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Title: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on April 17, 2011, 03:27:23 PM
This is my latest composition and I am really proud of it. Genre is roughly Electronica and the mood is somewhat chillaxed yet groovy. Programs used: MadTracker2, Audacity (wave), Realtek EQ, LameEnc (mp3). All the stuff you'll hear is completely my own w%&k, all arrangements and whatever is not prefab but selfmade. I think this piece is close to a commercial level. I authorize the download for members of this site (www.openworldgames.org (http://www.openworldgames.org)) and hope that you'll like it :)

This time I uploaded it straight as mp3 (128kb constant rate, stereo) (rather than joint stereo). The quality is of course not as good as a higher bitrate mp3 but hey, it's a 4:47 song and we have a 5mb limit here.

Alright, check it out, enjoy.. comments appreciated :)

You can listen to it right away, it will be streaming (and a download option is also available)

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Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download here)
Post by: PZ on April 17, 2011, 03:31:11 PM
Very nice composition, Mr. Blade   :-X

As an aside, because you uploaded to the media gallery, you can embed just like any other media and users can simply click the play button (looks kind of cool embedded into a post) ;)

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Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on April 17, 2011, 03:32:33 PM
lol. embed. Of all things, an admin really should know that -- at least one did ^+-+

Thanks, PZ :)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: PZ on April 17, 2011, 03:35:39 PM
 ;)  We actually use a commercial version of the media gallery which allows things that our original free version did not.  This new version was installed during the recent forum update, so we have cool new features, the easy embedding of media being one of them  :-X
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: fragger on April 17, 2011, 04:19:31 PM
Nice job Art, very pleasant to listen to :-X :-X Here's a kudo for all your w@&k :)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on April 17, 2011, 04:30:33 PM
Thanks muchly, fragger  :) :)

In fact, I can't stop listening to it for like three days now (did some minor tweaks here and there until I decided it was ready, though) and the final version is just.. dreamy.

I like the strange combo of a sad tune that keeps going back to hope and happiness yet it never lasts. The same paradox is the thriving grooving bass and beat that makes you nod your head yet it is slow enough to lean back and just sink into the layers of strings and synths. Could be a movie score or just a tune to put onto your player while walking down a beach at sunrise or sunset.

:)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: fragger on April 17, 2011, 04:39:35 PM
That's what I got from it, it's like a reverie that's alternately reflective and positive :)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on April 17, 2011, 04:49:40 PM
Funny and interesting how sound (music) is able to create something like that, an image, an impression, in one's mind. Particularly if it is the same image and impression that both the creator and the consumer share.. like, I created it and you "see" the same.. fascinating. :)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: fragger on April 17, 2011, 05:05:10 PM
As they say, music is a universal language :)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on April 17, 2011, 05:22:57 PM
hehe, maybe not all of us "speak" (as in compose) the language, but we all understand (as in listen and feel) it :)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: mandru on April 17, 2011, 08:29:36 PM
I like it a lot Art.  It's very good.  :-X

The stereo effect on the floating vocal element is "Way cool!  :-X ".   ;)

The following is not a suggestion of what I would like to see done but rather a statement of my own preferences and perspective on music composition which means it is neither valid or has any foundation in the way music should be presented.

It's a drive by critiquing you might say.  :-D

I like that with the slightest of tweaks the volume level of the end of the song could be balanced to match the beginning so that it could be synced and dropped into an eternal loop.

Part of the way I perceive music is that if a song fades up at the beginning it has the feel that it has been playing all a long and I've figuratively walked up on it and that it has been playing all along.  Almost as if I'm becoming aware of it as I approach the place that it (the spirit of the song) exists.

Likewise when a song fades out at the end it is as if I am moving away from the field of influence of that piece of music in such a way that either it is becoming more distant because I'm moving on to something else (as if strolling through a park or garden) or that the song (as a messenger) has delivered the intent of the artist and it is leaving me to seek another listener.

So in effect as I perceive it, an eternal loop is a closed universe that reflects the fullness of the song that lives in that place.

I have some pieces of music where I blast into the opening and the end of the song is very different from the beginning.  A song of the type just described is not something that embraces the listener but is more of an assault or a challenge for the listener to keep up with what the song is attempting to convey.  A song of this type also is not what I would consider a good candidate for an eternal loop but your song is.



Art, your uploading this has me thinking I need to reassemble my studio suite which basically translates to I need to use a crowbar to pry my wallet out of my back pocket for the $112 needed to buy the KarmaFX Synth Modular package which has been one of the best virtual synth ensembles I've ever encountered.  Of course my preference for that synth package is probably because it was created to be intuitive at least for the way my thought processes flow and does not have a huge learning curve to jump in and make it w%&k.

