rocks you can't climb back up.. no return path to the prison).
I'll now go check out what is out there in the jungle.. the Landing Zone.. hehehe :)
Well.. nothing there. Mercs still are where they're supposed to be but lacking mission goals there is nothing triggering "classic" events.
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I found fewer mercs farther up the road to the end zone and without diamond case from the LZ no meeting with the jackal and without battery nor diamond case to choose no end game. Just kind of boring, really.
At least we now know that it is possible to get to the end zone after having killed the jackal.
What I found odd is that the game seems to record the death of the Jackal. I thought that by reaching an area like the LZ or shack would cause all NPCs to spawn and you'd bump into Jackal's ressurected body / twin bro
Did you get the mission from him at the Prison or did you shoot him and continued towards the Heart of Darkness? Is there a way to get the mission from him, kill him and go on? ????
The only mission you get from him in the prison is to continue into the Heart of Darkness (there is no way back into the game once you've entered the prison and he started talking). That is what opens the other gate towards the jungle, what hadn't been possible before when trying to kill him from the outside or before he finished his speech. So I waited until I could have gone to the jungle and only then I tossed a grenade at him. The jungle had already been accessible. In the end I killed him after getting his mission and went on. Once you do go on and before you meet the first mercs the game resets the status to "meet the Jackal at the prison" which is impossible due to the rocks you can't climb back up.
I see... :-\\
So the game steps back but you can't do the same >:((
What fun! This is exactly what defines "open world".
OWG members sure do know how to test a game to the maximum :-()
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