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I was in the mood to play "HitMan(4): Blood Money" again. It's a game from 2006 and compared to today's game graphics not half bad... of course you shouldn't compare it with stars like FC2. Still, it has its own charm, and a very dark humor  ;D

The main story is: You're Agent 47, created for perfect assassinations. There are clone versions of yourself, but that is a background story not really important (you almost never see them, except in side episodes, in games pre-HM4).

You receive your missions from "the agency" and each mission has a scripted intro sequence with some story background. The missions take place in very different locations, for example on a Mississippi Steam Boat, a huge Hacienda, some posh uber-villa in the mountains (literally halfways "in" the mountains...), a wedding on a huge Farm, a lunatic asylum, a giant fancy dress party on two stores in a business building (one theme "heaven", one "hell") etc...

You start with a set of different weapons (silverballer pistol, MP-5, SP12 shotgun (resembles a SPAS), an assault rifle M4, and a sniper rifle "W2000" (and you can only carry 3, similar to FC2)

On progressing in the game, you unlock special parts and ammo for your weapons as well as better armour, lockpick tools etc. You earn money and bonus money for missions well done. With the money you purchase those weapon upgrades. Good thing, you can redo previous missions and then get the bonus if you failed to get it in the first place. And you can use the meanwhile modified weapons :)

I love the customisable weapons (there's a silenced MP-5 as in FC2, only I use armour-piercing bullets and expanded clips etc) and the ability to disguise oneself (kill or anaesthetise someone, and change clothes - you drop yours in form of a little white bag and leave your victim in his underwear).

You can do it silently or the brutal way. Top award is "Silent Assassin" (biggest prize money) down to terrorist/psychopath etc.

Some screenies for you :) BTW: you cast a shadow, see 2nd last pic, you see the head...

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Nice one Art.
I only played HitMan 1, long time ago, can't even remember when it was released  :P.
Nice story and good graphics back then. I like the drop your clothes thing and to hide bodies.
Too bad the streets were too deserted and scenario wasn't alive... think the new titles had lots of improvement  ;)

thanks JRD,

I recently bought 3 Hitman titles in a bundle, if I'm not mistaken, one title of the game series was only available for console. I played all three PC versions (again) and obviously Blood Money is the best both regarding gameplay and graphics. The other are only for sentiment :)

Art you bought back some good gaming memories with the Hitman games.  I finished Hitman Contracts about end of Jan. I started FC2 after so the game is still fresh in my mind.  I like being able to hide the bodies. The weapon choices are good also.
Glad to see you like them as well.

I might add, you can toggle 1st person and 3rd person view at any time :)

yeah... I loved those hitman games... contracts... hmmmm  :) :-X

Speaking of bringing back good memories... The three HM games bundle was a souvenir I bought during one of my last trips to Spain, and it is marvellous to hear the Spanish voices again now that I enjoy another playthrough after some months (Spanish voices are much more theatrical than in the German or English versions, this time "theatrical" being positive, funny)

The same group of devs made Kane&Lynch, by the way, game engine based on HM4:

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I bought three of them in a bargain bin a couple of years back, H1, H2 and Contracts, I never got around to playing them, seemed like alot of effort and patience plus trial and error was needed, must have a look at them again, cheers :)

definitely worth it (although it will send you back to stoneage, graphics-wise  ;D meaning there is a clear development in each sequel, H4 the latest = almost cool compared with today's standards, regarding its age (2006)

I did enjoy my "bargain bin" very much :) And, no, not much to worry. Missions are given, you are free to accomplish "victory" any way you want

Excellent read - thanks for posting these mini reviews of sorts on other games.  As someone who doesn't have much experience with many titles, I appreciate the screen captures and descriptions of games that could potentially be winners in my library.  There are so many games available, it is difficult to choose.

glad you like it :)

Regarding OpenWorldGames: HM games are sort of open world. Basically you get a mission to kill one or more targets, then you select your loadout, then you start inside a specific level (each mission has its own map).

From there on you are free to roam the map, make your choices of how to sneak in or which way to do it, you can restrict yourself to only kill the target or go berserk and erase the entire populace. Like that, it is a free game, the only limit being the map itself.

One thing I want to show you is an "easter egg" in HM:BM because I can both tell you a little more about the game and show the dark humor involved :)

You can see Agent 47 disguised as a guy who cleans the pool. The woman you see is known for erm, her way of interpreting monogamy. She fancies the pool guy...

who has a shack in the garden with tools and a bottle of a flammable liquid (there's one more in the basement of the villa). First you show up as the pool guy, she seduces you and asks you to follow her to the bedroom (you don't see anything though). She then goes to sleep and you rob her collar with a mircofilm. So far, normal game. Now you go to the pool and splash both bottles into the grill... Next thing is she walks up, lights the grill and whoosh! (you can do that anyway with one bottle at any time) The easter egg is, having done it in the aforementioned order, you see the bodyguards line up, clap their hands, and do "la ola" (nor sure if you know that term, you see it during football games when fans get up and sit down and create a wave).

Always fun to disguise, and to find out what you can do to achive your goals, so many funny ways :)

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At the end of each mission, I like that a lot, you get to read today's newspaper (which one depends on where the crime scene was) and the stats are worked into the article. You can read how many shots you fired, which was your favourite weapon, if there were witnesses, casualties... fun fun fun :)

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Looks good..I'm gonna keep my eyes open for it.

erm.... its actually called a Mexican Wave ...... invented by an irishman no doubt :)

Quote from: Fiach on June 12, 2009, 09:06:23 AM
erm.... its actually called a Mexican Wave ...... invented by an irishman no doubt :)

... first seen on the football (soccer) world cup of 1986, in Mexico  ;)

Back on topic... it looks like a great game graphics seems good too... will keep my eyes open for this one too, thanks for the tip  :-X

Just one more thing, regarding customisable weapons: ALL of your 5 customised weapons can use a silencer! And you can change your weapon modifications at any time, change them, change parts, only has to be done before a mission.

I personally celebrate the entire Hitman catalog.  I was in love as soon as I played Hitman 2 way back on the PS2.  The story and the darkness of the central character drew me in, and the fact that the possibilities were only limited by my own creativity kept me coming back.  Blood Money probably is the best game of the series but Contracts was my favorite overall due to the creative way in which the story was presented.  The opening movie has 47 stumbling through the door of a nasty hotel room.  He is gut-shot and bleeding badly, and eventually collapses on the bathroom floor.  Once there he begins slipping in and out of consciousness and having flashbacks of his greatest murders.  You actually play through the flashbacks as they occur, very creative presentation!

absolultely right, I started with contracts (HM3) because HM2 was never released on PC, and I sort of missed there was a HM1. When I bought the box of three HM in spain, it contained all PC versions, HM1, -3 and -4. One was funny because of the graphics compared to now, but that story was cool too. Well, played contracts again and again thought wow, how cool is that game storywise and how it's being told, those flashbacks you mentioned. Without having played Contracts in the first place, I'd probably never had a look at BloodMoney. However, even today BloodMoney looks nice, and the character control is much better than in any of the previous games. And man... still has this fun and thrill factor  :)

When I first started playing it was fun to just go megaton and leave no witnesses, but after awhile when you start to actually use your head the game really opens up.  Your first "Silent Assassin" rating is always something special, to take someone out in a room full of witnesses (with decent AI considering how long ago some of these games were made) without anyone knowing you did it is a tall order!

indeed, the AI is awesome on higher difficulty levels. Even on easy it can mean escaping the scene by the skin of one's teeth ;) And the biggest achievement is indeed to finish every mission at least once "silent assassin"  :)

in case someone reads this topic without knowing of JRD's topic (he bought the game  :-X ) I just quote myself (sorry) so you get one more description for HMBM in the proper topic.

