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I just finished playing an hour or so of COD5 and captured a few images - low resolution - the in game is much nicer:

Berlin in 1944 is a ruined city
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As a sniper, you have unlimited number of victims, they are so numerous.  Notice that you need to hold the shift key to steady your aim, else your heartbeat will interfere with the shot.
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Of course, a flame thrower is an awesome weapon
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... as is attested to by these victims
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I wonder what this place looked like under better circumstances...
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Yeah, I think I'll pick this up finally. Just got a $5 coupon from Best Buy so I'll use it towrds that. Funny thing, back in December I was out to buy a game, either FC2 or COD5. Best Buy had COD5 but I couldn't find FC2, I wanted to compare prices. Asked a guy and he went in the back and got me a copy of FC2, so that was the one I got, price was the same. The rest, as they say, is history.

Just my luck, now when I go to pick it up, they won't have a copy.

I don't think big games such as CoD series vanish from the shops easily. I can still buy CoD4 and even CoD2 in some shops :) Good luck, D_B

Here are a couple more fighting the Japanese on a South Pacific island.  The lighting at night is spectacular and reminds me of the old Howard Hawks John Wayne movie sets (e.g., El Dorado) where everything is well-lit so you can easily see everything.

Check out the hate on this guy's face...
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On very interesting thing is that the enemy can reacy their gun over the top of cover so that they remain safe
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... and of course, I couldn't resist: "Blast 'im..."
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haha, blast him...

You know what's really strange... WWII shooters that play in Germany... we here in Germany never see a single swastika in games like these, but the games are perfectly legal (if the goal of them is not glorification of the third reich, or simply excessive violence [as most certainly Prototype will end up either censored heavily or even banned]). Usually they replace swastikas with something that has the same colours (red, white, and black) or maybe flags show our old Reichsadler (imperial eagle) instead. The swastika is forbidden by law, except when used in any form of art (movies count as such) or shown in a documentary; PC games are not being recognised as one of those.

That's really interesting Art, I didn't know that...I love the international side of OWG, makes me learn more than just about video games.

As for games being censored, do they really have a "cleaner" version of games?

Yes. We have some authorities that check if games are suitable or not. If they are, they get rated like "age 6+" up to "18+" or "not rated." If the latter happens, the game is virtually out of the game (market) because it is similar to "18+" which is limiting the number of potential buyers, especially if the game isn't an adult game. It can happen because the game devs/producers are not forced to have it rated by that authority, it's voluntary. Which means, you have to pay a considerable amount of money to have it rated.

So, if a producer sends it in for evaluation, the authorities may tell them "like this it's going to be rated 18" (allowing the producers to reduce level of violence or gore and try again) or "we're going to put it on 'index' (a black list, games on it are not allowed to be advertised or shown in a shelf of a shop, yet they may be sold - problem would be, nobody knows the game exists. Some vendors confuse "indexed" with "banned" which is something else). If a game enters the marked without being rated, at any time any game can be reported to the authorities so they can check if the game is excessively violent, glorifying violence, violating basic rights, racist, nazi, or else. The game may then be rated or indexed or banned entirely.

I've seen games where humanoid opponents had been replaced with robots, and their blood with oil. Another fun game, I forgot the name, got it on my other pc somewhere, is a race game where you crash a lot, like stock car racing etc. It has the drivers replaced with rag dolls used for crash tests, so called dummies (and they even have the marks on their bodies like those crash dummies). In games like FEAR they removed the blood. Often, very common, is deactivating rag doll in games, rendering dead people a block of wood the shape of a body so limbs won't move any more. Also often as in FO3, they disable body parts being shot off (like FC2, the body stays intact even if you blow it up).

Does that answer your questions?  ;D

That's why I try to buy those games outside of Germany.

Well, i bought the game, but it won't run. Gets to the logo screen a bbbzzzzzziittttttt back to desktop. hmmmm.... patch anyone? lol

I had an issue with punkbuster - needed to be installed by one of the modules.  I didn't want to do that so rather than letting autorun start the program, I went to the root and started via the application executable.  Don't know it that will w@&k for you, but it is worth a try.

