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Title: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Dweller_Benthos on June 07, 2010, 12:53:30 PM
I just finished my second play through (I know, I'm slow). And it took me 51 hours to complete. Of course, that 51 hours of game play was stretched over 13 months of real time! In my defense, I played both Wolfenstein and Call Of Juarez 2 in that time as well, both twice, plus a bunch of games of Audiosurf and other "casual" games, so I wasn't slacking the whole time!

Anyway, since I don't really feel like starting Fallout 3 quite yet (maybe after the summer) and I would like to finish those last few achievements in Half Life 2, but don't really feel like doing that again, I decided to see how fast I can play the entire Far Cry 2 game, using all available cheats, of course. So, I'm trying to get everything at 100% in the game as fast as possible, using the trainer with god mode, of course, fast run, high jump, max stamina, weapon reliability, no recoil, etc.... Using fast run I can get across the map pretty quickly and can pretty much ignore the mercs to get the job done. Finished a couple weapon dealer and assassination missions so far and opened a lot of safe houses. Might be an hour into it at this point. Of course, it takes about 20-30 minutes of play to just finish the tutorial and introduction missions. Once those were done, the cheats came on and the mercs started dropping like flies. I'm hoping to get it done in less than 20 hours. We'll see.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 07, 2010, 02:21:21 PM
I think you can do it in 10  :)
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: fragger on June 08, 2010, 04:43:15 AM
Nice little challenge you've set yourself there, D_B. Go for it, mate :-*
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: JRD on June 08, 2010, 05:39:46 AM
If you go for the missions only (assassinations, factions, side and buddy) you can beat it in around 10 hours or less, but if you skip buddy and assassinations (you don`t need them anyway if you use the trainer) I think you can do it in about 5 hours or so!

Anyway... a Fast Track Far Cry is a nice idea!!  8)
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Dweller_Benthos on June 08, 2010, 12:43:42 PM
Yeah, I want to do the whole thing though, to get a good comparison to my other times, so all safe houses open, all guard posts scouted, all diamonds, main missions, buddy missions, side missions, tapes, etc. I just need to focus and git'r'done as the man says and not fool around killing mercs just for the sake of killing them. hmmmm.... maybe I should just ignore them and do the mission without killing anyone that doesn't need to be killed to complete the mission. It's just they get so annoying with all their yammering on when you're around, then all the shooting, can't think straight.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 08, 2010, 02:59:31 PM
Maybe you could leave a savegame from a previous playthrough so you can resort to that when you really need to off some mercs to ease your pain (urge to kill)  ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Dweller_Benthos on June 09, 2010, 11:41:50 AM
Yeah, I have the merc war save game handy at all times for that, lol.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 09, 2010, 02:09:24 PM
 :)

good luck with your "speed run" then, D_B  :-X
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: mandru on June 10, 2010, 12:10:10 AM
Every time I start a new game I promise myself "it will be a quick play through this time" but It never happens.  I keep getting sidetracked by game details or favorite places to try new ways of blowing things up.

This last play through I'd met Jackal at the prison started into the end game to retrieve the diamonds at the LZ and kill the remaining two faction leaders as they made their plans to drag the people back and punish them.

After leaving the prison there is an area where you are up on a ridge overlooking mercs in an encampment. Right after that there's a river that runs down to the swamp area for the second major engagement after leaving the prison but first when you get to the river there's a safe house to the left and a bit further down three mercs guarding the foot path on the left bank of the river.

I missed the shot with my dart rifle on the closest merc which had never happened to me before.  I'm usually able to get all three of these guys without raising an alarm.  This time however my botched target let out a yelp alerting the other two that trouble was on the way.

Recovering I quickly bagged the two closest mercs but the third merc, just to make things difficult, waded across the river to a thatch roof building I'd not noticed before and climbed a good ways up the hill behind it.

I crossed the river after him got a good line up on a shot and took him out but when I walked on over to the building and up the hill where he fell there were unexpectedly a few bodies scattered around on the ground.

Did Jackal kill these guys as he somehow got around me and is waiting at the house ahead or maybe some of the underground movement killed the guards to help people escape.  I guess it's even possible that the two factions being brought together in uneasy union are experiencing some fatal fraternization.

All I know is that there were four of five bodies and I was only responsible for one of them.