Thanks for posting your song Art.  It's always good to hear your compositions.   8)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: fragger on April 18, 2011, 06:43:43 AM
Interesting post mandru, and a good read :-X

Art, just wanted to add that I believe you have a genuine affinity for melody. I've mucked around with synth and music software in the past, but I don't have the composing knack - what the whole thing is about, where it's going or what it's trying to say. I don't even know what to start with :-() When it comes to artistic endeavors I'm the visual type - I can use either paint or electrons to create images that I've received a lot of good feedback on, but creating music is totally beyond me. Your compositions are very adroitly created, better than some "professional" efforts or even some movie scores I've heard :)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on April 18, 2011, 08:51:33 AM
Thanks a lot guys, very kind of you :) :) :)

Fragger, funny enough, I used to be active in the visually creative fields, as in portraying people('s faces -- even earned money and got hired) and also advertisement and that also includes text compositions (hehe, remember our Limerick sessions?) ..basically everything that involves creativity as an art form then I'm all in :)

Mandru, I actually have that piece running as an endless loop but had to cut it down and force it to end. You can still loop it given you've got a player that allows markers. VLC player for instance does.
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Binnatics on April 18, 2011, 01:59:47 PM
Couldn't take the time to read all posts, cause when I scroll to the bottom of the topic the MUSIC STOPS!!!

It's just too cool to stop listening to allready.

Nice w@&k Art, Go on!!!! And a slab on the back overthere!!!! :-X
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on April 18, 2011, 02:02:36 PM
Thank you, Binnatics :)

You can go to the media gallery (or click below the player on "details") and download the mp3  :)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Binnatics on April 18, 2011, 02:33:13 PM
What's she saying actually??

I keep hearing "clouser bome". Never mind, don't say. The song is cool the way it is!!! Mysterious and relaxing.  :bow
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Binnatics on April 18, 2011, 03:13:27 PM
I just activated both embedded files at the same time, that makes it even more freeky  ::) :)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on April 18, 2011, 03:35:16 PM
hehe :)

The female voice is a reversed recording and has gone through several layers of filters so it actually doesn't mean anything. I used it as a rhythmic pattern. What the original recording was.. really, you wouldn't believe it and it shouldn't be said aloud  8-X ^+-+
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: black.penta on April 23, 2011, 12:44:52 AM
what a nice track, really great w@&k and track!

Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on April 23, 2011, 11:11:06 AM
Thank you, black.penta :) Glad you like it  :-X
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on August 26, 2011, 06:23:47 PM
Time for a new piece.

Mandru, try looping this one  ;) :-()

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Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: mandru on August 27, 2011, 10:40:51 AM
 :) :-X

Very cool Art.  It does loop nicely.   8)

I keep telling myself I need to break down and buy the full edition of the KarmaFX VST/VSTi synth package that I use for composing so I have it available in the rare moments I feel like mashing together a new piece.

I'm particularly partial to that product because each synth module you add to the processing as you are assembling a custom engine has a small screen showing a spectral analysis of the audio signal at that point in the sound chain clearly showing how the signal is being affected.

^+-+ Don't get me started on setting up side-chain Low Frequency Oscillators (LFOs) and programming them to behave as little robots that can reach into the controls of any other active module on the screen so that they can adjust settings parameters in a controlled fashion on the fly and in real time.

Open confrontation with the infinite is a path that often leads to madness.    >:D

I just looked it up and it's author (is that the right word for a software designer and creator?) has the package on a summer sale at $72 USD which is down from $120 that was being charged for it because of the decline the value the US dollar has been experiencing.  So it would be a good time to get a crowbar out and pry my wallet open.

Then again it may not be the best of times since it was only yesterday I convinced my wife that it would be a good idea to pre-order FC3 as soon as it becomes available.   :-\\

It's tough sometimes being so stingy with myself when it comes to anything I want to buy for me.   ::) 
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on August 27, 2011, 08:51:49 PM
In this case, try MadTracker2. It's all I use, combined with audacity and the RealTek HD Audio Manager. They cost.. together.. zip. Nada. Niente. Rien. Nothing  :-D
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: mandru on August 28, 2011, 07:27:21 AM
I'll have to give MadTracker2 a look see Art.  I already have the other two.   :)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on August 28, 2011, 09:09:05 AM
it comes with a couple of VSTs, you'll see. Anything else: Use wave files. Like, record a particular part of a song so you could cut out a guitar riff or the sound of a base drum.. and that wave file (.wav) can then be used as an instrument.  :-()