Quote from: Art Blade on September 11, 2009, 08:03:45 PM
hehe :)

HMBM usually gives you one or more targets per mission. That's it :) Meaning, it is totally up to you how you solve your problem... kill everyone, a few, or just the target(s)... The "rating" of your mission accomplished depends on how noisy and bloodthirsty you were. If no one noticed you and only the target bites the dust, you will be rewarded "silent assassin". The more ruckus you produce, the worse the rating will be, like psychopath, terrorist, professional etc. On higher difficulty levels, you will be remembered in the next mission - ie if you lost it in the previous mission, psychopath behaviour, if there were witnesses and/or surveillance video tapes, you will be in the newspapers with a more or less accurate description and identikit/photofit picture... the recognition value will then cause you to be spotted quickly in your next mission. If you have enough money, you an bribe people to "forget" what they saw, erasing your mistakes from previous missions. Or just replay the last mission trying to finish cleaner :) It is great fun and I have replayed the game countless times. Each and every mission can be solved in various ways, using guns, explosives, poison, kitchen knives, a piano cord... be "creative" :)

Oh, once you got a better weapon and once you upgraded that, you can go back to previous missions with your new toys, trying to get a better rating (and earn bonus money if you didn't finish "silent assassin" previously)

I have not found the Hitman series anywhere so i checked out Amazon and found it - there is actually a trio of hitman titles that sell in a package for $14.99 - great bargain.

I probably got the same trio in spain :) great price indeed. If I were you, I would only install HMBM, the other games are WAY outdated and the handling is not exactly good... whereas HMBM is great :)

I gotta thank you Art and others for reminding me of HMBM. I'm gonna look for it to play as I did the Contracts a little while ago and had forgotten how much fun and variety is in the game.  I just was a MASS MURDERER quite a few times. I guess I didn't want to leave witnesses.  hehe.

hehe, I played every level countless times in a way the game described me as psychopath, terrorist and whatnot, I killed everything that moved :) But after a while, when you know the missions, the real kick is to achive the title Silent Assassin :)

Quote from: Art Blade on September 18, 2009, 04:31:09 PM
I probably got the same trio in spain :) great price indeed. If I were you, I would only install HMBM, the other games are WAY outdated and the handling is not exactly good... whereas HMBM is great :)

That's good to know because HMBM by itself is less than $10

only get that. The other games are only worth it if you are sentimental. I used to have one of the two other HM, so it was for sentimental reasons, and I never knew the oldest one, so that was out of loyality and curiosity. Plus, they were in Spanish, wich was a nice change and a bonus for me.

By the way, your rating depends on violence, too. Too much violence, or unnecessary violence, has a negative effect on your rating.

Quote from: retiredgord on September 18, 2009, 04:36:14 PMI just was a MASS MURDERER quite a few times. I guess I didn't want to leave witnesses.  hehe.

To leave no witnesses is fun, but to never create any to begin with is to master the hit!




fixed the quote for you / Art Blade

that's it, just hard to accomplish in the first run :) Fortunately you can try again and again

Quote from: Art Blade on September 22, 2009, 02:01:01 PM
that's it, just hard to accomplish in the first run :) Fortunately you can try again and again

I did it once, Silent Assassin on a first try.  Pure luck, just happened to be standing in the right place at the right time.  That's pretty much what it takes, unless you are willing to study AI patterns for hours on end during your first try, not the most fun approach. . .

The hardest missions were the Mississippi steam boat (5 gang members + captain of it) and that wedding on a ranch with crocodiles... jeez, took me ages to get those sorted :) The wedding and the boat has like a hundred plus of innocent bystanders, takes ages to kill them all  ;D And both are very tricky to manage if you want to achive silent assassin. Oh, and the opera mission... wow, that can take quite some time, this way or another :)

My favourite mission is that Vinnie Slugger mission with that FBI guarded mansion and the pool. Did it dozens of times :)

You mean that the mission involved killing all the innocent bystanders?

hahaha, not at all :) The game specifically tells you which target(s) to eliminate, but it is up to you how much collaterals are involved... I did kill all of the innocents so there were no witnesses left  ;D

lol, that's funny - no witnesses and your reputation is solid!

hehe, you can do what you want :) Your reputation might be rotten after a mayhem like the one mentioned above, but at least you had some fun  ;D

Usually a mission works like this:

- explore the area, check the escape routes
- find your target(s)
- if necessary (mostly it is) disguise yourself without anyone watching you (use syringes with narcotics, don't kill the guy whose clothes you want to borrow)
- make sure no one witnesses you when...
- ...you kill him or them...
- ...silently, if possible.
- find the only video cassette if you got caught on camera (you will see the recording in progress displayed to you if so)
- perhaps kill the witness(es) if there were any
- if possible, hide bodies (there are crates or garbage containers to do so)
- if possible, retrieve your own clothes
- escape

Well, if you were silent and unnoticed, you may walk around after your hit. And do some extra damage, if you are in a bad mood  ;) ;D

On a PC you can save up to three times per mission or have to override a savegame. Higher difficulty levels only allow a certain amount of saves per mission, up to none. So you have to be thoughtful :)

Sounds like loads of fun - and replay value  :-X

that was the big draw for me in the beginning, the game is only limited by the cunning and creativity of the player

So I finished my first real assassination in HMBM...
The one at the amusement park won`t count as its like a tutorial imo...
Got that druglord and his son in Chile during the wine tasting... excellent gameplay... really, really entertaining... I`m glad I sepent 15 bucks in it.
I saw so many ways of accomplishing the both killings. Finnally I managed to do it completely undetected. Shot the son in the head at the cellar while nobody was watching and went for his father. Managed to climb to the roof of the mansion unseen, into the room through an open window and another headshot.
Escape was very easy. I just didn`t know you have to retrieve your suit for perfection (if you don`t you loose 5,000 k of you cash - no big deal)
During my investigation of the local (I really like that part) I also realized many different ways to infiltrate and assassinate both targets...
I have played the very first HM before, long ago, but never finished it, can`t remember why!! This one is much more fluid and smooth even though is clearly outdated graphicswise.
Still, I`m having a lot of fun with this one and Burnout Paradise...

I wish levels were bigger though... the big villa those guys were living ain`t that big!!!

Any chance of a new Hitman hitting the shelves one day in the near future?

glad you like it, JRD  :) I kind of knew you would  ;D

Well, if there's any sequel, count me in  :-X

I am suspicious that "Kane & Lynch: dead men" was Eidos first attempt at working out their next generation gaming engine and "big crowd" dynamics for the new platforms.  Hope that's what it was anyway, it had potential but it was a real stinker from what I hear (I only played the downloadable demo personally).  If so then maybe a new hitman is not far off!!! ;D :-X

I played Kane&Lynch through two or three times. I liked it a lot after you got used to exchanging weapons with your buddies (more like, I used them as a weapon box and gave them stuff I needed later). It had a similar portion of dark humour as had the HitMan series, and it was quite funny, too.

I'll never forget that one scene when you return to the lobby of a bank where that brute buddy of yours was supposed to watch over the hostages, but all you see is dead bodies everywhere and hear him curse and shoot. Then you ask him what the hell he was doing, and he tried to convince you the lobby had been stormed by police and the likes. When you tell him there are no police at all, he excuses himself with something along the line of "it was hot under my mask" LOL - he only had had fun shooting down all innocents. Insane ba$t@rd  ;D

But it is a very linear game.