I may get around to a quick run through in say 20 or 30 more tries.  ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: JRD on June 10, 2010, 07:36:11 AM
Nice story mandru...  :-X

Maybe a merc war in the last act?
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 10, 2010, 11:24:05 AM
hehe mandru, I can relate.. I always got sidetracked myself and never managed a quick playthrough for the same reasons: too much fun  ;D I found those dead guys during earlier playthroughs but never gave it much thought. Somewhere there is a little hut with kind of a shrine or altar, too :)
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Dweller_Benthos on June 10, 2010, 11:46:29 AM
I've seen those dead guys there too. Funny, I went that way my first time through, not around the bend past the safe house to the main trail. From up behind that little hut, you can snipe all the guys on the trail without much fuss, then take a leisurely walk past that nice waterfall....

I can see my big problem doing it as fast as possible is resisting the urge to hang around and kill mercs for the fun of it.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 10, 2010, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: Dweller_Benthos on June 10, 2010, 11:46:29 AMI can see my big problem [...] is resisting the urge to hang around and kill mercs for the fun of it.

I think your statement just proves how good the game actually is: it constantly stimulates you to "play" (with mercs, wanting to hunt and kill them). Why would we want to resist that ? :) Anyway, go ahead  ;)
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: PZ on June 11, 2010, 03:16:25 PM
Nice idea, D_B  :-X

Like the rest of you guys, I am always sidetracked by trying something new and different, so completing anything in as short a time as possible has not been profitable for me.  The only things that I've improved my times on are the different methods of travel - I'm fairly adept at choosing the proper mode of travel (bus, boat, overland, etc) so I arrive in the shortest time possible.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Ricamundo on June 21, 2010, 04:34:08 AM
I'm currently on my 9th playthru of FC2, and still loving it as much as ever. :-X The only shortcut i've allowed myself, is retaining a specific save, made right after completing the training mish, so i can get right to the game, @ something like 4%.

I cant say ive ever strived to scout every guard post, or find every diamond, so i usually try to play each playthru with different loadouts. Lately, ive gotten used to grabbing the PKM and the M79 as soon as i've unlocked them( i always do the gun shop mish's first) This time, ive gone back to more of a stealth mode, with the silenced MP5 and dart gun, along with the handy M79, in case im seen by a jeep patrol.

This time, ive also been using the bus more often, then walking to my destination, creeping past guard posts, rather than driving and simply blasting my way thru guard posts, or patrols.

I dont think i'll ever attempt a fast playthru of FC2 or FO3 as these are my absolute faves these days, so i regard each playthru as special and want to prolong it as much as possible. My FC2 games usually last 50+ hours and my last FO3 playthru, including 4 of the 5 official addons, as well as a few fan addons, lasted almost 200 hours when i decided to pull the plug. ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 21, 2010, 04:54:26 AM
nice read, Ricamundo :) I don't think any of my playthroughs in FC2 were as short as 50 hours.. usually more like 150 hours  ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Ricamundo on June 21, 2010, 06:16:39 AM
Quote from: Art Blade on June 21, 2010, 04:54:26 AM
nice read, Ricamundo :) I don't think any of my playthroughs in FC2 were as short as 50 hours.. usually more like 150 hours  ;D

I honestly cant remember how long my last playthru of FC2 was. I keep forgetting to check the stats before i go into windows and delete all my old saves. it may very well have been much longer than 50 hours. As a counterpoint, i just played thru FEAR again, and went from start to finish in less than a week, since its a straight forward(literally) corridor shooter and i play it on 'easy". ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 21, 2010, 06:30:37 AM
Yeah, easy is my favourite "difficulty" level, too :) And I played FEAR(1) too, even MP for some short period of time, back then when it was new. I loved the sticky grenades I used to throw at someone's back and watch him panicking before I set them off  ;D

Rica, really, please give JC2 a chance, if possible rent it for a couple of days and see if you can handle it. Read through our JC2 forum, PZ and I wrote a lot about our game impressions, and there is that post comparing JC2 with FC2. I know you hate third person, but I think you could overcome that sentiment as you did with FO3. The game is just too great to be ignored by someone like you who likes a good game :)
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: mandru on June 21, 2010, 07:28:29 AM
Quote from: Ricamundo on June 21, 2010, 04:34:08 AM

The only shortcut i've allowed myself, is retaining a specific save, made right after completing the training mish, so i can get right to the game, @ something like 4%.



I've thought of trying that but have not done it because I want to truly randomize the order of where and when each of my buddies have popped up through the game.  At the very least my BB would be the same every time because their rescue from a faction home base is part of the training mission.

So this is a good chance to ask you Ricamundo, are the buddies' rescue locations determined during the cab ride into Pala or have you noticed a randomizing effect as you arrive to rescue each buddy when using your quick start method?

