decided not to run this Question as a poll cos thought would be good to hear the reasons behind the choices. for me it has to be Warren Clyde. cant stand him, always try and kill him asap.
phew... I thought you meant what member would you shoot... :P
I would shoot (and shot already a few times) Paul and Xianyong.. just don't like them.
Paul looks like a spoiled kid, and the notepad says he looks like a backpacker that just happens to be in Africa and I don't think a guy like this should have the status of a merc... its a disgrace to our guild!!
Xianyong is just an @$$hole with his attitude. Will kill him with my flamethower soon!!
Actually, I'm running out of buddies this playthrough as I'm shooting one by one after they give me their missions... there is a reward on this, you probably know ;)
I've killed everyone at one time or another, mostly for specific reasons and I don't regret any of them (well.... the ladies excepted of course...)
:-*
I only kill the one in the North because it has to be done and if my best buddy dies on a mission I replay it.
But otherwise, mercs with sunglasses 8) or disguised as water buffalo or both :D , and anybody driving a Datsun. >:(
Shoot nobody on site, do their missions first, then waste 'em. No just kidding, first play through I saved everyone and reloaded if I had to. (but I didn't know about the 6th buddy).
This time, I didn't let anyone die if I hadn't completed their missions, but they all passed during a fight and they didn't make it even with syringes (difference is I didn't reload this time).
I was left with Josip and Michele at Mike's when Rueben sent me there. Guess what, I knew the mercs outside would get me eventually so quickly turned my MAC10 (i think) on the two of 'em before I got taken down. So I left the North buddyless. I'm going to see if I can get to the landing without a friend...
Quote from: JRD on April 21, 2009, 06:40:28 AM
phew... I thought you meant what member would you shoot... :P
haha, i see how the title could be read that way, characters only.
Does NOBODY else detest Warren Clyde (the arogant, cocky little MF) ?
Yeah dke58, I do hate Warren too and I hate Paul and I hate Xionyong.
The nicest guys are easily Andre and Quarbani. I was sad to see Quarbani bite the dust. I still go back that save game and try to save him once in a while. Damn Syrettes.
I wouldn't really want to kill any of them. But two characters were close to getting killed by me...
1) I killed Quarbani Singh once (he was designated rescue buddy). I did it because he "interfered" with an issue that I wanted to settle with a certain jeep driver who had run me over and Singh got in the line of fire... he died both of bullets and syrettes... all of which were mine. In a Vin Diesel voice: He died because no one survives who watches me kill someone... :-* (hehe) Ok, I admit, I reloaded and hence kept Singh alive.
2) During my previous through Andre was my best buddy and used to get in my way so often and get shot by mercs so often (forcing me to reload missions) that I considered several times to kill him just to have some peace and quiet :) To keep him alive and out of my way, I became him in my current game. Also, when deciding which character to choose for my 2nd through, I thought he fitted best into the environment.
oh, and sorry for that, spaceboy...
I don't like Quarbani. But I cried when Paul died. Good night, sweet prince...
:'(
:(
how come you dislike Quarbani ?
Paul is cool, looks like mate of mine.
As for my dislike of Warren think its mostly his voice, same goes for Flora.
do find it interesting that UBISOFT seem to of tried to be Culturally/Ethnically/Theologically neutral with the characters.
Paul (jewsih); Quarbani & Hakim (muslim); Andre (voodou/catholic); Xianyong (Taoist); i am generalising a fair bit, and please nobody take offence at my musings, personally dont care where anyone is from, blood is red no matter what colour skin/choice of faith/place of birth. i like the fact that we got 9 characters from very different origins. much better than the typical characters that get created (certainly in RPG style games) that are almost always western european looking.
I've always tried to keep all of my buddies alive, except after I ran from the Landing Zone, i backtracked a bit and blew the hell out of a couple of them(cant remember names, ever) who were trying to chase me down.
Quote from: dke58 on April 21, 2009, 11:39:25 PM
how come you dislike Quarbani ?
Paul is cool, looks like mate of mine.
As for my dislike of Warren think its mostly his voice, same goes for Flora.
do find it interesting that UBISOFT seem to of tried to be Culturally/Ethnically/Theologically neutral with the characters.
