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Title: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on September 22, 2013, 05:55:21 AM
I couldn't find out what it is, probably some local L.A. slang. My best guess is, "location," but I really have no clue.

Anyone? :)
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: mandru on September 22, 2013, 06:31:07 AM
Some context of where you encountered the term might help.  ????

SPID is Server Process ID.  That term has something to do with SQL (Structured Query Language) or at least SQL pops up when I Google SPID.

SPID:NOT as an SQL response would appear to mean that an expected identifier is either not in the appropriate language or that the identified object does not comply with the expected protocol.


Beyond that if someone called you a spidnot at a bar or because you'd stepped on their foot I'd suspect that you'd been insulted.  ;)
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on September 22, 2013, 07:14:27 AM
Hehe, thanks :)

ok, it's not computer-related (hey, seriously, I wouldn't suggest L.A. slang for that sort of stuff  :-() ) and of course I had googled, metacrawled, wiki'd and checked the urban dictionary which is usually the best source for all kinds of weird slang stuff, but in the end I came up empty-handed. So.. if nothing helps, OWG usually does  ;)

Some black gang guys in L.A. were looking for a house because they wanted to boost two cars located there, asked directions, found it, and then said, "this the spidnot right here." I know it's spelled like this because I read the subtitles.

So.. could be "target" or "location" or something like that, but I couldn't quite get it. It looks as if it could be "speed not" but I don't think so.. stealing fast sports cars would be quite the opposite. So here's the mystery.. what the hell is it?  :)

But I think I got it. It's most likely "spot" -- with an extra syllable. They have that slang thingy in L.A. adding "ee" sounds like "-iz-", transforming words such as strech -> strizech. or, can't -> kizan't, or self -> sizelf

OK, done, unless anyone can prove me wrong  :-D
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Binnatics on September 22, 2013, 08:43:21 AM
I think, trying to adapt any type of slang in my brain, that it would mean something like "place not to spit on" or where people meet to "spit together" as in a "spit-knot". So it should indicate the place where several "spitting" people have arranged a meeting point ore whatever type of agreement.

Hope this cleared the mystery a bit 8)
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: PZ on September 23, 2013, 09:07:17 AM
No idea, however an anagram might be "Do Pints"  >:D  :angel:
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: mandru on September 23, 2013, 09:45:22 AM
With the additional context I believe you are right Art in that it's probably "This is the spot..."
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on September 23, 2013, 11:18:59 AM
thanks, mandru. :) With this thingy, adding syllables to random words, it might also explain why we kizan't find it anywhere  :-D
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Binnatics on September 23, 2013, 11:46:28 AM
Fo' Shizzle my Nizzle :-() :)
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on September 23, 2013, 12:11:28 PM
Shizzle nizz nazzel minizzel. Feel me? A'ight, gotcha, dog.


Damn. What has become of this language..
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on September 23, 2013, 01:03:16 PM
I think I found the Old School source of that "iz" and "izzo" thingy. A rap group from the 1980s, UTFO (Untouchable Force Organization) came up with Roxanne Roxanne and yes, there it goes public..

skip to 0:35 to hear those famous izzo words. :)

UTFO-Roxanne Roxanne (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P40JTKa2VfU#)

Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Binnatics on September 23, 2013, 01:24:14 PM
Nice oldschool skills. And you might be right. Damn, these original beats are so simple. Doomf, tszit, doomf doomf tszit, Doomf, tszit, doomf doomf tszit, Doomf, tszit, doomf doomf tszit, ... and the scratch ... dzjiwwydzjiwwydzjiwwy-arrrgh dzjiw-h-wi-iw-dzjiw-i-arrrgh
Quite funky in fact.. dizzy and fresh at the same time :-X :)
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on September 23, 2013, 01:31:50 PM
hey guys.. whatever you gave him, I want some of it, too. :-D
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: mandru on September 23, 2013, 02:25:05 PM
I've been known to respond to leet ((1337) when typed in an MMORPG I play) and this type of shuffle talk with a blank look and the line "Sorry I only speak English."  Especially when it's someone begging for something.  ::)
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on September 23, 2013, 02:38:34 PM
good boy  :-D I remember the times when I first got online and was in a game with text chat going on and I saw those weird punctuations that didn't make sense to me, at the end of a line. So I asked why people finished their lines with ":" and ")" or ":" and "-" and ")" because at least ")" to me required a previous "(" -- the answer was simple, polite and no one laughed at me.  : )
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: durian on September 23, 2013, 02:41:07 PM
Art, I think you're probably right about spidnot meaning spot.

Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on September 23, 2013, 02:57:57 PM
thanks, durian :)
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: fragger on September 24, 2013, 03:59:58 PM
One of the many reasons why I enjoy interacting with people here is that it's nice to communicate with folks who know how to write coherently 8)

I get appalled whenever I read posted comments at places like You Tube. So many people seem incapable of putting words together properly, even when they manage to spell them correctly, which isn't often, and some comments are just completely incomprehensible. They might as well post in Swahili for all the sense I can make of them. Don't get me started on punctuation abuse ::)

OWG members for whom English isn't a first language do a better job of putting their thoughts across than many native English speakers do elsewhere on the net.

Not having kids, I don't know what gets taught at school nowadays, but evidently proficiency in written English isn't a priority subject on the curricula.

I don't know what "spidnot" means. Sounds like a piece of plumbing to me: "Here's your problem - there's a ball of hair caught in the spidnot" :-()
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on September 24, 2013, 05:27:48 PM
 :laugh:

yep, writing skills.. I mean, these days, with Thesaurus and spell-checker and online dictionaries it's so goddamn easy to write properly. But you're not alone, fragger.. in my company, a bloke (in his mid-thirties) just graduated from some University of Applied Sciences which also required some advanced technical certificate in order to qualify for entrance to begin with, doesn't command his own native language when it comes to simple grammar rules which I learned when I was about 10 years old. It makes my eyes bleed reading some of his works that he publishes across the company. Getting all those qualifications was required of him in order to get through an assessment centre which again was required in order to determine whether or not he was fit for becoming a team leader (promotion). Great. Now, he did all that after w@&k which in itself is quite an accomplishment but hey, it doesn't change the fact that he can't even write an instruction without committing a few mistakes. And I may very well be one of the few people still capable of recognising those mistakes. Imagine, he has worked for the company for several years already and only to become a simple team leader they a) make him graduate and b) have him go through an assessment centre as if they didn't know him at all. And no one realised he can't even write? But yes, only a degree automatically makes you a natural leader. And as a leader, you don't need to know any more how to write down something in your bloody own native language, let alone compose letters or instructions in a proper business environment. Or pass a test. By the way, after graduating he became team leader.

OK, I reckon I got carried away a bit with that rant.. but it's entierely fragger's fault, not mine. ;)  :-D
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Binnatics on September 25, 2013, 08:59:43 AM
Thanx fragger, we keep trying. It seems that there's a trend not to lose time on communication itself. Ppl (oops ::)) People have no time to check how they say things, they're already focussing on the next youtube film they watching. They're multi-tabbing  ^-^
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on September 25, 2013, 11:18:42 AM
multi-tabbing, nice one  :-D
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: fragger on September 25, 2013, 10:32:45 PM
Quote from: Art Blade on September 24, 2013, 05:27:48 PM
OK, I reckon I got carried away a bit with that rant.. but it's entierely fragger's fault, not mine. ;)  :-D

I know, I'm a bad influence :-D

Multi-tabbing :laugh: :-X
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on September 30, 2013, 05:16:16 AM
I moved this topic from off topic to GTAV because the original question came up when watching a YT vid. I decided to put it off topic so anyone would notice who might not have noticed if posted in a game board. :)


However, I found another word in that context:

gridnind. It means "grind." (same construct: -idn-, like sp-idn-ot and gr-idn-ind)

Example: "You wanna get whips like this, you gotta stay on yo' gridnind"
meaning: "If you want to get (expensive) cars like this, you've got to stay on your grind"