Easiest way to get started: Download a couple of songs from the web site, listen and watch (the sequencer), change stuff.. and then, just export instruments used in those pieces so you can "recycle" them ;)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Binnatics on August 29, 2011, 02:10:52 AM
You are amazing Art: Moving, playing GTA and even finding some spare time to make a track like that!  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: PZ on August 29, 2011, 08:11:55 AM
Quote from: Binnatics on August 29, 2011, 02:10:52 AM
You are amazing Art: Moving, playing GTA and even finding some spare time to make a track like that!  :-X :-X :-X
Indeed - an now even finding time to dabble in FC2 modding!
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Binnatics on August 29, 2011, 10:51:10 AM
I must have been in a hurry replying here.... Thought it was a new song  :-[ :-D
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on August 29, 2011, 03:28:03 PM
No you were right, it IS a new song, "Going Places"  :-()
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Binnatics on August 31, 2011, 06:47:43 AM
Holy moley... I WAS in a hurry overthere in Sweden ;) Just got back home today  ^-^ Gonna take a closer listen to it as soon as I figured out what happened to my green colour  :-D
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on August 31, 2011, 08:42:21 AM
we matched it to your current avatar's border colour.  :-()
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Binnatics on September 01, 2011, 04:40:46 AM
Indeed, perfect match :-X
Beginning to like it this way  :-()
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: fragger on September 01, 2011, 08:10:25 AM
Very nice ear-balm, well done Art :) I was in need of an aural massage, many thanks :-X

Hey Binn - your new colour looks good on you :-D

Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: PZ on September 01, 2011, 09:10:46 AM
Quote from: fragger on September 01, 2011, 08:10:25 AM
... aural massage...

Good one  :-X
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on September 01, 2011, 02:41:38 PM
haha, yes, good one and thank you, fragger  :)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on September 04, 2011, 05:44:41 AM
March of Rebels:
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Started composing 2008, left it, did some, left it.. now, in 2011, it's done  :-()
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: mandru on September 05, 2011, 05:21:56 PM
And yet again Mr. Blade has shared another very pleasant composition.   8)

Thanks Art. :)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on September 06, 2011, 03:57:46 AM
cheers, mandru  :)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: Binnatics on September 06, 2011, 05:54:07 AM
Nice track as well  :-X
Great bass / frog sound  ^-^
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: PZ on September 06, 2011, 08:31:23 AM
Distinctive Mr. Blade style - nicely done  :-X

Sounds almost like it could be playing with the credits in an action movie.
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on September 07, 2011, 09:30:07 AM
Thank you, guys  :) :)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on September 27, 2012, 02:10:54 PM
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Binnatics made me upload my latest tune "Deeporamic" (OWG edit) - It's actually quite different from the previous tunes, more towards deephouse and with a lot of fresh sounds.

Have fun  :)

Oh, and mandru, it does loop (especially for you  :-() )

By the way, it's a high quality mp3, at 320kbit/s which is near CD quality.
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: PZ on September 27, 2012, 03:58:08 PM
Good one, Mr. B!  :-X
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on September 27, 2012, 04:11:53 PM
Thanks, Mr Z  :-()
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: PZ on September 27, 2012, 05:17:42 PM
We're almost on opposite ends of the alphabet!
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: mandru on September 27, 2012, 10:49:08 PM
Cool piece Art thanks for sharing it.  And there was nice balance on the loop point too.  :-()

I have a midi file for a song I call Groove Loop that was crafted in an old Windows 95 program called Guitar Jammer that I had fun playing around with a bit with back in the day.  True it was clunky old midi voices for the different instruments but I didn't think it was too horible.  I was able to tease a nice ripping sax solo out of it by recompiling that instrument measure by measure selecting the riff patterns that suited the mood I was trying to achieve.

Unfortunately when I tried a while back to upload here it was a file type ( .mid I think) that the media center here at OWG doesn't recognize and wouldn't allow.  Probably something to do with it needing to be downloaded and run in Windows Media player.

I still haven't found a good way after all these years to convert those old midi files to straight audio files outside of trying to reconstruct them note by note from scratch with the newer music programs and the charting sequencer I've downloaded.

So I just keep bumping them forward for my own records with each new computer or major upgrade.