How about when you go into the second half of the game?  Are you getting different BBs skippering the barge for the Port Selao run?

I hope those questions made sense.  :)
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 21, 2010, 08:16:44 AM
Funny you should ask about the BB on the barge mission, I hope you don't mind me answering one question by telling what I did once:

I didn't like André. Yet he was on the barge. So I reloaded savegame after savegame, going back farther and farther in game, to find out when the game determins who it will be. Apparently back in Sefapane when you receive your orders, the BB is already determined. It was always André. I went back so far until I couldn't be bothered any more and accepted that ba$t@rd  ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Ricamundo on June 21, 2010, 11:16:15 AM
I hadn't thought of that Mandru. Good point. Since i always wait a couple of months at least between playthru's of FC2, im not sure i remember any pattern of who and when BB's show up. TBH, i dont even remember where a lot of the diamond cases are, so early on, i spend a fair amount of time wandering the open areas looking for a hit. Must be my slowly decomposing mind. :-[

Oh, i did take a peek in the JC2 forum, but im afraid after 15 odd years of shooters, im sold on FPS and not on 3rd person. FO3 can be played quite nicely on first person BTW.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: mandru on June 21, 2010, 11:36:57 AM
No worries Ricamundo.  :-X

Just another one of those things that I may never get around to checking out myself.  ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: PZ on June 21, 2010, 11:40:54 AM
Quote from: Ricamundo on June 21, 2010, 11:16:15 AM
... FO3 can be played quite nicely on first person BTW.
Do you ever switch between first and third person view?  When I first started with FO3, first is all I used, but somewhere along the line I discovered that you can see lots more of the landscape when you spin down to third.  What I actually wish is that more games would do like FO3 - give the gamer the choice of using first or third.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 21, 2010, 11:51:07 AM
choice is always good, I'd love to see more games offering both FP and TP view  :-X
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Dweller_Benthos on June 21, 2010, 12:22:49 PM
I just never liked 3rd person, don't know why. The only games I played that I switched, where it was possible, was Heavy Metal FAKK 2 and Jedi Knight, both to fight using the swords, or light saber as it were, since it was a bit easier that way. Otherwise, it's all first person for me.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: PZ on June 21, 2010, 12:28:41 PM
I guess for me it depends on the game.  I'm FPS all the way with how FC2 plays, but in RDR, I couldn't imagine playing in first person view.  For instance, I can be riding down a trail and a bear, cougar, snake, wolf, etc. will sometimes try to sneak in to attack my horse, and then eventually me.  I'd not be able to see them at all in first person view, but third allows me to adequately plan their demise.  ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 21, 2010, 12:45:38 PM
Quote from: PZ on June 21, 2010, 12:28:41 PM
allows me to adequately plan their demise.  ;D

LOL  ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: JRD on June 22, 2010, 12:29:54 AM
Hehehe... the endless discussion of 3rd vs 1st person views.

Any other site would end up having an arguing as how stupid you are not to like 3rd person or your mother must have brought you to life through the wrong hole to like 1st person view you dumb@ss[/i]...  ;D ;D I`m glad it`s OWG after all!

Actually I never thought about the peripheral vision, I just like to see my character, that`s all! Specially when it is a nice model like in AC2. I love Arma 2 for allowing me to see my character in 3rd person view and yet, when pressing and holding MB2, I can go to scope vision!. I`m playing OFP1 now and the model is so blocky I usually play on 1st person view, except for driving vehicles, which is much better in 3rd view.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 22, 2010, 01:36:02 AM
The peripheral vision is better and indeed watching oneself is entertaining, especially when you can change your outfit.. that's why I sometimes play as a female character  :-[ , like in FO3, Oblivion, Mass Effect, because I rather watch a beautiful woman than a bulky bloke when in 3rd person  ;D Especially FO3 had loads of good-looking clothes to dress your female character, while in games like Oblivion, armour looked better on male characters.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Ricamundo on June 22, 2010, 03:52:19 AM
The difference to me, anyway, is i consider first person "active". I am the player in the game, and third person is "passive". My character is playing the game. I don't know if that makes any sense, but there you go. ;)

I do use third person occasionally in FO3, when im trying on a new hat. It's also handy, as i said a while back, to see if your new set of armour makes your a$$ look fat. ;D

