This game is getting more immersive all the time!
OK, so I'm at Mokuba with my trusty Springfield, PKM, and M79 - I took out the RPG sniper, now I'm getting ready to open up. A guard walks my direction, and I sight the wires on his head...He looks up, gasps, and stops. Puts his hands up, holds still, and starts saying "Come on man. Think this through, you don't want to do this." And a lot of the stuff that they say when you piss them off in town e.g. "Argh you STUPID FUUU..." "Mother f@#$ER!" "AAAAH GOD DAM IT!" but their friends still don't hear it.
Being the naive soul I was, having just arrived in the country, I stayed aimed at him but lowered the sights, and he promptly yelled for his mates and blew me away.
But I experimented with this some more. Since they hold still, it's useful to hold one guard out of two in one place while the other walks away and you machete the hostage. Once I did this while assaulting the diamond east of Shwasana, the guy was very cooperative. He even lowered his gun, turned around and yelled back "Everything's good man, I don't see anybody".
For some screenies I snuck up on some dude in the middle of nowhere...
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Try it! It's surprisingly fun to torment them at gunpoint.
There are, I think, four levels of AI alertness
1. Calm
2. Did you hear something?/ normal patrol
3. He's out there, let's go search
4. KILL HIM
This will only w@&k if they are at levels two and three - at one, they will jump up and start shouting, at four, they'll shoot. It also has to be at relatively close range.
What a great find TheFishlord, I've never heard of that happening outside of town. I can't wait to try. Thanks so much for posting this great new info.
Outstanding new information TheFishLord, this is just the kind of thing we prize highly in our boards - good job! :-X :-X
thats really interesting, what difficulty are you playing at ?
wonder how much AI changes at different difficulties.
Not only LOD, but at what level of REP are you? I wonder if that factors in as well. I've never seen a merc do this BTW, they just start shooting. great find tho. :-X
That is a great find. I never get that close to the mercs to see this, I usually am shooting them way before I get this close. :)
Indeed, a truly amazing find, TheFishlord :-X :-X
Just as Hacko I never get that close outside a cease fire zone -- either I'm too frightened to get shot (that's my "shoot first, never ask" or "shoot first, shoot all" routine) or I'm already on murderous frenzy mode ;D
Man, I want to try that myself!!
Oh, and I think you are right about how you classified different levels of alertness.
Congrats on a job well done :)
Quote from: Ricamundo on May 05, 2009, 01:01:53 AM
Not only LOD, but at what level of REP are you? I wonder if that factors in as well. I've never seen a merc do this BTW, they just start shooting. great find tho. :-X
I'm on Infamous now (that's all I play on) but I believe I saw it once in Hardcore as well. This character is currently at Reputation Level 1, this was the first mission outside of the tutorial I did. I don't think rep makes a difference - but maybe they will hold still from longer away, or closer (if you bump into them they'll shoot)?
I managed to do this myself now :) LOD easy, REP 1.
I got near a locked safehouse in south Leboa. I saw two mercs (alert level 1) with their backs turned on me. I shot one, and snuck up and around the second so he'd see me. The ba$t@rd opened fire shouting "there he is!" and around the corner Mr Thirdguy flew by and opened fire too.
Reload savegame
Shot Mr One and Mr Thirdguy with my 6P9 and snuck up and around the second so he'd see me. The coward raised both arms and started to negotiate peace... LOL I kept my gun trained on him so I could hear him out, but after like one minute, he had it coming, aimed at me but ate my bullet. Safehouse, here I come.
Cool, this another layer of game play immersion... can't wait to try it! :-X
Just to add further confirmation...I was able to take a hostage on normal LOD with reputation rank 2.
I came across a lone merc patrolling a road on foot. I kept my gun on him and slowly walked up beside him. When he noticed me he put his hands up and started backing away. I saw a sniper tower in the corner of my vision so I kept tryig to force him backwards to get out of the sniper's vision. He wasn't cooperating as much as I wanted so I eventually shot him with my silenced Mak. ::)
hahaha, keep 'em company ;D
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I'm quite sure. Because it's so old, some of our new members would probably never have known this (unless they follow the links of the funny tactics and tips topic) :)
I was just again having some fun in Sefapane, I love that town for two reasons:
1) Loads of flammables and ammo crates
2) Cease fire zone without mercs respawning.
What I haven't done until now is play this trick "hold them hostage" on a merc in Sefapane. It does not w@&k as long as there are other mercs in town that might increase the merc's confidence you're playing with -- confident mercs usually get fed up with you quickly and eventually will shoot at you.
Not this time. I killed everyone in town, yet the message "you safely escaped" just wouldn't pop up -- there must have been one extremely well hidden merc left which I couldn't find to save my life. Ok, silly expression in this case ;) Well, I left town so I could walk in again, my weapon lowered, thus encouraging the merc to show his face.