C'est la vie, non?  ::)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: PZ on September 28, 2012, 08:57:17 AM
Could be a size issue - how large are the files mandru?
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: mandru on September 28, 2012, 11:20:10 AM
PZ, the files are on my computer that's in the shop so I'll need to get back to you on that but I believe they are measured in KBs so I don't think it's the size that blocked the upload.
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: PZ on September 28, 2012, 11:30:23 AM
Try uploading now - I changed a parameters to include .mid

If you remember the extension correctly, that should at least allow you to upload the files.
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on September 28, 2012, 11:40:14 AM
Mandru, thanks :)

I know the extension, it is indeed "mid." Unfortunately you cannot convert those files because they actually don't contain any audio. They contain data, basically a sheet of music that requires musicians to transform it into audible music (in this case a device like a midi expander or a soundcard with sound banks or wave synthesis and it works with midi keyboards of course). Additionally it contains data that tells the device what else to do, i.e. pitch bend, portamento, bank switch and so forth. The only way to get it into a different format is to actually record a device that is playing back the midi file.
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on September 28, 2012, 12:42:53 PM
Mandru, here's an example of a live jam session I recorded with Cubase around Xmas 2001, actually a midi file I later (this file) recorded as an audio track. And yes, it was all me.  :-D Oh, and it just so happens to loop, too  ;)

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Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: mandru on September 28, 2012, 03:54:21 PM
Thanks PZ, will do ASAP.  I'm anxiously awaiting the call from the shop to say my system is ready for pick up.  It's been tough limping along on this background process overwhelmed laptop for the last week.  Yeah, really anxious! ???


Art, about this last piece you've posted it's untitled?  "Live Jam recorded around Christmas 2001" seems a little clunky for something this frenetic.

Beat me daddy, eight to the bar.  I like it.   ^-^ :-X

I get the feeling of a city scape just after the morning rush and everything is up and humming along in well practiced chaos.


Art, it sounds like you must have seen the OWG activity report covering my failed attempt to upload that piece.  ::)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on September 28, 2012, 04:13:37 PM
I haven't seen any report as I didn't think about checking them because you already told us you failed uploading your .mid file.  ;) You could still upload it to the other games and stuff section of the downloads as a compressed .zip file in case everything else fails. :)

Thanks for your comment on the last piece, mandru  :) The file is simply called "Art's jazz" as it isn't really a song or anything; it is what you said: a piece.. a truncated and chopped something taken out of a session that went on and on. This bit is the best bit of that jam session :-D It was so weird and uncommon I just had to preserve it and dragged it along with me and I transferred it from one PC to the next and the next and the next.. now you've got it, too, hehe  :-D
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: mandru on September 28, 2012, 10:55:12 PM
 :-X
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: Binnatics on September 30, 2012, 04:56:42 AM
I happened to listen to the Christmas Jazz song first! Lol, and, very nice! That's one of the happiest pieces of music I've heard in a long time!!
Now I'm listening to your Deeporamic track. It's nice. It has a good vibe. But it still feels like the basis of something to happen. Since the track is looping (isn't it :-()) I'm getting in sort of a trance listening to it, but I have the sensation that any moment something big is about to happen; like a spaceship that is about to land and unload its deadly content on Earth... euh, did I just say Earth? I meant Jupiter of course, a few years after we colonized the place :-()
Wonder how the response would be: Gattling guns spitting burning bullets over the newcomers, or instant freezer-guns and laser-smashers. Or just a silent conversation between two warlords on the main square of the airbase, surrounded by war veterans of both sides, waiting weather they're about to shake hands or spam their lead  ::)
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: Art Blade on September 30, 2012, 08:44:24 AM
Christmas song, lol  :laugh: I only know that I made it around Xmas 2001 because I tagged the file. Glad you like it, though :)

The other one, Deeporamic, is actually a very short version (hence "OWG edit") to give a general example of the new sounds I'm using. However, you got it right, trance or meditative state of mind applies to deephouse just as well as ecstatic dancing as it is basically a very monotonous and repetitive type of music that uses very short patterns over and over again but does tend to add some rhythmic "ambience." You don't usually get any recognisable melodies but recognisable sounds and rhythmic patterns that make the song unique. Listening to a loop like that is almost as good as listening to full-blown "song" (usually there are no lyrics except perhaps some occasional voice samples). Thanks for the comment  :)

The rest of your comment leads me to believe that you are in dire need of playing some Borderlands2  :-()
Title: Re: Music: Sea Groove + more (download / streaming here)
Post by: Binnatics on October 01, 2012, 02:01:25 AM
 :-() :-D