Really, even in my racing games, i drive using the hood, or bumper cam, never the heli cam, which would be the equivalent of third person i guess.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 22, 2010, 03:59:01 AM
Oh yes.. I hate racing (or flying, for that matter) in third person. I want to be the active part of it, too :) What you say is kind of "observe some character play" or actually "play it yourself" sort of feeling, like watching a flick about some hero or being the hero yourself. I can relate, mate  ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: PZ on June 22, 2010, 08:10:56 AM
Quote from: Ricamundo on June 22, 2010, 03:52:19 AM
The difference to me, anyway, is i consider first person "active". I am the player in the game, and third person is "passive". My character is playing the game. I don't know if that makes any sense, but there you go. ;)
Makes sense to me  :-X
Quote from: Ricamundo on June 22, 2010, 03:52:19 AM
I do use third person occasionally in FO3, when im trying on a new hat. It's also handy, as i said a while back, to see if your new set of armour makes your a$$ look fat. ;D
lol  ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Dweller_Benthos on June 22, 2010, 12:58:26 PM
Yeah, that's the other situation I use third person for, driving/riding like in Call Of Juarez 2, I did the horse riding in third person, or was that even an option? Forget now. Anyway, games like Driver 3 I did in third for driving, first for walking. I just never liked how guns shoot while doing third person, you just have guess where the bullets are going to land? First gives me a more precise control of my shooting. Though I can see where it would be a plus to be able to zoom out to third for a quick glance around the area without having to move, but that sorta seems like cheating....
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 22, 2010, 01:40:59 PM
I wouldn't call that cheating but enhancing your abilities as in getting closer to reality. Your real life vision (including peripheral) is like 180° and the slightes move of your head widens the vision even more, while in FPS all you see is straight ahead at usually 90°.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Dweller_Benthos on June 23, 2010, 12:32:59 PM
Yeah, but most FPS games have a setting where you can change the FOV, lots of players do it for online PvP because it gives you a wider range of view. I've tried it and it looks funny to me, so I don't use it. The thing I object to in 3rd person is that you can usually swing the camera around 360° to see all around you, and into areas you couldn't see if you were actually standing in that spot for real.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 23, 2010, 01:33:15 PM
you are right about "looking around corners" with the camera only, without revealing yourself. Or looking over walls etc. :) Regarding FOV, when I played online I changed from 90 to 120 degrees, it did look "funny" but it gave you a slight advantage.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Dweller_Benthos on June 24, 2010, 12:53:42 PM
Yeah, most all the people who play online tournaments do that, it's pretty much accepted.

Back to how fast you can play the game - I'm now using the trainer to teleport back to Pala when a mission is done, saves a boat load of time even over fast run. I saved a teleport point right near the bus terminal so that when I finish a mission, I just teleport back and grab the next mission. Just gotta be careful to save first, the teleport likes to rematerialize you underground, so I try to "beam out" from the highest point I can find to counteract that. Makes doing buddy missions a breeze, you don't have all that travel time getting back to the bar to get the mission done after you talk to the buddy who gave you the mission.

I've also been lucky so far with the predecessor tapes, the ones I've selected have coincided with the current mission I'm doing, so no extra running for those either.

I'm up to 5 hours now, so it looks like I might be able to get done in under 20 hours hopefully, I just really need to stop messing with the mercs and just run past them, I tend to spend time blowing too much stuff up all the time. Using the crossbow and M79 is a big temptation.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 24, 2010, 12:59:45 PM
Quote from: Dweller_Benthos on June 24, 2010, 12:53:42 PMI just really need to stop messing with the mercs and just run past them, I tend to spend time blowing too much stuff up all the time.

Wouldn't we all  ;D ;D ;D :-X
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Dweller_Benthos on June 25, 2010, 01:14:47 PM
Well, just over 6 hours and I'm in the south, so I'm making good time. The thing that eats time is diamond hunting, no matter what you do, you still have to run all over the map. In the south, I think I'll do diamond hunts and other missions at the same time instead of getting all the diamonds first. That and judicious use of the teleport may get me in under 15 hours.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 25, 2010, 01:28:11 PM
I hope that you still enjoy the game, mate  ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: fragger on June 27, 2010, 07:32:58 AM
6 hours or so to get from north to south is pretty impressive :-X
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: PZ on June 28, 2010, 11:40:39 AM
Indeed - it usually takes me more than 6 hours to free up all my buddies in the north  ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Dweller_Benthos on June 28, 2010, 12:01:49 PM
Just over 10.5 hours and I'm in the south, doing buddy & cell tower missions, need to free up those two buddies being held hostage, then take on the faction missions. Again, getting all the dang diamonds is what takes the longest.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: PZ on June 28, 2010, 12:15:57 PM
I agree - I never did have the patience to collect all those gems.  I really liked rescuing the southern buddies - was normally able to get into each of the areas and free the guy/gal without ever firing a shot or alerting any mercs.  In fact, I think it was Marty that I rescued on time after sneaking in without alerting anyone, and he said words to the effect "I suppose they're all dead; we'd better get out of here before the reinforcements arrive".