Paul (jewsih); Quarbani & Hakim (muslim); Andre (voodou/catholic); Xianyong (Taoist); i am generalising a fair bit, and please nobody take offence at my musings, personally dont care where anyone is from, blood is red no matter what colour skin/choice of faith/place of birth. i like the fact that we got 9 characters from very different origins. much better than the typical characters that get created (certainly in RPG style games) that are almost always western european looking.
cheers on that...gave you a +1 karma for it...well said
Quote from: spaceboy on April 21, 2009, 08:58:30 AM
Shoot nobody on site, do their missions first, then waste 'em. No just kidding, first play through I saved everyone and reloaded if I had to. (but I didn't know about the 6th buddy).
This time, I didn't let anyone die if I hadn't completed their missions, but they all passed during a fight and they didn't make it even with syringes (difference is I didn't reload this time).
I was left with Josip and Michele at Mike's when Rueben sent me there. Guess what, I knew the mercs outside would get me eventually so quickly turned my MAC10 (i think) on the two of 'em before I got taken down. So I left the North buddyless. I'm going to see if I can get to the landing without a friend...
I gotta learn how to use the quote system. I agree with spaceboy about no buddies at all...(endgame). I'm gonna try to dao the missions and then get rid ofall the aggage. I hate having to go back and save thier hides as usually if I'm killed without one, I just start at last saved place. Andre was the worst, he just hung and hung and hung around..then he was the first to turn (we all know when). Shoot'em all I say.
Quote from: retiredgord on April 29, 2009, 06:25:32 AM
Shoot'em all I say.
That's my basic policy this time around ;D ;D
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I rescued Josip at the start but never really had any interaction with him until one of the first missions where he tried to get me to "persuade" someone to give false coordinates to some bad guys to do with my primary mission. I didn't get it, he didn't seem to be doing much, so why couldn't he do it while I went on the greater challenge to take them out? I declined his idea and so far, have never heard any more from him except for seeing him at Mike's all the time, looking for a free favour. Seems like he lives in there, and so I haven't had the chance to use him for target practice and put him outta his misery. :-*
Flora was my first rescue buddy introduced at Mike's after talking to the journo. New to the game I had no idea what to expect. She saved my rear a few times, but generally, the way she talked and acted made me not really bond with her. Still, I was alone, and as we all know, it's a jungle out there...
Later, once I met Warren, she moved to being my best buddy. This is the point when things went sour. Everytime I got an assignment, she'd call minutes later and suggest an even more dangerous course of action from the mission. None of the suggestions seemed to be particularly useful or helpful to me, just appeared to be engineered in some way to forward her own political agenda. I figured I was just being used: at least the factions paid in cold hard diamonds for me risking my life. What was she offering? Okay, so she saved me 2 or 3 times, and I did owe her, I guess.
So I did a couple of her detours, but when I got the assignment to tag some gold, she came up with some scheme for me to kill some bigwig King and steal his ring and hand it over to playboy junior who thinks he's the saviour of his people. For a moment I figured, okay, secretly planning to pop both king and prince, but then thought better of it. What has all this got to do with Jackal boy? Which is why I'm out here, afterall.
I declined and then she got nasty, called me a "mendeho" or something! Later she said something about my mother. That was it...
I formulated a plan, I needed to get her out in the open. So I agreed to her next suggestion about meeting her to assist in blowing up some convoy after I did some other job. Had to swim across a river and trek the cliffs in the middle of the night avoiding numerour mercs to reach her, and when I did, I got another rude message about being late as she couldn't do it alone. No harm, I figured it was the stress talking, but when I arrived... everything was on fire and she was nowhere in sight... I was there alone with a burning convoy, ready to be canned as the culprit by every merc in a klick of there, who probably heard the bang and could see the orange glow on the horizon.
I ran like the wind... had she set me up? I bided my time, until another mission at some junkyard when she called needing help. I got there, but didn't make my self known, hid and scouted for her... she had managed to do the job again but was under fire from some mercs. I sat back and watched in anticipation as these mercs might solve my problem for me, but no such luck. She could look after herself, give herr that much. I took out the sniper and lined her up. Not something I'm proud of, but instinct told me she was never on my side to begin with. Who am I after all, just another hired gun without a soul? Little do they know of Marty Alencar, ex-USMC, we have a code... 8)
It took 2 shots as she stumbled around after the first, not a pretty sight as a clear headshot wasn't available.