So I guess I made the right choice... I was between Kane & Lynch and Hitman: Blood Money.
I really like the non linear aspect of HMBM... there are several ways of accomplishing your assassinations and it makes for great replayability, which is one aspect of a game I care the most.
I said it once and will say it again... games like Crysis, beautyful but stupid linear, just sucks... a dumb FPS, a memory test with absolutely no replay value... waste of money.
HMBM is outdated, but gameplay is great and I`m sure it`s worth every cent I spent on it ($14.99  ;D )
K&L being linear is one thing that can make me stay away from it. The new GTA IV, although beautyful, didn`t hook me. I`m halfway through the game and just don`t play it anymore. Its not that linear, but it leads you by the hand to perform your tasks. You have to take the gun they give you, stay in the spot they tell you to and do as you are told!
After the freedom experienced in FC2 and now HMBM, I just can`t play games like this! Even HMBM is sometimes too obvious in hinting you as how to kill that guy, but you can always choose the other way round  ;)

So far I managed to kill all my targets unnoticed, notoriety is at zero, made my first million andstill have lots to do (playing on normal, next time will do it on Expert and face the challenge)

:)

I think a game is great if you keep playing it even after years.

Hey Art... what`s with that hideout with spots for lots of guns, but just one set available?
And what is that notoriety stuff... zero is the better right? I mean, if my notoriety is high, it means my face is well known and I`ll have trouble accomplishing my tasks... isn`t it?
Cheers

The hideout is where all those weapons show up that you grabbed and carried around during your missions. Usually there are special weapons, some are like on a shelf in a room, some in posession of your targets, or police etc. The tutorial has a Dragunov which is tricky to get. Took me years to finally get it: use the black weapon box on the ground floor of the house where the secretary and the boss of that theme park are. Place it inside that box there, the other boxes don't w@&k for that matter. you can grab the Deagle or Uzi and all and keep them in your jacket. They will then show up in your hideout. The hideout is also a shooting range where you can play with your guns.

The notority is bad. keep it zero. Else they may recognise you during missions.

Yeah, I started a game once with the objective of raising my notoriety as high as it would go.  So I did things like walking around firing indiscriminately up into the sky while howling at the moon, dancing around in front of every camera I could find, and generally raising mayhem in as much of a high-profile fashion as possible.  I wasn't too many missions in when it had already gotten to the point where guards would fire at me on sight and civilians would run away screaming things like "it's the man from TV!" or something along those lines.  Anyway, it got frusterating very quickly.

Art, maybe I should give K&L another chance, I don't mind playing through a linear game once if the story is good.  Might be a good one to rent. . .

mmosu, I had read good critics about the game before I got it, and it was fun. You can do a lot of nonsense like shooting "innocent" people in a prison etc, so you have a certain freedom to go on rampage. The game itself is not exactly easy, just the right mixture between story, action, and lots of dark humour :) I'd definitely recommend it if you can rent it.  :)

HITMAN 5 DUE TO 2010? (http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/hitman5/news.html?sid=6215107&om_act=convert&om_clk=newsfeatures&tag=newsfeatures;title;1)

that would be amazing :-X

cool... would be great :)

did you see the last line... "Kane & Lynch 2: Dog Days"?  ;D

I am downloading this game right now through Steam, it cost only $4.99. :-X Steam is having a sale this weekend on all the Hitman games they have, some good deals on there now.
I will start messing around with this game in a little while after it finishes up downloading. It sounds like it will be a fun game. I will post here with my thoughts on the game after trying it out for awhile. Thanks for the heads up on this game, I'm always looking for something new to play. :-X

You won't regret.. graphics are outdated, but gasmeplay is fun... lots of replay value and freedom to accomplish your targets... really a good buy for me... thanks to Art for that one

I got looking around for HMBM for the PC but couldn't find it. I didn't think of checking online. However in my pursuit of games to play I did find it in the old Xbox format, one at an EB Games in London, Ont.  It cost me a whole 10 bucks. The other Hit Man (Contracts) is on Xbox so I should be able to have some upstairs gaming fun . It seems BM is very rare in this neck of the woods so I'll try when I go visit Texas in Nov. I'm also thinking of getting my new video card there as well, at least check the prices. Maybe near Christmas I'll be able to save some screenshots from my PC gameplay. Hey, Art, did you notice my last pics were MORE UP TO DATE?   ;D. My camera had not been changed for the present dates.
    I must experiment and do both FC2 on PC and on PS3 at the same time (when I can get the PS3 when the son is at w@&k) to see some differences that's been mentioned in the posts.

Cool Gord - game play on the PC has turned out to be much more fun for me that playing on the console, but that is because I like to tweak things to my liking.  Sort of like the difference between Mac and PC - I never liked the "black box" attitude of Apple right from the start a couple of decades or so ago.

welcome, welcome :) I still play it every once and again, and I keep having fun. Bloody fun.  ;D

I was playing the mission at the winery last night, and was in the wine cellar, and saw 2 party goers making out in a dark corner. I didn't think that was appropriate in public, so I disposed of them. :)

Wine cellar !!!

[man, I gotta get this game...]  ;)

Quote from: Hacko on October 09, 2009, 02:43:11 PMI didn't think that was appropriate in public, so I disposed of them. :)

Excellent.  ;D :-X

Quote from: PZ on October 09, 2009, 02:55:59 PM
Wine cellar !!!

[man, I gotta get this game...]  ;)

It is a huge wine cellar, and if you sneak around, you'll find a table with a small white line on it... The son of the estate has a little of that stuff around his nostrils I believe...  ;) I don't think that's appropriate either, so I disposed of the son who also happened to be a target. The line still on the table... didn't attract more people to sniff it off as long as I was around gesturing with big guns though  ;D

I saw the son snorting that before I offed him. :) I guess it's true, drugs will kill you. ;D

something funny came to my mind, explosives. you can place one or more (depending on your advance) explosives that you can detonate remotely. I was just remembering I placed one of those under the desk with the white line to have that son cross the line and blow up... but some guard found the device and carried it away. The fun part is: you can still detonate that thing. Sends the carrier flying away and everything and everyone in a good range will frag as well  ;D

There's a cool one in Hitman 2 involving explosives.  You're hired to off these two Russian mafia bosses in St. Petersburg.  They both arrive in limos at opposite ends of a park, their guards get out and block the entrances, then they both enter and meet in the middle for awhile, then they return to their cars and leave, giving you only a few minutes as a window of opportunity.  Well, if you are quick and know where you are going, you can get down in the sewer and sprint between the two ends of the park. It just so happens that you have explosives and, what's this? . . . What luck! . . . both cars just happened to park on top of sewer covers!  If you don't take any wrong turns underground and set the sprinting record, you have just enough time to plant explosives on the bottom of both cars before the end of the meeting.  The best part is coming back up to the surface in time to see the fireworks and the guards bodies go flying from around the cars when they finally light off!
Another option for this one is to break into a nearby church tower, climb to the top, strangle the sharpshooter there, and then wait for the start of the meeting when the two bosses hug - one shot, two kills ;)

Cool descriptions of the play - thanks for posting.  It sounds almost like an FC2 type of experience.  :-X

I remember that mission, I didn't think of the explosives combined with sewer entrances  :-X But I indeed did shoot them while they hugged  ;D