I guess he must have been having a bad dream or something.  ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 28, 2010, 02:30:42 PM
Playing with mercs and their toys took most of my time  ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: mandru on June 28, 2010, 02:45:07 PM
Quote from: PZ on June 28, 2010, 12:15:57 PM
I really liked rescuing the southern buddies - was normally able to get into each of the areas and free the guy/gal without ever firing a shot or alerting any mercs.  In fact, I think it was Marty that I rescued on time after sneaking in without alerting anyone, and he said words to the effect "I suppose they're all dead; we'd better get out of here before the reinforcements arrive".



Marty being in the South always strikes me as weird as in my current game that I have several save points that I keep going back over to enjoy Marty as the barge captain and all of his quirks as the southern BB.

I have absolutely no previous recollection of Marty as BB when we add the fuse to the 2000 lb bomb on the bridge over Yabek's barge and he turns to me and says "Right let's get out of here. Hold onto your nuts."

Funny enough Marty admires Yabek, thinks that Yabek is a great arms dealer ("He always comes up with the craziest gear, things like rocket pods and gravity bombs"  ** Is that a Clank and Ratchet homage? **) and is kind of sad that you've drawn the assignment to whack him but what the hell, it's what it is.

You'd think I'd remember stuff like that if I'd ever heard it before.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 28, 2010, 03:05:49 PM
I'm not entirely sure but I seem to remember the Prima guide informing us about one guy who can show up either in the North or in the South, was that Marty?
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: mandru on June 28, 2010, 03:08:05 PM
I can verify that Marty does show up in both.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 28, 2010, 03:08:56 PM
Alright, cheers, mandru  :) :-X
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: fragger on June 28, 2010, 06:21:49 PM
This is a tad irrelevant, but I always thought that Marty looks a lot like Charlie Sheen.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 28, 2010, 08:19:30 PM
Quote from: fragger on June 28, 2010, 06:21:49 PM
This is a tad irrelevant

Why did you bring it up, then?






HEHE, can't resist that kind of thing ;D ;D ;D You're right, he does remind me of him too LOL  :-X
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: JRD on June 29, 2010, 06:36:12 AM
Quote from: Art Blade on June 28, 2010, 08:19:30 PM
Quote from: fragger on June 28, 2010, 06:21:49 PM
This is a tad irrelevant

Why did you bring it up, then?






HEHE, can't resist that kind of thing ;D ;D ;D You're right, he does remind me of him too LOL  :-X








... and here we go offtopic-ing  ;)
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 29, 2010, 06:40:53 AM
What..? Where? When?! Why??! WHO?!?!?

;)
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Dweller_Benthos on June 29, 2010, 12:33:47 PM
Get your own topic to go off-topic on!!! lol

Now that you mention it, he sorta does look like Charlie Sheen.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 29, 2010, 01:05:55 PM
hahaha  ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: fragger on June 29, 2010, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: Art Blade on June 28, 2010, 08:19:30 PM
Quote from: fragger on June 28, 2010, 06:21:49 PM
This is a tad irrelevant

Why did you bring it up, then?

Can't help it, I'm just an irrelevent kind of guy. Oops - I meant irreverent.
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 30, 2010, 04:05:18 AM
indeed D_B must think how very rude we are to go off his topic all the time. You know what? I might tell my mates to come over and tell some more irrelevant stuff here  ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Dweller_Benthos on June 30, 2010, 09:25:17 AM
Absolutely, makes it more fun that way. I can see trying to keep on-topic in "serious" discussion boards like software support or something like that, but this is just fun and who cares?
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on June 30, 2010, 01:46:25 PM
Well said.. I think having fun is the best we can hope for. As long as we have members like yourself and others who keep posting here, I don't worry  :) Usually I split topics that went off topic, but what happened here is.. there is no subject I could imagine for a spin-off  :) Just too random stuff  ;) At least we keep this topic alive until more details regarding "how fast can you play the game" come up  :)
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Dweller_Benthos on July 01, 2010, 12:34:35 PM
Yeah, right now I'm doing other things like video editing and don't have a lot of time to play, plus I'm gone all weekend for the 4th, so I won't be really back until Tuesday, then there's things to catch up on, then more stuff, then maybe by next Thursday I might be able to play again....