Stay on your grind, meaning: keep up the hard w@&k
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: nexor on September 30, 2013, 09:12:06 AM
Guys, you shouldn't complain, come live in the new SA,  they don't just spell them wrong here, they even pronounce them wrong   ???
Sometimes you have to sit back and try deciphering a sentence in an attempt to comprehend what the person actually meant.
Cabinet Ministers, TV / Radio presenters and news readers where a University degree is a must.
This one guy, he's the SA Lottery's TV host, firstly his dentures are way too big for his mouth, and the word millionaire comes out something like "millinare"     
He's driving me insane  :o :o :o
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on September 30, 2013, 10:24:06 AM
 :-D
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Binnatics on September 30, 2013, 11:33:34 AM
Art, could you trace the video where you first heard the word? Since it's now a GTA V topic, which is totally fitting imho, I'm curious where you heard the slang talk ^-^
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on September 30, 2013, 12:19:39 PM
Sure :) For some reason I've heard various if small differences during mission dialogues, same mission, different lines. I noticed that watching various playthroughs. The game is full of izzos and izzles and whatnot.. :) Probably a variety so a replay won't be too boring or they did last minute changes to the final game (some of the uploaders received their copy before the official release date).

spidnot = 0:13:08
nizote (note) = 0:13:52
you got to grind to keep that s#!t 0:13:55 (for gridnind, see next vid)
GTA 5 Walkthrough part 1 Grand Theft Auto 5 Walkthrough part 1 Gameplay Let's play no commentary V (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H9wiUqJiws#)

For example, here is the gridnind but not the nizote:
gridnind = 0:16:28
sizelf, cizain't (sounds like sizz-elf (self) and kizz-ain't, (can't) ) 1:49:30
GTA 5 - Walkthrough Part 1 [1080p HD] - First 2 Hours! - No Commentary - Grand Theft Auto 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymDb7zMmhB8#)
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Binnatics on October 02, 2013, 05:11:08 AM
 :-X +1 for that job! Must have taken some time to find all that back ;)

I find this slang damn interesting. It seems like a way to put power to a word in order to over-bluff the other person in the last few lines (sizelf and cizain't) but when they pronounce the spidnot it doesn't seem that way. Would be a cool investigation theme for a cultural anthropologist. Ghetto sociology ^-^
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on October 02, 2013, 07:40:28 AM
cheers :)

I have a simple theory for that sort of "slang" -- if you're not an insider, you don't understand it. Which means, it allows for talking about stuff the police or anyone else outside the gangs or ghettos or slums should not easily be aware of.. rendering it incomprehensible for any outsiders like us  :-D
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: fragger on October 04, 2013, 03:31:39 AM
Very true Art :)

This discussion reminded me of a scene from the movie Finding Forrester. There's this part where the young black guy gets together with his friends in some sort of diner or cafe and they have a conversation. That conversation was so incomprehensible to me that I might as well have taped it and listened to it backwards ???? I couldn't understand a word of it.

But then, if those same characters came here and listened to a slang-laden conversation between locals they may well have no more idea of what was being talked about :-() "Slanguage" is usually comprehensible only to those who are part of the culture, even if they speak the same base language.

For instance, who among you would know what is meant by this: "I got elephants last night and felt so butchers this morning that I got on the dog to w@&k and chucked a sickie - the strife wasn't impressed"? (although a British member might get it - quiet Abletile, let's see if anyone can figure it out. You too Art, I've revealed some of these ridiculous Aussie affectations to you so you also might be able to decipher it :-()).

Aw heck, here's a translation:
Spoiler
The statement utilizes rhyming slang, a quirky tradition adopted in this country from Cockneys but subsequently embellished upon with great relish:

"Elephants" is short for "elephant's trunk" - rhyming slang for "drunk".
"Butchers" is short for "butcher's hook" - rhyming slang for "crook", which in turn is slang for "sick", and thus a concatenation of slang expressions.
"Dog" is short for "dog and bone" - rhyming slang for "telephone".
To "chuck a sickie" - colloquialism for calling in to w@&k sick on false pretenses, thereby getting an illicit day off.
"Strife" is short for "trouble and strife" - rhyming slang for "wife".

So translated, the meaning of the statement is: "I got drunk last night and felt so hungover this morning that I got on the phone to w@&k and called in pretending to be genuinely sick in order to get the day off - my wife was not impressed".