Quote from: Dweller_Benthos on June 22, 2009, 01:04:03 PM
Well, i bought the game, but it won't run. Gets to the logo screen a bbbzzzzzziittttttt back to desktop. hmmmm.... patch anyone? lol

Ah, I hate it when they do that. Quite rare, fortunately. I don't recall having installed patches for CoD5 (have you checked their website yet?) but the first idea that springs to mind is good old vid driver or DirectX issues. DirectX usually isn't problematic in my experience once you got the newest version, but vid drivers can be a royal pain in the back. Hope you get it sorted out, good luck D_B

Got the latest patches, needed two ~500MB patches (1.2 & 1.4) to get it to run, then, don't you know it? The sound doesn't w@&k. Apparently, a fairly common issue going by the number of google hits for it. Nothing I found applies to my situation, except for maybe new sound card drivers, which I just downloaded, give it another try tonight. Vid card drivers are already up to date, as is Windows update.

Haven't had this much trouble with a game since the DOS days.

Quote from: PZ on June 18, 2009, 05:48:37 PM
Here are a couple more fighting the Japanese on a South Pacific island.  The lighting at night is spectacular and reminds me of the old Howard Hawks John Wayne movie sets (e.g., El Dorado) where everything is well-lit so you can easily see everything.

Check out the hate on this guy's face...
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On very interesting thing is that the enemy can reacy their gun over the top of cover so that they remain safe
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... and of course, I couldn't resist: "Blast 'im..."
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I have this for the 360, had about 10-12 hrs of game play.

That South Pacific Island had to have been either Makin or Tulagi....most likely Carlson's raid on Makin since the Tulagi campaign lasted months..  :D

or I could have read the wiki  :-[
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty_5#Plot

I believe I captured those shots at the beginning of the game, but unfortunately I do not remember what the island was called - I'm sure that you're probably correct.  :-X

I watched the movie Gung Ho! with Randolph Scott after I played the game. This was about the Makin Island raid and the game matched up pretty well.

Movie was made in 1943 not long after the raid. I recommend it if you like war flicks... :-X

I love war movies.  Among my favorites are "Von Ryan's Express" with Frank Sinatra, "The Longest Day" with an all-star cast, and a great one called "The Train" with a young Burt Lancaster.  Oh, and who can forget the old "Combat" series with Vic Morrow.  Other greats include "Tora, Tora, Tora", "Midway", "The Heroes of Telemark", "The Guns of Navarone" and so many more...

I watched the complete Combat series last summmer using my Netflix account.

What really blew me away was I recognized some of the areas they were filming at. The apple orchards around Sebastapol and the vineyards at the Korbel winery. Had cousins that lived near Guerneville so we were up there a lot in the summer....

http://www.jodavidsmeyer.com/combat/personnel/korbel-pictures.htm

salute!  :)

You didn't mention Steven Spielberg's mini-series "Band of Brothers" (9.6/10 with 62,455 votes on imdb) and the re-edited film (I think 2.5 hours long) "The Big Red One - The Reconstuction" (1980/2004) with Lee Marvin starring. It's rated not that high (7.3/10 but only 5,798 votes, indicator for "not widely known")

Great pics of the crew at the Korbel winery, Kingrat - I had no idea.  I purchased the DVD set from amazon.com because they had a killer deal - regular $269 for the complete series on sale for $129.

Oh yeah, how could I forget "Band of Brothers" - the theme for another game I kind of like: "Brothers in Arms: Hells Highway" set in Operation Market Garden!

Yeah, Band of Brothers was excellent. I have Dick Winters book Beyond Band of Brothers.....I have all the BiA games also :-X

I like scifi too, and just finished watching the LEXX series  :)

haha, I've got all seasons from Babylon 5 which I loved oh so very much.  :)

Quote from: Art Blade on July 01, 2009, 10:15:06 AM
haha, I've got all seasons from Babylon 5 which I loved oh so very much.  :)

Me Too  :) I have everything related to B5 including some of the books...reading The Passing of the Techno-Mages right now :-X

back to the war....The Rat Patrol  :-X :-X to bad Chris George died so young.

PC games, FC2, Movies, Books, Sci-Fi... B5... You would be close to an invitation to discuss all that over dinner, if you were a woman and younger ;D  ;D ;D

I love the Rat Patrol - purchased the DVD set a year or two ago, but have not had the chance to watch it much.

Quote from: Art Blade on July 01, 2009, 12:57:08 PM
PC games, FC2, Movies, Books, Sci-Fi... B5... You would be close to an invitation to discuss all that over dinner, if you were a woman and younger ;D  ;D ;D

LoL  :) a lot younger  ;)

at least I can applaud you to all that  ;) :-X

Quote from: Dweller_Benthos on June 24, 2009, 06:32:46 AM
Got the latest patches, needed two ~500MB patches (1.2 & 1.4) to get it to run, then, don't you know it? The sound doesn't w@&k. Apparently, a fairly common issue going by the number of google hits for it. Nothing I found applies to my situation, except for maybe new sound card drivers, which I just downloaded, give it another try tonight. Vid card drivers are already up to date, as is Windows update.