What's funny is when you do it that way, it takes the guards a long time to figure out something is wrong, since the exact spot of the start of the meeting is just out of view of both entrances to the park, and you took out the only spotter who had an unobstructed view of the center.   
Another one I loved from that game was the one where you take out the guy in japan.  Assuming you are able to slip into his heavily guarded compound unnoticed, you are eventually presented with the opportunity do disguise yourself as a sushi chef.  And what's on the menu tonight you ask?  Fugu, which as any sushi fan knows, will almost instantly cause respiratory and cardiac arrest if prepared incorrectly and eaten.  Suffice to say, you are not a skilled sushi chef . . .

hehehehehe, nice one ;D I don't remember if I used that "technique" but I seem to remember I used something with an arrow... a crossbow? And weren't there rice paper windows that didn't shatter if you shot through? Long time... but that level was beautiful. I know for sure that at least once I killed the entire staff on that compound  :)

I found an interesting youtube vid for that level... crazy and excellent. This may give the others an idea of what HM2 looks like graphics-wise and how you use stealth, anesthetics and patience for silent assasination. But that player is stone cold and cool LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF9n62bPgzA

Good stuff! It just reminds me how much there needs to be another installment in this series  ;D

They need to do like they are doing with God of War and come out with an HD remastered version of the original games all in one volume, so that you can move between the games seemlessly.

Is the "Blood Money" installment the most recent version?

yes.

Well fellows I just started the game on the Xbox and am finding it quite enjoyable. I just finished the first mission, the assassination of the the two drug lords and did the son in with a mine and the dad in with the poison. No guards knew it as with the son they just ran around. hehehe. The old guy bought it practising the cello. I was just a killer in this.  This could be fun.

Retiredgord is describing the "wine cellar" mission - as you can read, the way you can accomplish the mission is also changing the perspective of how you'd describe the same mission. Another way of doing the exact same cello/wine cellar mission is to be seen in some of my pics above... I'll show them again at the end of this post ;) By the way, the last pic shows a nice sniper position... you can see the balconies where the old fart (the cello player) will step around and have a smoke... Usually I take him out then and from there :)

Glad you like it, Retiredgord, and I bet you'll have lots of fun. I know you.  ;D

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Is that a shotgun you're taking him out with from that sniper position?

It is a shotgun I'm holding there in that sniper position. I was just admiring the waterfalls, then. The old cello bloke is probably still in his room, with a piano cord tied around his broken neck  ;D

lol, I know - just giving you a bad time - no one would use a shotgun as a sniper weapon  ;D

I can just imagine a marine sniper with his spotter:
[spotter] "800 meters, wind 2 knots" 
[sniper] "I'd better switch to buck shot then]

Quote from: PZ on October 12, 2009, 11:04:53 AM
lol, I know - just giving you a bad time - no one would use a shotgun as a sniper weapon  ;D

I can just imagine a marine sniper with his spotter:

lol, and I always fall for it.  :) Let me continue your conversation... about the conversation I had when defending that bloody farm (operation flashpoint dragon rising)

[spotter] "800 meters, wind 2 knots" 
[sniper] "I'd better switch to buck shot then"
[spotter] "Are you crazy? Hold it, mate!"
[sniper] "I can't see 'em!"
[spotter] "That's because you forgot your glasses. Told you to bring 'em."
[sniper] "Alrigh, alright! Just tell me what you see."
[spotter] "400 meters, wind 2 knots"
[sniper] "I know they're near. I can practically taste them!"
[spotter] "200 meters, wind 2 knots"
[sniper] "What's it with you and all that knots talk? Jus' tell me the distance!"
[spotter] "100 meters, then. Do you reckon we should crouch now?"
[sniper] "I'm going prone. You stand where you are. I need a bait!"
[spotter] (whispers) "50 m-meters. I'm scared sh!$less, mate!"
[sniper] "Alright, crouch. Any minute now..."
[mine] "BANG"
[enemy]+[spotter] "What the f..."
[sniper] "HEHEHEHEHEHE! GOTCHA!"

;D

rofl!   :-X :-X

 ;D ;D ;D

Nice Art!

If I remember correctly there is also a way to scale the back of the house from the cliff side.  Feel free to correct me if I am thinking of a different mission, but I think you can climb up and enter through an open window and fiberwire old man river for the big silent assassin. :-*

yeah, you can do that. Climb up a water pipe to the roof enter through that window, and do whatever you like to kill the old man.  :)

The pipe to the roof is in the second pic, to the right of that door in the back

*****Spoiler alert, don't read if you haven't completed Hitman: Blood Money*****





You can do something similar during the hotel hit in Vegas, it's one way to access the room of the scientist staying on the top floor, and from his balcony you can shoot the sheik when he steps outside to answer his phone.  That mission is another personal favorite of mine :-X

ok, "spoilers" -- everyone here knows we talk openly about games. We don't consider it spoilers but information, inspiration and the likes. This is open world games, not "oops, sorry, I didn't want to spoil your game! Please Mr Admin, unban me!" ;) Feel free to talk about whatever comes to mind  :-X

oh yeah  ;D Man, I did that mission a million different ways :) My favourite way is to run into the hotel, just grab the keys and call the elevator that the scientist is going to use, wait for him on the roof of the cabin and pull him up. Then I take the other elevator and wait for that Mr Schmutz (translation: Mr Dirt) to do the same. Taking both door cards from them and gain access to both floors by that. For the balcony kill I always bring my W2000 fully upgraded but this time with single shot mechanism so it truly feels like sniping (rather than multiple rounds in a mag). I then bring the rifle outside to the exit, go back and get the diamond case, assemble the rifle to carry in one hand and the diamonds in the other when I do exit ;) I love it... sometimes I kill everyone in the entire casino and hotel, no survivors lol, yeah great mission. They are all cool but the tutorial.

Hah, talking of spoilers = information.

When you have finished the game and see the end credits, wiggle your movement keys, you'll see yourself come back to life! kill all the people that tend your funeral and escape... ALIVE! HitMan5 to cooooommme  :-X

I don't consider anything as a spoiler. If you read walkthrus the way is extremely difficult sometimes. The kill at the opera I accomplished by accessing the stars room when he was practising  and the guard had gone for a whizz. He takes a lot of them so I could sneak in, drop the mine and get out and to the far corner to watch himn walk in the room. Checking the map I was able to detrmine the best  time to rearrange his costume..with holes. The CIA jerk I , dressed as a cop , just accessed the balcony to his right side when an attempt from the scaffolding failed. I picked the lock, walked in, waited for the real guard and gave him an extra eye. I re-suited myself and then sniped  the target as he crouched along the wall. That done I simply walked out of the hotel, with only one or two rounds coming near me.
I ended up as only a thug this time.  Gee, a better job description for the resume.

the opera is best accessible as a cop. In the lobby you'll see a couple of tourists. Follow them, take a tour, until the cop who does the tour needs a break in his little room. Follow him in after a few seconds so he's already sitting with the back turned towards you, then give him a syringe to knock him out and take his clothes :) From now on you can walk everywhere but the stage :)

Yeah Art, the bolt action is the best upgrade for the W2000!

As far as Hitman goes, a spoiler to me is knowing anything at all about a mission before I have attempted it the first time.  If I have pre-knowledge going in (aside from any intel I bought) then I feel like i didn't figure it out myself. I have more relaxed criteria for other games  ;) 

And yes the ending of Blood Money is great, faking your own death in order to have all your enemies in one place at one time, 47 definitely has some brass ones!!!  Imaging how many of those guys would have crapped themselves if something like that really happened! ;D  I'm pretty sure that if a genetically engineered super-assassin who I thought was dead suddenely jumped out of his casket and started shooting the crowd my colon would no longer be under my voluntary control!