Warren Clyde replaced her, and he's much easier to get on with. Kinda makes me laugh, his immaturity and oeasy-going confidence, plus I'm in control with him, but I hope he doesn't try to cross me, for his own sake. Got a new rescue buddy which I saved from some downed plane. French girl, seems nice... so at the moment I'm cool with my two partners, don't plan to pop anymore - except maybe Jossip, simply because he's useless, never around or helpful, and always looks like he needs another drink just to finish a sentence. I'd be doing him a favour.
New guys on the scene, Singh and Ferenc. See how they w@&k out... ;)
Nice read, Nick :-X ;)
I too had a problem with Flora, and I recall her asking for my help at a train wreck to the east of PetroSahel. This was the second half of one of the rail yard missions - I was to rush to her aid. However, because she'd annoyed me for a reason that I now can't remember, I rushed to the wreck and just watched as the mercs did her in for me - must have been quite gratifying as I can still recall the incident.
indeed, good read there, Nick :) :-X
Interesting for me given that I'm far away from my first playthrough now, how you see and judge things. I can relate to what you think and do. I guess that I never spent too much of a thought on any of those buddies, they were there and could die or live, I didn't much care after André annoyed me so much by getting into my way so often and it did annoy me very much that he wouldn't miss a single bullet aimed at his general direction. The only reason to do buddy missions is to get something else to do, have some fun, and during main missions, their offer hold an upgrade for your safehouse and its vehicle stationed there, for each side mission accomplished. Other than that, nothing. Today I just randomly do a mission for them or kill them.
Quote from: Art Blade on April 27, 2010, 12:18:19 PM
The only reason to do buddy missions is ... their offer hold an upgrade for your safehouse and its vehicle stationed there, for each side mission accomplished.
Yes, the upgrades are the only tangible game benefits you get from doing your buddies' missions.
I never came across this thread before, so let the record show that my candidate for a lead enema is Xianyong - he's a major anal pain. Last 'thru I played as him just so I wouldn't have to listen to him. Cool tats, though ;D
Fun read btw, Nick :-X
Nasreen irritates the living s@#t.. out of me,
she has an attitude second to none, gonna use her watermellons for target practice the next time I catch her in the open...... >:(
lol ;D
LOL ;D :-X
Quote from: RedRaven on April 21, 2009, 11:39:25 PM
do find it interesting that UBISOFT seem to of tried to be Culturally/Ethnically/Theologically neutral with the characters.
Paul (jewsih); Quarbani & Hakim (muslim); Andre (voodou/catholic); Xianyong (Taoist); i am generalising a fair bit, and please nobody take offence at my musings, personally dont care where anyone is from, blood is red no matter what colour skin/choice of faith/place of birth. i like the fact that we got 9 characters from very different origins. much better than the typical characters that get created (certainly in RPG style games) that are almost always western european looking.
Wouldn't shoot anyone on this site (unless they interfered with my hunting or short-changed me with diamonds)... ;D They're all such luvverly people... :P
Personally, I find all the characters very diverse when it comes to backgrounds, but almost identical when it comes to
modus operandi. They're all out for themselves, they send me on crazy missions to retrieve items, sabotage stuff and assassinate people, and all for NO pay at all! Sigh... The people I have to w@&k with these days!
I always, without exception, kill off at least one buddy in Act One; simply because I want to get all the side missions for all 6 buddies in the north. And this can only happen if one of them dies. So I single out one buddy I dislike, finish him off (either during a buddy rescue mission as the main buddy or when he rescues me) and THEN rescue the sixth buddy.
As for buddy of choice... Warren's all right, if a bit cocky. I agree with the description of Paul though. Backpacker indeed! Xianyong's getting on my nerves at the moment, so I might decide to off him at the first chance I get. :o Josip is probably one of the most "loveable" - a bit like a big teddy bear ;D - and he has some funny lines
"I support whole village back home".
By the way, Quarbani isn't Muslim. He's Sikh. You can tell by the surname (Singh) and his
dastar (Sikh/Punjabi version of a turban). Nasreen could be Muslim as well, being Tajikistani. The rest are appropriately ambiguous - we can pretend they're green-skinned lizards underneath the skin for all we care! (If that helps ease one's conscience when pumpin' them full of lead)
QuoteRe: WHO WOULD YOU SHOOT ON SITE ?
Quote from: mir24 on June 17, 2010, 12:57:15 AM
Wouldn't shoot anyone on this site ... ;D They're all such luvverly people... :P
Excellent ;D :-X
The cheapskate fool that is responsible for the BP oil spill ;D
haha! good one :-X
;D
Quote from: mir24 on June 17, 2010, 12:57:15 AM
...Xianyong's getting on my nerves at the moment...