Stupid real life, getting in the way of my gaming!
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Art Blade on July 01, 2010, 12:36:07 PM
At least you've got something to look forward to  ;D
Title: Re: How fast can you play the game?
Post by: Dweller_Benthos on July 02, 2010, 01:30:44 PM
That's true, and I did get to play for a half hour last night, so there is that.

I did make a little discovery about the teleport function in the trainer, though. I found that if you jump in the air and save your teleport point while at the top of the jump (using high jump, of course, didn't try it with normal jump height) that teleporting to that location gives a lot less chance of materializing underground, which is a big help. I think the teleport is just a little off and if you are standing on the ground when saving your point, you might end up underneath it when you jump to that point. At least I tried it a couple of times, once from Sepoko to the Marina and it worked. That saved a lot of time getting back to report on the artifact mission. Just hit the key and POP you're back at the marina and waiting for all the objects to get redrawn. It looks kinda funny to appear there and there's nothing but the ground under your feet, then the buddies start to appear, leaning on or sitting on nothing, then the furniture, then the building, then the rocks & trees. Pretty funny.
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Post by: Art Blade on July 02, 2010, 01:45:51 PM
Nice, hehe  ;D Sounds like part of a film, perhaps Matrix, when you load a training environment around you  :)
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Post by: Dweller_Benthos on July 06, 2010, 11:32:25 AM
Once I get caught up on things, since I was away for the weekend and plan to be away next weekend as well, I need to find some time, but I'm going to give the teleport and the game engine the ultimate test: save a point near the prison or some place, maybe the far south bus stop, or near the edge of the map down there, then go all the way to the northern map to above Petro Sahel and see if the teleport will take me across maps. I've never tried that before, interesting to see what happens.

Sometimes when you teleport in, you can walk around until everything else catches up with you, but other times you get paused and have to wait for the "Loading...." animation to get the landscape in place before you can move again.
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Post by: fragger on July 08, 2010, 02:03:34 AM
I'm curious to see if you make it to the other map, or end up in some sort of trippy Twilight Zone-type place.
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Post by: Dweller_Benthos on July 08, 2010, 01:06:33 PM
More than likely, it will just crash, lol. But three outcomes are possible:

1. It works and the teleport completes as expected.
2. Teleport completes but rematerialization occurs underground.
3. Game crashes.

I just may be able to squeeze some game time in tonight, let's see how it goes.

Well, I found out. It didn't crash anyway. Apparently, the north & south are separate and you can only cross between the two at the road in the desert. I saved a teleport point in the south by the bus station and then ran all the way to the north by Petro Sahel and hit the button.... and appeared in the north map but at the same coordiantes as I saved in the south. So, you can't cross the north/south border that way, but I did jump back and forth across the whole northern map a couple times. Enough for the stuff & mercs around Petro Sahel to respawn so I could have fun with them again and again.

Oh yeah, I found out if you save a teleport point while standing on a rock or building, you will appear inside the rock or building. Good thing there's a noclip cheat as well. So, the safest teleport point to save is while jumping and over solid ground.

Next thing to try is a teleport over/under water, hehe.
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Post by: fragger on July 09, 2010, 06:25:42 PM
So teleporting between the maps isn't allowed. That's a shame, it could have made for some interesting scenarios.

You ran all the way from Bowa to Petro Sahel? That should qualify you for the Marathon ;D Keep us posted about the water teleport, it'll be curious to see if you can rematerialize under-underwater!
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Post by: PZ on July 09, 2010, 07:14:00 PM
You might be correct there partner - I seem to recall something similar, but like you, am not sure of the identity of the buddy.
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Post by: Dweller_Benthos on July 12, 2010, 12:11:25 PM
I'm going to have to get in a truck and turn on no vehicle damage to get under water, then save the teleport point while there. Going to try in & out of the truck, see how that works. I never tried a teleport into a point that was saved while in a vehicle, so that's an experiment to do as well. I imagine it will just teleport me to that spot with no vehicle there, or into the vehicle and I'll have to use noclip to get out of it.

I took the bus from the southern station in Bowa to the one just north of Sefapane then ran across the border and up to Petro Sahel. With fast run & high jump it doesn't take more than a few minutes to run across the map as long as you have no obstacles in the way.

Funny thing, and probably due to me using the cheats, is that the meat wagon truck is stuck at the map crossover point, along with the sandstorm. Whenever I go there, the truck is still there and sometimes the road patrol that runs that way has collided with it and the guys are standing around looking confused.