LOL  :-X yeah hahah, true  ;D

Just did the Hit the Louse in the House mission.  lol. I went to the back of the truck, boldly went in, knocked them senseless and grabbed a suit. Then I went boldly thru the gate ignoring the hound and entered the basement. After that it was a matter of buying some info (this of course was about the 5th try) to find out where that microfilm is located. I followed the tart into the bathroom and knocked her cold and grabbed the film. After a bit of walking around the different areas I managed to eventually put the mine in the by the louse's 'puter and then set it off with the handy-dandy longer range remote. After the blast I scurried down the back stairs but walked slowly out of the front door and went to the exit.
I finished with the Gangster label and back over 1 mill.

hahaha, nice one, Gord  ;D :-X

Try this: Go to the catering van opposite of the CIA truck when the butler has vanished into the house, pull a syringe and poison those donuts (don't let the guards watch you). The butler will return and bring those donuts to the CIA goofs... watch :) Later, get in the truck and disguise as CIA agent. Like that, you will have lots of fun ;)

You can also wait until the clown comes to get something out the back of his van, syringe him, take his clothes, stuff him in the back of his van and enter that way (only problem is clowns don't carry guns, and you will be searched if you go in through the front door).  Once inside you can "trade places" with the pool boy when he goes out back to the shed.  Dressed as him you will attract the attention of the wife, so on and so forth . . . it's not the easiest road to take, but it is an alternative one

Or, kill/knock out a garbage man, and slip in behind a CIA guy when he enters the left back entrance :)

just realised, that mission has a "secret" I never solved. If you walk into the garage of the vet and enter the medical practice, you'll find a bottle of aether (narcotic). I've never known how to use that. Anyone knows?

If I remember correctly, I believe you can use that to anesthetize the dog that lurks around on the one side of the house so that he doesn't bark and alert everyone if you go over there.  One of the basement entrances is right next to where he stays. If you climb up in the treehouse in the neighbors yard you can use the air rifle to dart the dog and take him out of the equation. 

I found with the dog,twice, that if you just stop and you look like you belong in some way the guard tells him to shut up and he walks back away. He barks but doesn't bite..not a very good guard dog :D

hehe, I usually shot the dog and laughed about the looks on the faces of the guards who did not understand why and how he died :)

My question about the bottle, to be precise, was how exactly do I use it?

I had it in my inventory but could not combine it with anything. Like, take a syringe and you get a crosshair that turns red if you approach something that can be poisoned with it, for example those donuts, wine bottles, people, dogs... but the bottle? It doesn't break if you throw it, and I couldn't use it in any way. Any ideas?

I'm having trouble remembering the specifics in that case . . . I was actually thinking the vet office was where you got the tranquilizers to use on the dog, guess i thought that's what you were refering to  :-[

May have to pull out the 'ole PS2 and refresh my memory  ;)

P.S. - did you guys know that the garbage truck is a bottomless body-disposal?

I know about the garbage truck :) It must have eaten the population of that level thirty times over  ;D

The tranquilizers for the dog... I know there are darts in the vet office, for the dart rifle wich can be found in the tree house with the pirate flag near the garbage truck. But next to those darts there was also a bottle of aether.

Finally got the New Orleans one done after many tries. I followed the diamond case but didn't get the shooters (really have to watch those side windows scenes). Then I tried to get the shooter in the hotel first, failure.. Then the girl  wandering..failure. All I got was my death scene over and over and over again.  Some I didn't even get out the door before being recognized. People scattered like I had dropped and SBD. How embarassing.Then like a rock falling from the cave wall I realized..the little booth in the courtyard would be my sniping spot for the main guy and a henchman or two. Then after  some more tries I finally worked it out. To get  him did some back alley w@&k and dressed as a waiter or someone else I set a bomb at the entrance to the alley the chick was leaving. It took out a couple of others, unfortunate. When the bird guard came out to check I snuck into his bathroom and head shot the girls and him. One girl was in the hall but the door had closed and these cops never came inside. I tried a couple of times to get the guy in the room across the way but kept getting killed after being observed picking  the lock. Well with the guard gone, the girl gone and me on the balcony across ( I noticed he had come out to observe as the float got near, I head shot him. I then calmly walked back to the club dressed as a waiter and pushed my way in drawing the pistol and shooting the jerk that came in trying to bully me. I grabbed his auto and disposed of some more chickens that had come in to roost. I borrowed a suit, got the diamonds and strolled out to freedom. Unfortunately my pic has been in the papers due to my past dirty deeds.  Oh well, I can always go back and start all over..later.

hahahaha, nice story, Gord  ;D Took me some time to figure out which mission (mardi grass) but once I got it, I had to laugh  ;D You know, the game rolls the dice and places the shooters in different locations each time (once you start the mission it is already decided, but the next restart it is very likely they are going to use different locations). Only the boss in the "bird house" remains always there (I usually take him out with a sniper shot from across his window, opposite in the backyard, climb up the pipe to the platform next to the grand piano), and the diamond carrier (orange bird) also always has the same routine (check the backyard next to the cop area, he always has a smoke there next to the dumpster). Check your map, it has several layers, each floor one layer, to see where the targets are (only on easy level). It is a great mission, once you know the tricks, it's fun :)

By the way, go into the library to the right of the bird house (kill the librarian if you must) and go upstairs -- there is a room with a hole in the wall you can see the boss from there... a bomb... ;)

Thanks Art for the tips. That was a fun mission and I realized that the locations did change. It was almost a necessity to keep checking the map to see where everyone was located. Yes I realized thewas done head guy was at the window and I gave him the head shot.  Couldn't resist getting "Chicken a la Bullet" on the side. That was 2 less. As you said checking out the room next to the boss but I didn't think of the bombs. That little room with the guard was a bit tough to figure out but I jumped at the opportunity when he came out to check the shooter. I had gotten her once and killed her in the alley but was caught trying to drag her body to hide when the other chiken came in the alley. The bomb was a thought that came into my head as my death vid was playing  lol. I had saved after the head guys demise so  it was just a matter of 3 or 4 more times getting to the alley without being recognized. Those poor girls with him were collateral damage.

never mind collateral damage, as long as you have fun and survive those little "mishaps"  ;D

Talking of collaterals, one of the pics I posted above is from mardi grass mission... I'll post it again here :)

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Pile 'em high Art!
I guess I was initially confused about whether you meant the darts in the vet office or not.  Don't remember what the ether is for (don't know if I ever knew . . . )

It took me awhile to figure out Mardi Gras too Gord.  Even though locations vary, there is an overall pattern and flow to it, once you get tuned in to that getting a Silent Assassin is just a matter of refining the details and getting a little lucky.  It's a great hit though, and I love the huge crowd that you have to deal with in this one.  That coupled with the fact that many of the buildings themselves are quite detailed with multiple ways in and out really makes this one feel like a real block plucked out of the French quarter on Fat Tuesday! Must have taken forever to program it!!   :-X