Haven't had this much trouble with a game since the DOS days.

I believe I had the same trouble with this game, I am pretty sure it was this game. Here is the solution I had to do to get it to w@&k:

Go into control panel
Then Sound
Then Playback device tab
Choose Playback device (eg. Realtek High Def Audio)
Click Properties
Advanced Tab
Change Default sample rate format to 24 bit, 48000 hz (Studio Quality)

Below is a screenshot of what the panel looks like (In Vista)
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It took me awhile to find this fix. Like I said, I THINK this is the fix for this game, in my older age, I may be getting it confused with another game. ;D Hopefully this helps. :-X

nice pic  ;D

I think you used that PrntScrn key to capture the entire desktop. If you have one window in focus (speakers properties) and only need that, hit ALT+PrntScrn. Then you'll get a screenshot of only that window resulting in a much smaller pic (also, if you're in the office, you don't reveal your entire desktop) :)

Quote from: Art Blade on July 02, 2009, 12:49:37 PM
nice pic  ;D

I think you used that PrntScrn key to capture the entire desktop. If you have one window in focus (speakers properties) and only need that, hit ALT+PrntScrn. Then you'll get a screenshot of only that window resulting in a much smaller pic (also, if you're in the office, you don't reveal your entire desktop) :)

Thanks Art, I can never remember that hot key for cropped screenies. :-X

welcome, Hacko :) I remember it so well because my colleagues keep asking me how I did "that small screenshot again" LOL

Yeah, I saw that fix on the web, but it doesn't apply to win XP. Eventually, re-installing the game and the latest sound card & video drivers fixed it. I've been away for a week's vacation, and honestly, didn't even miss it. I'm somewhere in the middle of the game at this point, don't even really remember.....

Quote from: Dweller_Benthos on July 13, 2009, 11:04:24 AM
Yeah, I saw that fix on the web, but it doesn't apply to win XP. Eventually, re-installing the game and the latest sound card & video drivers fixed it. I've been away for a week's vacation, and honestly, didn't even miss it. I'm somewhere in the middle of the game at this point, don't even really remember.....

Glad you got it worked out. The SP is pretty short. Was kinda dissapointed in it, but was fun using the flame thrower and other weapons. Plus playing aganst the Japanese was great too. Banzai!!!!!!!

While playing the game, press ~ to display the console window. Type "devmap  mak" and press [Enter] to enable cheat mode. Then, type one of the following  codes at the console window and press [Enter] to activate the corresponding  cheat function:  Map names  Use one of the following values with the "map [map name]" if  you don't intend to use cheats or "devmap  [map name]" code if you intend to use the cheats:     

Mission	Code
Semper Fi	mak
Little Resistance	pel1
Hard Landing	pel2
Vendetta	sniper
Their Land, Their Blood	see1
Burn 'Em Out	pel1a
Relentless	pel1b
Blood & Iron	see2
Ring Of Steel	ber1
Eviction	ber2
Black Cats	pby_fly
Blowtorch And Corkscrew	oki2
Breaking Point	oki3
Heart of the Reich	ber3
Downfall	ber3b
Nacht der Untoten	nazi_zombie_prototype

• Hardcore Team Deathmatch mode: Reach Level 13 to unlock Hardcore Team Deathmatch mode.
• Veteran mode: Reach Level 32 to unlock Veteran mode, which is a Co-op mode with much  tougher enemies.
• Zombie mode: Successfully complete Campaign mode to unlock Zombie mode, which is a  four-player Co-op mode against endless waves of Nazi zombies.

thanks for the cheat codes :)

hehe, it is funny to see how you start liking them. Apparently it's D_B, you and me, who really like cheats :) I still try to accomplish games once without any, but then... no stopping me.  ;)

My pleasure - I like the cheats in all of the games (trainers too), because it lets me get in and go once through to see how it goes.  Especially in games like COD5 where the mission progression is linear, you can skip to maps that you prefer, even if you have not completed the prior ones.  I also like to have my weapons of choice right from the start rather than having to "find" them.  Besides, I suck so bad at shooting, I need all the help I can get!  ;D

hahaha, the only thing important is having fun. If it involves cheats, hell, why not :) I sometimes find games overly hard or partly boring/longbreathed - that's when cheats help. And yes, exploring... remember how D_B got over the barriers in FC2 end game and boldly walked around where no man had ever been before... of course, weapons. Sometimes silly, really, when you get nice weapons about the time the game ends. I too like to start with them, rather than end with them :)

Cheats are great in singleplayer, like you guys said. But keep them away from MP games, it ruins them. I know you guys don't use them, but it is frustrating playing with people who use them online.