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Post by: Art Blade on July 12, 2010, 05:54:58 PM
I like your attitude, D_B :) Experiments form a good part of the special OWG-experience :)

Regarding N/S map changes I recall having experimented with that long ago but without trainer. I remember that the game crashes if you had a mission going in one map and went to the other map: It wouldn't save properly and so on, so I did travel between maps but never "exported" a mission from A to B to avoid crashes. It is interesting what you found out, that the game stores coords regardless of the map, which is why you materialised around the same spot on the map you had previously created a teleport point on the other map.

I just had the idea of a map overlay, see what coords are used/shared on both maps. Maybe there lies the explanation why some huge tanks such as over at the Post Office don't respawn after they blew up, unless you left the map and returned (complete map respawn).

Maybe there are some things for you to find out :)
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Post by: mandru on July 12, 2010, 07:19:33 PM
Quote from: Dweller_Benthos on July 12, 2010, 12:11:25 PM

"the meat wagon truck is stuck at the map crossover point, along with the sandstorm. Whenever I go there, the truck is still there and sometimes the road patrol that runs that way has collided with it and the guys are standing around looking confused."


Really?

I'd like to see that.  I've got a package for those guys that I'd like to deliver.  :-*
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Post by: Art Blade on July 12, 2010, 07:23:42 PM
 ;D
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Post by: Dweller_Benthos on July 13, 2010, 01:30:37 PM
Yeah, I'll have to look into it next time I play, see what happens.

The meat wagon glitch is almost for sure because I had god mode or other trainer cheat on while the cut scene played out. Every time I go back to the north map, there the truck is, waiting, doing nothing witha  bunch of dead bodies in the back. If I hang around long enough, the dust storm starts up, pretty funny. Then the road patrol sometimes drops by and we have some fun :-)
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Post by: Art Blade on July 13, 2010, 03:10:45 PM
 :)
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Post by: fragger on July 13, 2010, 04:20:21 PM
Cool!
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Post by: Dweller_Benthos on July 27, 2010, 04:13:40 PM
Here's the final stats page for the speed run:

[smg id=2421 align=center]

Let's see, 16 hours, 50 minutes. I probably could have trimmed a few hours off that by better planning the teleport points from the beginning, and not messing with the mercs so much.

Only five underground missions, pretty sure there's more? Never had the chance to do them, ran through the regular missions so fast.

Love that accuracy of a whopping 7%, LOL! When you have infinite ammo (122,079 shots fired) you tend to not care if you actually hit anything, and also, you tend to give those mercs a few dozen extra shots just for good measure, hehe. Plus, if I felt like shooting up a truck or something, or giving a dead merc a few extra shots to move his body into a more funny position, then I did without thinking. Another reason I could have trimmed some time from the total, if I just stopped screwing around.

A lot of walking, since I was using fast run, and only 10k of driving, from the tutorial, which I could have sped up as well.

All the buddies were dead before the landing zone except for Hakim, Michele and Josip, who I missed the chance of killing back in the beginning and didn't feel like replaying that mission to get the chance again, but the rest were killed in the main part of the game.

I had all diamonds, tapes, safe houses, guard posts, etc, so that's pretty much it. I may play a few more times to try some stuff, but I think this is it for me in FC2 for a while.
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Post by: Art Blade on July 27, 2010, 04:19:31 PM
Very nice, mate  ;D

I too had a laugh at your 122k of shots fired  ;D ;D ;D And after having read that you walked a lot, I took another look at the stats and had another laugh  ;D ;D ;D :-X
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Post by: fragger on July 27, 2010, 04:21:34 PM
Good job, D_B :-X Just under 17 hours is a speedy run indeed, even allowing for the cheats. Especially too since you managed to get all the diamonds and tapes, and unlocked everything.

Very impressive :-X :)
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Post by: PZ on July 27, 2010, 05:18:50 PM
Indeed impressive, D_B - I'm lucky when I can get through a couple of main missions in that mount of time.  ;D
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Post by: JRD on July 27, 2010, 05:29:29 PM
Congrats D_B  :-X

But playing with all those cheat codes how on Earth did you manage to need a buddy rescue?  ;D
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Post by: Art Blade on July 27, 2010, 06:11:42 PM
LOL, that's what I thought.. probably on purpose to kill him  :)
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Post by: mandru on July 27, 2010, 07:38:25 PM
Nice speed run DB.  :-X

Quote from: Dweller_Benthos on July 27, 2010, 04:13:40 PM
I may play a few more times to try some stuff, but I think this is it for me in FC2 for a while.