Hahaha. Art I really liked your screenshot of the new carpet.  I had one similar in the mission to kill the porn guy and the bad son. I should write down the titles. I had managed to get up to the security room and even get the tape when I was interupted by a red suit. Of course it was when I was trying to drag a body into the stairs that goes to the studio. Well he gets some noisy shots off, I'm using the Silent Silverballer. He goes down and the next guard, and the next, and the next, and you get the pic. ALL the guards on two levels had been killed and the list of "Drag" was 8-12 long. I just left a few in the office as the stairs were full and they kept sliding down. The clean-up crew wasn't gonna get bored. The old guy was dispatched while cowering cuz his guard was among the recently deceased and I had to check a walkthru to see how to get out and discovered that Jr had to be dead but the guards kept getting me. In the walkthru and hints it suggested a round from a silenced weapon thru the hot tub would give the occupants the ride of their short lives. Well the vid of them dropping out of the bottom was cool. The spot was on the outside space at the bottom of the long stairs that started from by the room with the girl that wants to kill you. Yep I fell for it once. I had gone down that stairway to look  ( wrongly) for the way out which I thought was the helipad. I never did get there. Anyway, shortening the story after the shot I went along the ledge to the staff area and then took the elevator back down. The four guards there were short w@&k and I escaped.15 shots 13 kills My noise was 3 and the Violence 3. I'm a Cleaner. I had spent some bribe money to the police on both missions to drop my Notoriety to 75. I was just too good looking not to be noticed. I need some hairpieces. I could get some good disguises with the 1.47 mill in the bank.

hehe, never mind mission names, a few keywords such as porn king or mardi gras unmistakably mark a certain mission.  :)

As for the porn king's son in the pool, I never read a walkthrough or hints collection, but I happened upon that pool accidently. I was down at the peer when I noticed I could look up with some weapon... and I am curious, as you might have noticed, so I shot from down there into the pool's glass bottom, and I was ravished by the display of half a dozen half naked girls washing down the cliff (and Mr Junior amongst them).

Quote from: retiredgord on October 19, 2009, 06:00:23 AM
ALL the guards on two levels had been killed and the list of "Drag" was 8-12 long. I just left a few in the office as the stairs were full and they kept sliding down.

You the new "Drag King"?  ;D And LOL at your story, I love your style (both the hard-a$$ killer and the descriptive writing)  :-X

The start is the difficult part: where do you get a disguise that allows you to enter the VIP area and the porn king's floor? You must not kill innocents if you want to be rewarded silent assassin. Well, use the main elevator, go to the swimming pool (don't break it, hehe) and keep walking on the outside to the next (abandoned) pool. There is a door to the left, go in and go straight, you'll see an opening in the wall at the end of the corridor, which has a waterfall covering the passage to the VIP lounge. The room there is mostly empty and few peeps take a look, they will eventually walk away, so you can take the opportunity to sneak up on the photographer who is sitting at the small pool... drug and drag him back into the hiding, take his clothes... now you are free to go wherever you want, including VIP and porn king photo studio... :)

Oh, the little dog, use a sausage you find in the kitchen, poison it, and drop it on the floor near the elevator, when doggie comes around, he'll eat it and do some funny stunts before he finally croaks. No more barking :)

Journal Entry : No. 47

A knock on the door disturbs my thoughts. I get up reaching for the Silverballer that's already silenced. A second knock puts me in a state of awareness. A voice calls out about a delivery.  I open the door with the gun in my left hand and out of sight. The delivery person offers me an envelope and I notice "Code Red". Now my attention is on full and as the delivery person starts to walk away I call to him about his tip. He says something about that's ok but I insist and point out to the table inside. He walks in and as he turns he's facing the upraised gun and the tip he receives is that of a round. He falls and I put  a second in his body. The Code Red was an indication of trouble. What a way to receive info on a contract.
       I'm to take out Buddy Muldoon the son of the former boat captain and deviate in the Mississippi mission. Also the father of his bride-to-be, one John Leblanc on the island retreat.  Margaux, the daughter and bride, has been brought up in her fathers shadow and runs the business as he is paranoid. The business is not nice. Dysfunctional Family comes to mind. I'm to protect the bride, for some reason, but take out the other two preferably with no real strings and leads. A time for a wedding and two funerals.
I arrived at the island mansion and start to case the place for a change of clothes. My map slows a couple of possibilities in the back room of the building. I go in and admire the view and finally a party-goer comes in to look out the window. I push and knock him out, change clothes and put him in a box. I can now stroll out a bit freer. I head up towards the mansion and stop and watch some boys trading punches beside some dude by a bell. I tire and walk towards the house and get turned away by the guards. I need an invitation. Oops I forgot it and will have to go back and get it. I saunter towards a run down building where I hear some snoring and go in and "borrow" the invite he will not be using now.
      Back up and into the mansion I walk and in wandering I manage to fast pick a lock before I'm noticed by a guard. He follows me and  starts to chase me out but the door has closed and blocked off the room's view. Ooops for the guard, he has his back turned to me. I head but him and knock him out before he can shoot me with his shotgun. I borrow his clothes and start to explore the mansion with impunity
     I see a lot of the mansion in my wanderings, the attic where there are 3 cable holders. On the second is the father in his own little room, locked up from even his guards. Down on the first is the party, the kitchen and some washrooms. A very large spread out house with lots little rooms. This should do just nice. Outside is the area where the father feeds his gators, the family graveyard and the boat house.
     Intel I've bought tells me the groom loves icing. Maybe an additive from a syringe can help him from gaining any more weight. The wedding has taken place and the priest keeps wandering about. Above the piano is a chandelier..just about where those cable holders are located. A plan begins to formulate.
     I decide to do in the father first as he's isolated to the nth degree. I sneak up a back circular staircase and pick the lock holding out his guards, and they are around the corner just yakking. I go in and drop the shotgun to make sure I don't shoot him. I open the door with the poisin syringe handy and approach him He's so befuddled he almost doesn't realize I'm there and when he does he gets the point. One down. I drag him into his little toilet and go back out he way I came in quietly. The guards are unaware.
I walk around and down into the kitchen and when no one is looking I give the cake an injection..something to keep the groom from gaining weight. Now time to wait, and wait, and wait. The dude does not want to eat now. As I saunter around the rooms, like I'm on patrol, I notice the groom spends a lot of time at the piano and as I look up I see that it is under one chandelier.  Oh this will be an enlightening party.
I wander around looking for the priest and find him near a washroom. I punch him out, Lord forgive me, take his clothes and drag him into a back storage area. I go back and leave the shotgun in the washroom, pick up a hollow bible and the key to a swamp boat. These could be handy in many ways. I walk out and up the circular staircase unnoticed and plant a mine on the chandelier clamp, and then walk back down. Groom guy has not yet tasted cake so I guess I'll have to move things along.
Still no taste testing so I go to the door to the outer back and as I turn to look in I grab the detonator and wait for Groom to be by the piano...tickling the ivories. I wait and there he is, a squeeze and BOOM. The chandelier comes crashing down tickling the grooms' ivories. Oops, that was a kinda flat tune. Two down and time to leave. I walk slowly out the back and towards the boathouse. I go in and see one guard right by the dock and can't resist..one shot and I'm outta there. Mission done. 2 kills, 1 shot. Some witnesses to bribe The noise was 3 and violence 0. I'm Gangsta. 520 k for this and up to 1.874 mill.   
Gee my pic shows me with hair and a beard. I'm like a whole new man.