Yeah, I know, it's ridiculous - but it is fun.
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on October 04, 2013, 06:55:06 AM
Nice one old china  :-D However, it has a lot in common with cockney rhyming slang which indeed is generally impossible to get the meaning of what exactly is being said.

By the way, fragger,
Spoiler
shouldn't it have been "the trouble wasn't impressed" as in trouble and strife? To me it looks as if you gave away the rhyming word rather than using the unsuspicious first word of an associated word pair? Just as you say dog rather than bone for phone :)
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Binnatics on October 04, 2013, 10:04:56 AM
This topic is getting more interesting by the day ^-^ :-X

I'll take a shot:
Spoiler
"I got drunk last night and felt so bad this morning that I couldn't even think of going to w@&k so I called myself ill for today. The boss wasn't amused"
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Binnatics on October 04, 2013, 10:16:34 AM
Heheh :-X ^-^ After reading the spoilers I think I wasn't far from the truth :)
Spoiler
Although I got "dog" for "phone" mistaken as well as the "strife" being the "wife". I did a more associating translation where I imagined someone not wanting to let his dog out in the morning, and thus translated into "disliking to go to w@&k" (having the land on going to the job sprung to mind) and the "butcher" as being the one that cuts stuff to pieces, which is my head being ached. I misunderstood strife because in Dutch we have a word for people who always try to be the top notch, they are called "strevers" which sounds like strife. Checking out translators showed my mistake :-D
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: fragger on October 05, 2013, 05:01:18 AM
Well done Binn, very close :-X

@Art - one would think so, but these things aren't always consistent. With most of those expressions the first word is used, but occasionally the second one is. I guess it just depends on which sounds better, funnier, or in the case of the last one, more apt 8-X

I don't make the rules, I just follow them :-D
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on October 05, 2013, 05:22:44 AM
hey :-D

I've also found a lot of examples with both words, like "he's gone down the battle cruiser" (boozer, = pub) "he flicks a flaming match into his bird's nest" (chest) and shortly before that, "walks straight past the jam rolls" (arseholes) "he then orders an Aristotle (bottle) of the most ping pong (strong) Tiddley (Tiddleywink = drink)" -- So Tiddley is the only first word (which is actually a first half of an English hamlet's (settlement's) name)

you can listen to those examples in a perfect surrounding in this little vid taken from Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (by the way, with Jason Statham) which is subtitled in English so the audience ignorant of cockney rhyming slang may still follow the conversation  :-()

battle cruiser 00:00:18
jam rolls at 00:00:40
Aristotle, ping pong, Tiddley somewhere after 00:00:46
and bird's nest at 00:01:00
Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels Pub Scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu7aj1SCE8k#)
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: fragger on October 05, 2013, 05:55:54 AM
Yeah, it can get pretty dense. I thought I was fluent in rhyming slang but when I saw that film I had trouble deciphering some of it :-()
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on October 05, 2013, 06:02:01 AM
that film is a riot  :-D In the scene above, "calm as a coma" always cracks me up :laugh:
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: fragger on October 05, 2013, 06:07:30 AM
 :-D
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Binnatics on October 05, 2013, 07:31:20 AM
Quote from: Art Blade on October 05, 2013, 06:02:01 AM
"calm as a coma"

That phrase also got me :laugh: :-X
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on October 14, 2013, 08:18:02 AM
just watched the "spidnot" scene with Spanish subtitles, and they translated it as "lugar" which means location, so "this is the spot" or "this is the location" is correct, now it's official  :-D
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Binnatics on October 14, 2013, 10:07:43 AM
As far as you can state that Spanish people know these kind of things that is... :angel:
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on October 14, 2013, 11:25:01 AM
just as far as Rockstar themselves put those Spanish subtitles into the game. >:D

go to 03:50 for "spidnot" and keep watching a bit so you can see that in-game messages (such as the black tutorial box top left) are all in Spanish, too. So it's not just someone who translated it and posted a home-made subtitle or YouTube's feature allowing you to get captions in your own language.