You'll get down the road a bit and think of something you haven't tried and it will drag you right back in.   ;D
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Post by: PZ on July 27, 2010, 09:02:24 PM
What's next for you D_B?
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Post by: Art Blade on July 27, 2010, 09:14:53 PM
"Return to FarCry2"
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Post by: Dweller_Benthos on July 28, 2010, 12:50:44 PM
Yeah, for some reason, I had god mode off and I walked into the fire in front of a safe house and died, not sure why. But the Chinese guy with the impossible name came and rescued me. So, that was my one buddy rescue. That's also a tip for anyone trying to get points with their buddy to move them into best position, just stand in a fire until you die and they will come get you out. A lot easier than jumping off a cliff or starting a fight with mercs. Once you are rescued, you also keep your first slot weapon since there's no one shooting at you, your rescue buddy doesn't hand you a gun.

Since speed run is a lot faster than driving, I ran when needed and used teleport otherwise. So, a lot of "walking" and the swimming comes from trying to jump across a river and missing the landing on the other side and having to swim for it. Plus, there's more than a few places where you can't get out of the water and have to swim a good distance to get to one, really annoying. There's no fast swim cheat, so you just plug along.

There are a few things I want to try in FC2 like getting a video of a head-on attack of an assault truck with just a machete. I'm not sure what I'm going to play next. I have a lot of video transferring I'd like to get done, and there's that copy of Fallout 3 sitting on my desk, plus those last few Half Life 2 achievements to try to get.....
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Post by: Art Blade on July 28, 2010, 02:00:41 PM
FO3 is a good idea. Don't forget to search the phone boo.. er, strat guide for spider legs in case you never removed those remnants of that hairy beast from back then  ;) ;D
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Post by: PZ on July 28, 2010, 08:49:40 PM
I think you'll enjoy FO3 - a bit old school with respect to graphics, but the story line is very good if you like post-apocalyptic worlds.  Also, after you experience the game in native format, because you enjoyed using the trainer in FC2, you'll likely also appreciate the plethora of mods available.  I used quite a few and completely changed the atmosphere of the game.
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Post by: Art Blade on July 29, 2010, 02:02:23 AM
indeed.. you can use the in-game console commands to change walking speed, god mode, even change your size (the house is in your way? Grow a little and step over  it) and of course mod weapons so you have more power.. just download my Artmod to get started ;)
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Post by: PZ on July 29, 2010, 08:49:14 AM
Modding FO3 allowed me to spend months changing the way the game plays.  If I weren't so interested in the new games like AC2, JC2 with their sizzling graphics, I probably still would be playing FO3.  Although I played the main missions through one time, I never did complete the side missions, which were great because the choices you made affected your destiny in the game.
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Post by: Art Blade on July 29, 2010, 09:57:18 AM
There are almost too many side missions in FO3 to actually play them all. Plus, they can't be selected from a pull-down menu, you need to find the right people (NPCs) and perhaps even then the right circumstances to get them to offer you a side mission. I don't remember how many there are, but I believe there are around 100 or even more. In case you killed an NPC before he could offer you his mission.. you had one less to worry about.  ;D
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Post by: Dweller_Benthos on July 29, 2010, 12:21:06 PM
Yeah, my concern is that I will be so into FO3 that I won't want to do anything else, and that gets dangerous!
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Post by: Art Blade on July 29, 2010, 12:28:36 PM
Don't worry, you'd get over that. After perhaps 2 or 3 years playing on a daily basis.  ;D
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Post by: PZ on July 29, 2010, 04:22:08 PM
I don't know... the way D_B plunges deeply into a game it might be a decade or more.  ;D
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Post by: Art Blade on July 29, 2010, 04:27:10 PM
now that you mention it, yes.. indeed.. especially if he decides to map FO3 first.. ;D
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Post by: PZ on July 29, 2010, 04:29:22 PM
Well, whatever he does, I'm sure that we're going to hear about many things that perhaps none of us have discovered yet.  ;)
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Post by: Art Blade on July 29, 2010, 04:38:10 PM
do you mean that he might be going to quote extracts from the manual?
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Post by: PZ on July 29, 2010, 04:45:52 PM
hmmm.... I don't think so - D_B has always come up with completely unique perspectives - ones that I've not ween elsewhere.  ;)
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Post by: Art Blade on July 29, 2010, 04:58:00 PM
No matter what.. he deserves a long gaming period. After mapping FC2 for more than a year he only found time for a speedrun to actually see the game through for the first time. He'd better not start to map FO3 but get right into gaming :)