Haha, made me laugh a couple of times :-X Excellent read  ;D

The man you heard snoring, at the start of the mission you'll see him walk in a not so straight line towards that run down building, stop, puke, and go in for a nap. Just wait for that, go in as well, take his invitation and... his clothes  ;D

The icing, you need to be quick about it, the groom will sample it quite early. You can go to the piano room, outside, and to the right through a window inside the kitchen (wait for the waiter to walk out with garbage). Poison the cake and get out quickly again. The groom will drop dead in the kitchen :)

Nice job on the old man. I usually take him out with a silenced headshot from the veranda, to the left ouside of the piano room, there is a wooden box outside (you won't need it) but there you can shoot the old man when he is grieving on that little isle where he feeds the gators. It's kind of a blind angle for the guards, yet be very careful with that.

There is an easter egg. Go to the dancefloor outside next to that tree and the boxing men. Walk right into the middle and wait, just wait. Ignore those people asking you to leave. Wait. Want to dance with that girl who feels sorry for you? Yes, she and you will do a nice square dance :) use 3rd person perspective to get a better view :)

There is one more easter egg. See the couple kissing around a corner, left of the main entrance? Next to the boxers? Walk along the wall of the house to the left and look at the ground right next to the wall. Look for a button on the floor, a very small round plate. If you shoot it, all those boxers will drop their clothes at once  ;D

Oh, you can box too :) they will clap their hands, until you knock a guy out for good. Then they'll shoot you  ;D

Nice to see you posting your stories again, Gord  :-X

Thanks for the compliments. I wasn't going to post any stories until FC2 again but the lead in on this mission just popped right out and said "Write Me, Please!!!" It was such fun. I don't know if the eggs are present in the Xbox format but maybe I'll try this mission when I finish to see if there are some. Thanks for the tidbits to look for for the next play. I think I'll play this a few times more. It has great possibilities.

I am actually quite happy to see how you guys enjoy the game. I didn't think this topic would grow so much, but I had hoped at least one of you would buy it. This game is somehow my 2nd favourite game after FC2 and I play it every once in a while. As you said, "it has great possibilities" = great replay value.  :)

I was surprised as well to see how long this thread has gotten.  I'm pleased to see so many of us have enjoyed, and continue to enjoy this game.  In hindsight, I suppose it shouldn't be so surprising considering what we're all about here at OWG  ;)

Still have not found it on the shelves of any local stores - even during my trip to Texas recently.  Will probably need to find a copy online.

Quote from: PZ on October 21, 2009, 10:40:49 AM
Still have not found it on the shelves of any local stores - even during my trip to Texas recently.  Will probably need to find a copy online.

Hey PZ:

You should look into buying it on Steam. I think it is $9.99 right now and is easy to buy/download through there.

BTW: This is a great game. I am having a blast trying different ways of offing people. ;D

Thanks Hacko, I'll check into it.  After reading and seeing the content in this thread, it sounds like just the kind of game I'll appreciate.  I've been playing A2 and OFP2 lately (and even a bit of BIH:HH) all of which have some form of team command at your disposal.  I kind of like the solitary nature of FC2, and the HitMan game seems to have many of the elements that I appreciate about FC2.  :-X

I know you'll like it, PZ  ;)

I think on Steam they have a deal you can buy three of the Hitman games for one low price. I can't remember which one of the three you get, but if you go to Steam you will see it on there. :-X

I saw that - but I think that Art wrote that the other two were not that good.

well, I'd buy them just to get the good one, if it was a bundle containing HM:BM that is, and if I couldn't get it anywhere else.

Quote from: Art Blade on October 22, 2009, 11:20:23 AM
well, I'd buy them just to get the good one, if it was a bundle containing HM:BM that is, and if I couldn't get it anywhere else.

They sell them seperate too. ;D

Quote from: Hacko on October 22, 2009, 12:34:50 PM
They sell them seperate too. ;D

PZ...


GO GET IT

;D

 ;) :-X

I wouldn't totally write off the other two games either.  Granted they will seem more dated than Blood Money, but they each have a significant contribution to the overall story, and there is a chronolgy that is established as well that helps you keep the story of Blood Money in perspective.  Worth at least a playthrough in my opinion.  ;)

I second that. Basically I did exactly that, play the older games so I could get the whole picture, and the missions were great even if controlling your character and graphics were "not optimal" compared with today's standards :)

Cool - the package it is then - the price is so reasonable it would be a shame not to spend the extra equivalent of a happy meal.  None of the HitMan series was available at the local store, but I did see the collection of Medal of Honor games for $20.  I'm also playing Brothers in Arms on the PS3 and would like to get the entire series - it has been a fun experience to go through the game again.

Having just finished the kill of the DNA character, the Sheik and the other nefarious person with some money I thought I'd post my mission.
I started by getting the room key and (after several attempts of various strategies) managing to strangel the 8th floor dude . I then exited the elevator and went to my room on the 7th and stored the suitcase. I then went to retrieve the rifle using a different elevator with the idea to snipe the dude on my floor but that wouldn' get me the DNA.  After a few more false starts I was abale to melee knock him out and drag him back into his room, poisining him and obtaining his key and the DNA and again back to my room via the balcony hall  and stored that case. I couldn't figure a way up to the 8th so a check on a walkthru told me about the lattice on the balcony. Ha ha I had a way. I went up to set off the fire alarm to get the pay guys cell to phone the Sheik and he would come out to a couryard in rifle sight below. However, I wanted a good shot on him so I had to off his guards that were still waiting for him. I did that by tripping the alarm and popping them all when they came back. Now I had that nice view all to myself.
I went back down and snuck the sniper rifle up to the 8th and into the room. So two out of three are dead and the alarm level hadn't been raised. Now don't get me wrong , this is after quite a few tries that this plan was developed. I wanted the shot to come from the 8th floor room and have no conncection to me. So I phone the Sheik, pop out to the balcony and put a nice round in him. Third down and out. I then snuck back down to my room, stored the rifle and a gun or two, left the DNA and walked out with the payment. I went down and thru the Casino and out the door to the car.
This was an interesting level to play. The info marked is not always readily apparent at first. I don't mind checking when I'm REALLY  stuck and unable to advance. The walkthrus are still just a guide as being somewhat skeptical I find that they are not always as easy as described

hehe Gord :) I like that level a lot...

Find a walkthrough for that level? Just go a few posts back (http://openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?topic=664.msg15873#msg15873)  ;D (actually, one before that has got the hint about the balcony in it)

By "pulling" someone up I mean strangle him from the hatch on top of the elevator cabin and automatically pull him out of the cabin. So you and the body are on the outside of the cabin, on top of it on the roof... you can leave the stuff there. Use both elevators. You'll see the guests arrive, first that scientist, take him out in one elevator, change elevators and go up onto that cabin roof... take out Schmutz... all you need to do is kill the guards infront of the Scientist's room or use the fire alarm to run past them into that room... bit tricky to get out unnoticed... you can wait for the only guard who enters the room after the alarm and use anesthetics on him. Then leave the room through the balcony again... but there are witnesses in the room you jump to the balcony there... and the waiter smoking a cig one floor below... :) it is a nice challenge  ;D

The strangle part  got me "killed" the first few times. I forgot that the cut scence would do  it for you and I jumped down inside the cab to do it.  Well when the door opens there is the cop, and a guard and they just start shooting for no real good reason. I tried to fight my way out but just too many rounds. In usijng the balcony and the lattice to climb up I had to go opposite of the balcony I wanted to avoid the dude watching his tv in the room next to the target. I was spotted by him the first time and shot..RELOAD. It did take numerous tries and strategic saves to finally get the scenario I finally came up with  at last.  Yes good fun.

the elevator strangling works in many missions. you go ontop of the cabin, stay outside and out of view until the cabin doors are closed (no external witness) then aim your piano cord until you see the strangle option, this will make 47 pull the victim up and onto the floor you are standing on, this is a kill and a removal of the body. In the Casino level you need to be quick, after the doors closed, take the victim out but stay there on top. When the doors open again, the cops see nothing... except when one victim drops its suitcase. In this case, first get the room key (allows you to access that floor) and then jump into the cabin before the doors open. Like that, you get the suitcase before the cops take it away and they won't bother you because you have a valid access card in your pocket (room key of the scientist).