If Rockstar hires gang members for authenticity I believe they're capable of hiring capable interpreters, too. So yes, I believe those Mexicans or whoever translated the game did quite well know what they were translating. I'm quite sure they weren't Spaniards because some of the adjectives and expressions used are typical for Latin Americans, such as "pinche" -- you wouldn't see that in a Spanish (castellano) version. On top, it plays in Los Santos aka La Ciudad de Los Angeles where the Spanish language is even obvious in the local names so there will be quite a few people who speak both English and Spanish. You may remember Hispano gangs in GTA:San Andreas who speak both languages.

So it is even likely that Spanish people know these kind of things :)

GTA 5 Mision 2 en Español HD | Subtitulos Grandes | Campaña Completa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dj03XkuUOs#)
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Binnatics on October 14, 2013, 11:49:14 AM
You are hard to trick, my friend ^-^

But indeed, if the translation came from a Rockstar office, it's veritable. What came to my mind was an official translating bureau, the ones that are usually translating official documents and/or books :-()
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Binnatics on October 14, 2013, 12:07:41 PM
I heard a great line in a song called La Raza and performed by Kid Frost on Radio Los Santos today. The rapper says: "You're so cool I'm a calla you a Culo"

Here's a great version of the song, a bit different from the Radio Los Santos one, with such a cool video you'll enjoy it for not only the Mexican slang but also for the many things we, San Andreas and GTA V players, will recognize... Bouncing cars, chicas, chorros, cops, graffiti and much more :-X ;)

Kid Frost - La Raza (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ8AS300WH4#ws)

The line I mentioned will appear at 2:11 in the video.
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on October 14, 2013, 12:36:55 PM
so you were trying to trick me, eh? Tsk tsk tsk  :-D It's probably so hard to do so because I either come up with a solid fact or a well educated guess backed up with solid logic :-()

That vid just had to be blocked by GEMA... couldn't watch it :(
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on October 14, 2013, 01:07:10 PM
re: Kid Frost - La Raza
Yay! found a couple of vids with traces of it, and one particular right here, the best is: take a look at the DJ in the back wearing a white T-shirt. Now check out the guy standing next to him. Do you know who he is? (check spoiler, other funny things in the spoiler, too)

Kid Frost - La Raza (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSpTYy4iTQg#)

Spoiler
it is the b-movie actor who gets cast in every movie when they need a badass Mexican, it is Danny Trejo!  :) :-X He's probably completely stoned, he doesn't get the hand-clapping right, always off beat or waiting when to clap again, distracting the DJ trying to chat with him and when he sings the chorus he misses the point when to stop  :laugh: :-X
The big guy in the middle could be Big LA, another Latino rapper, see this vid

Big LA- La Raza (Ft. Frost) *NEW 09 Music Video* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X3UzWntpug#)
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Binnatics on October 14, 2013, 02:21:27 PM
I didn't check the spoiler jet, but I know who he is.
Spoiler
It's the ugly face actor that pops up in most mexican pistolero films, as well as in From Dusk Til Down if I'm right. Could be another tarantino movie. Ah, googled his name, it's Danny Trejo, alias Razor Charly alias the Machete :)
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Binnatics on October 14, 2013, 02:28:05 PM
lol @ Big LA :laugh: He's both funny and impressive. Good vid.  :-X 8)
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Art Blade on March 06, 2014, 03:27:21 PM
Quote from: Art Blade on September 23, 2013, 01:03:16 PM
I think I found the Old School source of that "iz" and "izzo" thingy. A rap group from the 1980s, UTFO (Untouchable Force Organization) came up with Roxanne Roxanne and yes, there it goes public..

skip to 0:35 to hear those famous izzo words. :)

the old vid here:
Spoiler
UTFO-Roxanne Roxanne (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P40JTKa2VfU#)

I found a "new" one from 1981 which is FULL of this shizzle -- go to 1:45 :-D
Double Dutch Bus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kE6ZU-OPTc#)
Title: Re: what does "spidnot" mean?
Post by: Binnatics on March 07, 2014, 09:04:23 AM
That izz quizzle-ite obvee-izzlous indizzle-eed :-D

Great song btw, nice beat and bass line :-X