I was accused of cheating on a FC2 MP server last night while playing. I was hiding in a building, sniping people, and an enemy saw me and came in the building. He shot at me with his automatic weapon, I shot at him with my pistol. Neither one of us died, and he left the building to reload. He then accused me of cheating through the in-game chat menu. He said he shot me a few hundred times. As I was replying, he came back in and stabbed me with the machette. I told him, see I can die, now stop accusing me of cheating, and shoot better next time. I then called him an asshat and logged off.

The point to this long story is cheating in multiplayer ruins the experience. The people who use them make playing the game unfair and boring. And the users like me who don't cheat, get accused of cheating when playing well or not dying because the other guy thought he killed me.

I also get accused of cheating alot in online games because of my nickname....Hacko. It's based on my real last name, not because I am hacking. What dumb hacker would deliberately have the name Hack in his nickname. :D


Anywho....cheats in singleplayer are great. ;D

I know exactly what you mean. I never ever cheat during MP. But I'm so fed up with MP and being called a cheater, bot, hax0r, noob etc that I basically quit MP. Bloody stupid kids. They probably can't imagine someone being actually good because they know about cheats (probably already using them or would like to if they knew how to). And what you experienced there (forcing you to chat and then take advantage of that, stabbing you) really is one of the lowest and cheapest behaviours I ever heard of. Incredible.

What you two said is exactly what I've read about on all forums.  If you are good, you're a cheater.  If you're new to the game then you're a "noob".  On either end of the spectrum, it is not much fun.

Hacko, have you tried DKM2's FC2 MP server?  He reports that it seems to be populated with a reasonable sort.

Quote from: PZ on August 02, 2009, 12:32:36 PM
What you two said is exactly what I've read about on all forums.  If you are good, you're a cheater.  If you're new to the game then you're a "noob".  On either end of the spectrum, it is not much fun.

Hacko, have you tried DKM2's FC2 MP server?  He reports that it seems to be populated with a reasonable sort.

Yes, I have tried his server a few times, and it is my first choice of the servers. When I got on last night, it was pretty late (10 pm pacific) and no one was on that server, so I tried another public player server.

PZ, your logic is right, assuming you'd only be called "noob" (newbie) if you are behaving like a beginner. As if it isn't bad enough to be called noob when you are new, the term has become a general insult. So, if you do something that annoys one of those kids, like winning, they'd call you a noob, too. Or if you are good so they assume you cheat, which also is "noob." What I hate if some kids manage to once in a lifetime shoot you and then call it "pwnage" or "pwned." That term originates from Ownage/to Own, and it simply was a typo... P is right next to O... but it became 1337 to use that expression. 1337 (pronounced leet) comes from elite. Now, when you simply want to play, and are good at it, it is really a mess with those kids on a server, full of newspeak and crap, and insults and cheats... bah.

So, it sure is a great job of DKM2 keeping his server in shape  :-X

Well the funny thing is that I was playing MP some time ago just to experience it and had no idea what the terms you just mentioned meant.  Playing in ignorant bliss, I guess.  In any case, what some youngster who likely doesn't even have a drivers license "thinks" (if you can call what they do thinking) is entirely inconsequential to me.  ;)

PS: thanks for the definitions - I always wondered how those terms originated, and likely the pwnage misspelling is from one of those genius kids  ;D

Here is a little cartoon movie about some of those immature gamers. It is real funny. ;D

http://www.pwned.nl/ (http://www.pwned.nl/)

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hahaha, good one Hacko - there is justice sometimes - the would-be hacker received his just desserts.

That kid kind of reminded me of Eddie Haskell (whenever he was not within ear-shot of parents)

Speaking of cheats, there's a funny easter egg at the start of the Peleliu Island mission in CoD5 SP (On PC, don't know if it works on consoles):
Once you've gotten ashore after calling in the rocket barrage, head to the end of the beach to your right. You'll find a shell crater full of water. Starting from the right edge of the crater (looking from the sea), walk through it towards the other end of the beach. Keep going, you'll find two more small craters as you progress along the beach, one with water, one is dry. Walk through both of these. Keep going, but angle back towards the sea, and you'll find one more water-filled crater at the end of the beach near the water.  When you reach this one, just keep standing in it. After about 10-15 seconds, the screen will shake, a weird god-like voice pipes up, and a bunch of stone idols will rear up out of the sand. Walk up to any of them, and you'll get a bonus - a Flash Gordon-style ray gun! You can only keep it for that mission, and it will run out of "ammo" after a while if you keep using it - but it's fun, and it makes a great sound!  :)