Sorry to interrupt the flow of tips here, but I just wanted to announce that I'm now a new addition to the Hitman cadre (Coven? Cartel? what do you call an association of hitmen? Maybe "Hits R Us") ;D
I've barely gotten into it so far, but it looks like a ripper! I'm reassured by the knowledge that if (when) I get stuck anywhere, there's a wealth of tips and tricks to draw on here, thanks to OWG's considerable pool of talent and experience. And of course there's Gord's terrific story telling for inspiration.
I'm happy to be here - as long as I don't have to have a barcode tattooed on the back of my head to gain acceptance...  ;D

hahaha, no worries about barcodes, lol  ;D And wo-hoo, this is great how many of us now have this game and enjoy it :)  :-X

fragger thanks for the compliments. No you don't need to tattoo your head but you may have to have short or no hair..like me.  lol

hey retiregord, how's it going? :) Any funny episodes to share? (at least, games-wise, hehe)

You can count me in as soon as I find something else that I want to purchase online so that I can get free shipping.  :-X

something else? if you like FO3 already, you could risk The Elder Scrolls IV, Oblivion. That's about the same game engine (prior, though) with elements of FPS and RPG... was addictive for months  ;D

Quote from: retiredgord on October 28, 2009, 07:34:44 PM
No you don't need to tattoo your head but you may have to have short or no hair..like me.  lol

;D ;D ;D

No worries, Gord, I'm getting there... Let's just say I have less and less need for a comb these days ;D

lol you guys are funny  ;D :-X

@ fragger, it's really annoying when the longest hair you have is in your nose or ears   ;D ;D ;D ;D
@ Art..I'm currently about to write out the Dance with the Devil mission.

I reckon that's the party mission with heaven and hell sections? If so, cool...  :-X

I was just thinking about the long story up a few posts, with the wedding. When you start that level or mission, you are next to a couple of people on a wooden peer of sorts, they shoot aligators for fun. If you watch the water, you can see those aligators... Ever thought about feeding them? :)

You can drop dead men (or, if you want to be extra nice to those gators, living men) into the water (if they are alive, push them from behind so they fall into the water). Wait a little... then you can watch some of those carnivores performing the submarine act: Diving, surfacing... and killing. They do it properly: A wild fight or rip-apart movement in the water, they twist and turn around, water splashing, then silence and a reptile with a need for a better diet.  :)

Wow nice Art, i don't remember that part at all, but it has been a while since i've seriously played it. Can't wait to come across that :).

 ;D One of the best games I ever played. Enjoy, mate  :-X

Quote from: Art Blade on December 13, 2009, 03:08:40 PM
... They do it properly: A wild fight or rip-apart movement in the water, they twist and turn around, water splashing, then silence and a reptile with a need for a better diet.  :)

That would be funny to see  :-()

it is, done it a couple of times.. I once fed about everyone from the list of invited guests to them. Those alligators should have been the size of pregnant whales but they remained fit and slim.  :)

Going back to the hit on the mobster-turned-rat...The ether you find in the vets' house across the street has a rather unique use.

On the second floor of the mobsters house, there is an FBI agent that "patrols" from a bedroom across the hall from where the mobster goes, out into the hallway. If you go in the bedroom to the far right as you are coming up the stairs, you'll find a walk-in closet that is shared with the bedroom that FBI agent goes in and out of.

The Fibbie is a pervert - the bedroom he goes in and out is the teen-aged daughters' room, and every time he goes in there he sniffs her panties. By looking through the keyhole, you can watch him do this, and when he goes out into the hall, dash in and use the ether on the panties. The next time he takes a big whiff, it's nap time. You can watch this through the keyhole too. Then drag him into the walk-in closet to stash him.

My favorite way to do this mission is to knock out everyone in the whole neighborhood, including the wife - you don't have to kill her to get the microdot from the necklace.

You do have to kill the rat, of course, but you can save him for last, knock him out and drag him into the pool - one accidental death, no witnesses, Silent Assassin rating.

The White House one is tough, but once I figured out if you time it right, you can grab the Marine Honor Guard on the right as you face the WH and drag him around the corner to knock him out, do a quick clothing change and grab the rifle before the other guard finishes his longer march to the end of the building, it was much easier.

I love that game so much that I still have it installed.. 

Nice stories  :-X

I particularly liked the one about killing the rat "accidentally"  :-()

Didius, thanks a LOT for mentioning and telling about the use of that ether flask. I never knew how to use it.. nice one  ;D :-X

Yes indeed, nice one  :-X

Excellent tip, Didius :-X That's priceless - and poetic!

So you can play this game as an FPS?? Why was I not informed? ;D I have not, until looking at Art's pics in this thread, ever seen an image from HMBM in a first person view. Virtually all the official trailers and pics are third person. ::)

Anyway,  my trademark is always a day late, or in this case, about 5 years late, but i found it and ordered from Amazon for $8.95, so looking forward to a cool new(to me) bargain game!  :-X This will be a nice change from playing FC2 yet again, and since i got heavily into the STALKER series, (Just finished SoC and loved it) i just havent been able to convince myself to revisit FO/FONV.

 ;D

Still one of the best games ever, and it is still installed on my rig :)

Nice. :-X Art, im lazy, do you happen to know if there's any official patches that i should look for when i install?

I'm lazy, too  :-() So my answer is no, not that I'm aware of. But.. I'll take a quick look at what google comes up with :)

And yes, a patch 1.2 popped up, here's the link

http://www.eidos.co.uk/support/search.html?gmid=172 (http://www.eidos.co.uk/support/search.html?gmid=172)

Thx Art,  :-X

welcome, have fun  :)

Quote from: Art Blade on June 10, 2009, 08:12:48 PM
I might add, you can toggle 1st person and 3rd person view at any time :)

I thought Hitman games were third prson shooter but when I look at your screenies, I was confused because you played it from first person view. I was about to ask you for clarification but this post cleared my confusion. This is excellent since I like the concept of Hitman series but I didn't like TPS, now that I know it's can be play from FP view I'll probably pick Blood Money up for... Xbox (no PS3 version available).
:)

It wouldn't surprise me if Eidos followed the trends set by a lot of other publishers in the last few years and did an HD re-release of the old games in the months leading up to Absolution - at least, I hope they follow the trend  :-D

:) Ninzza, that reminds me.. Ricamundo commented on the FPS aspect. Sometimes  there is a glitch that makes the screen go all milky, I believe it happens when you have a weapon with a scope at the ready, particularly the silver baller. Apparently the camera for FPS is placed inside the scope and merged with the lens. However, as you can tell by looking at my screenshots, it doesn't have to be that way.  :)

 You have new avatar  :)

Yes.  :) Duke Nukem (Forever)  :-()

So that's where it comes from - I like the variety you are displaying.  :-X

Cheers  :) By the way, I don't recognise your latest avatar, PZ. What/Who is it?

It's one of the FC2 art w@&k if I'm not mistaken...

ahhh.  :)