Then I found him and decided to intimidate him a little :) I walked him up and down the street, he never even so much as blinked :) Was quite fun for a while. I wanted to make him walk into a fire, but unfortunately there wasn't any, that lucky ba$t@rd ;D
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Interestingly I did something quite similar with the sniper in Mosate Selao this morning. I was at a high enough reputation level that he kept backing away from me down the road toward the eastern GP. Once I was out of sight of the mercs in town, i capped him with the 6P9 and as he died, my weapon went back into the non-threatening mode. It was kind of cool off-ing a merc without the town making a fuss about it. ;D
Hehe, very nice :) I still haven't managed to do that -- kill a town merc without starting a global war ;D
smart move resurrecting this thread Art - I hadn't run across this one yet :-X
cheers, mmosu :)
By the way, there are 18 mercs in Sefapane waiting for you to have some fun together ;D
Had a merc back away in Pala, but it was on one of the main streets, one with UFLL building on i think, he took 4-5 steps back, hands up and muttering platitudes, then he turned round and held his shot gun again and just carried on walking. Not wanting to push my luck ended up legging it to the bus stop and leaving town.
Don't be fooled by his outward demeanor, Red, you definitely had him rattled. He does have a reputation to uphold among his peers, after all, hence the tough-guy attitude. I'm sure he was actually s**tting bricks in the actual presence of the psycho-merc himself, he just had to show his mates how cool he could be ;D
Those guys have a lethal addiction to forehead bullet piercings, too ;D
I'm going to have to try this the next time I play FC2!
Very cool! :)
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I managed to take a hostage outside of a ceasefire zone. This particular incident occurred at the guard post near the North Railyard. I was checking out the guard post while crouched, then I decided to stand up. This caused two of the guards to see me, so I hid behind a pile of wood. One of the guards came close but didn't quite see me.
"It must have been nothing," he said.
But he still decided to come a little closer to my hiding place, and saw me, Mac-10 pointed at his head. He realized he was being held hostage. He never screamed or went for his gun, so eventually I shot him.
As Stephen King would say, "No great loss." ;)
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Good story, and nice! LOL, what a nerve ;D ;D ;D :-X
Thanks for the tutorial and the compliment! :)
Any time, mate :)
Good one wexer9; I've not held anyone hostage yet - always something new to try :-X
Just held another hostage today...
I was sneaking around a camp, and decided to stand up to get a better look at some Mercs. They saw me - or at least thought they did - and decided to come to investigate. I ducked into a little concrete building where another merc was sitting, minding his own business. I walked up to him, stuck my Silent MP-5 in his face, and he said something akin to, "What the f***, man?"
I was about to take a screenshot when he got pissed at me, shouted, and shot me. :-\
Hehe, that's not nice of him. I'd have killed him, his family, the town he lived in, and eaten his dog.
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Hehe, that's not nice of him. I'd have killed him, his family, the town he lived in, and eaten his dog.
LOL, well, I did kill everyone at his Guard Post, at least. :P
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Hehe, that's not nice of him. I'd have killed him, his family, the town he lived in, and eaten his dog.
Lol, makes you wonder what animal some of those ribs come from ;D
@wexer9, cool stories, btw :-X
Thanks! :)
And yes, it does make you wonder... :o :P
Man, good stuff :-X
It's making my trigger finger itch, too bad a friend of mine has my FC2 disc (let him borrow it so he too could experience the magic, regreting it a little at the moment :'()
Tell him the Jackal knows where he lives ;D
He's far enough in to the game he would probably think that was pretty funny :-X
Worst part is I have his copy of Prototype in exchange - NOT a fair trade in hindsight! Oh well, only a month left until GOWIII, that'll take my mind off it!
you could still ask it back, or threaten to eat his dog.
I can't help it I think in scripts. :P
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Man, good stuff :-X
It's making my trigger finger itch, too bad a friend of mine has my FC2 disc (let him borrow it so he too could experience the magic, regreting it a little at the moment :'()
Then
Quote from: fragger on February 09, 2010, 04:59:08 PM
Tell him the Jackal knows where he lives ;D
I envision:
Friend drops FC2 disc into his computer's disc drive and keys install. Heavy footsteps in hallway, door is kicked open and Jackal strides into room, pops the drive open and removes disc and pockets it. He then turns to friend.
"What you don't seem to understand is that nobody steals me," Jackal pulls machete and drives it into the wall just over the monitor, "you got that? NOBODY!" Jackal exits.
Friend wonders aloud "What the hell" and then there's the sound of a truck backing up against the door blocking it with a crash that shakes the house, doors slamming and frantic shouts of many mercs.
"He's in there!", "Who? Who's in there?", "Quick! Get all the exits covered!", "He's just one man", "Yeah well I'm lucky too" , "I don't want to die - I don't want to die - I don't want to die..." and so on...
Windows blow in from mounted IEDs, friend experiences fade to black...
(wind storm, bumping tire and laboring engine sounds)
Dim awareness returns. The friend sees dark stormy skies overhead and with a jostle his field of visions jars to the face of a dead next door neighbor. Another bump dumps him off the back of the flatbed truck and the friend is left standing confused and dazed on a desolate dirt road in some nondescript desert.
Now that's copyright protection. :-X
nice ;D
Lmfao! ;D
Too funny! :P
You're a gem, mandru! That's really funny - and vivid ;D ;D ;D :-X
Excellent... ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just now saw your reply to me earlier "regret" mandru. Nice one, have to let my buddy know about it . . . and also get my disc back . . .
;D