Quote from: Hacko on August 02, 2009, 05:54:24 PM
Here is a little cartoon movie about some of those immature gamers. It is real funny. ;D

http://www.pwned.nl/ (http://www.pwned.nl/)

;D

Man... the ending is just scarry... disturbing  :D

Great Easter egg story fragger - I still play COD5 on occasion, and I'll load up that mission to give it a try  :-X

That does sound like a cool easter egg, I'll have to try that as well. I just finished the game last night and all I can say is I finished it. Wasn't bad, but wasn't really good either. The Nazi Zombie levels are fun though, and more fun I'm sure in coop mode if it supports that, since it's kinda tough by yourself. Can't get more than four rounds before I die.

Quote from: JRD on August 03, 2009, 07:33:47 AMMan... the ending is just scarry... disturbing  :D

Agree... kind of totally insane, the entire vid for my taste.

Well that was a very interesting start. The game is kinda like Medal of Honor, somewhat linear but still is enjoyable. I guess it's based somehat on the war as actually happened. Anyway I found the hardest part was the part against the Japanese when you have to take out the bunker by calling in a rocket strike. Got to push up daisies there quite a few times. I got thru the Russian intro to sniping..that was interesting. Got a good head shot about the 5th try.  The board I left off on today was about the capture of the airfield and the follow-up at holding against the Japanese troops. It was cool. I've got two trophies so far. I'm looking forward to completing the game and then starting back in on FC2.

I put your post here, Gord, since we already had a similar topic (this one) :)

You might consider Wolfenstein when you can get a good price Gord.  I've played both and they w@&k in much the same way (same company) so you will already be accustomed to the controls.  For me, Wolfenstein is even more enjoyable because you really need to think about how to accomplish tasks.  There have already been a couple where I have needed to consult a walk-through in order to get through an area.

Quote from: PZ on June 30, 2009, 11:42:13 PM
I love war movies.  Among my favorites are "Von Ryan's Express" with Frank Sinatra, "The Longest Day" with an all-star cast, and a great one called "The Train" with a young Burt Lancaster.  Oh, and who can forget the old "Combat" series with Vic Morrow.  Other greats include "Tora, Tora, Tora", "Midway", "The Heroes of Telemark", "The Guns of Navarone" and so many more...

One I realy liked,   "To Hell And Back"  the Autobiograhpy of the actor Audy Murphy, I saw it during my early teens, downloaded it a while back and still liked it.

Quote from: nexor63 on November 16, 2010, 04:02:55 AM
...One I realy liked,   "To Hell And Back"  the Autobiograhpy of the actor Audy Murphy, I saw it during my early teens, downloaded it a while back and still liked it.

Audie Murphy was the recipient of the United State's highest military decoration, The Medal of Honor.

I get the impression this is one of those low budget games, or the developers ran out of ideas.   :-\
A few times I got shot and killed by unseen enemies, and the ones you do see are so far and small that they completely blocked out by your rifle sights and by the time you managed to kill him you emptied at least one magazine.   ????
We were working our way towards a checkpoint when suddenly a bunch of enemy soldiers popped out from the grass, caught by surprise I was killed. after reloaded from the last save point I carefully approached the area where these soldiers caught us by surprise    8)
I spotted them in the grass and as any worth his salt soldiers supposed to do I opened fire on them, nothing happened????   then I realised that I have to reach an invisible line before they would become alive and jump us    ::)   

Unfortunately it is strictly a corridor kind of game with significant limitations imposed by the invisible elements.  While it can be kind of fun the first time through, you have to do it their way.  I may be a bit biased though, because I adore WWII games - I wish there were more that were graphically as nice, yet open world.

I also love WWII games as much as I love the movies, but I thought the developers of COD would have improved their games by now, i'm playing on easy and so far pushed up more Daisies than in the entire MOH and FC2 combined, anyway I will finish it......... :-\\

ow. Any chance to keep fighting "underground" -- while you're at it? Would save you the trouble of getting burried and exhumed all the time. :-D

hey!!! that's an idea   :lamp:  getting killed all the time is hell on my digestive system on account of all the lead I have to swollow     ::)

that qualifies you for submarine deployment. The lead will keep you from surfacing.  :-()

and rusting