Geez,
no-one likes this guy...
@PZ: Good choice :-X
I think it's funny that everyone appears to hate Xianyong.
Of all the characters he's my favorite. Sure he's a shifty little rat with an abrasive personality but from the way I see things he's easy to read and keeps his moods close to the surface. He's kind of an open book.
I could keep someone like him around in real life as a friend. He is a rough little cob but I think he has been portrayed as someone who wants to be around people and have friends.
Oh well, that's just my take on his character.
It's funny in my last five or six times playing through FC2 even though I've been going out of my way to keep all the buddies alive for the LZ (except for the mandatory sacrifice in the first game half), Xianyong has been a complete no show.
Quote from: mandru on June 18, 2010, 12:43:21 PM
It's funny in my last five or six times playing through FC2 even though I've been going out of my way to keep all the buddies alive for the LZ (except for the mandatory sacrifice in the first game half), Xianyong has been a complete no show.
You mean Xianyong does not show up at the LZ?
Really?
I don't remember who I saw first time there - Michelle for sure - and on my 2nd and 3rd playthrough I had most of my buddies, if not all, dead by then, so I really can't tell if Xian is a no show for me as well!
Quote from: JRD on June 19, 2010, 10:09:44 AM
You mean Xianyong does not show up at the LZ?
Really?
In all of my recent play throughs Xianyong has not been a BB which would have required him greeting me as I walk up for the diamond case, he's not even been a 2nd BB during those games but he has definitely been alive and managed to stay that way by avoiding me at that part of the game.
If the missing Xianyong effect is intentional by the programmers I can't say. I just don't have enough information to make a guess.
Since you mention it mandru, I don't ever recall seeing Xianyong at the LZ either :-\
If you save him at the prison he's there at the LZ but beyond that I'm not sure.
On my first go I didn`t save my buddy at the prision but it wasn`t Xianyong either... on my second go I saved him but don`t remember seeing him at the LZ :(
Through playing an observation I've made is it's your BB that greets you at the LZ.
I have to admit that I've always rescued the BB at the prison because it means I get to kill the two inquisitors merrily chatting it up outside the interrogation cell.
This is icing on the cake because if you have already cleared out the guards topside you may have noticed that they (at least most of them) are standing over the cell and watching the show of your BB getting the snot kicked out of him/her. It is their enjoyment of that activity that distracts them long enough for you to get armed and set up a surprise ambush to clear out the rat's nest.
(That's funny, those distracted guards seem to have overlooked my grenades before dumping me into that cell ;) ).
If you look down through the grates on the open court yard where most of the prison staff are hanging out you can see your injured BB awaiting the next round of questioning.
I guess it's just never occurred to me to 'not rescue my buddy' and slaughter all the scum running the prison. :-*
I once didn't rescue him on purpose (but slayed the guards) so I could find out whether or not it makes a difference regarding notoriety, but it doesn't matter and changes nothing. I don't know who showed up at the LZ to greet me though. I didn't pay attention to those who were already dead without knowing it yet ;)
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this little idiot, but I would kill the Prince, the one that has you assassinate his father the king.
Smug arrogant little a$$hole. I have even tried to set the safe-house on fire to see if I could get him to come out and get his.
Now that is a mod I would love to see made.
Does anyone have any idea as to how to get him, I would be willing to replay just to get him. I would love to go "Gomer Pyle" on his a$$. (see below)
BTW JRD, I love your avatar. I have been a big fan of Vincent D'Onofrio ever since his Gomer Pyle in "Full Metal Jacket", his roles in "Men in Black" and his "Law and Order CI".
Quote from: Stryker7 on July 15, 2010, 10:16:18 PMDoes anyone have any idea as to how to get him
Yes :)
Check out Kill the King (and the Prince, too) (http://openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?topic=681.msg8527#msg8527) and The door gap trick (http://openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?topic=212.msg19904#msg19904) (click on the quote's source to read the actual tip #36) ;)
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Thanks for the tip, I thought I had tried several methods, i know I tried to set the SH ablaze. Will have to start my 4th trip in hardcore mode just so I can kill that SOB.
Quote from: Stryker7 on July 15, 2010, 10:16:18 PM
BTW JRD, I love your avatar. I have been a big fan of Vincent D'Onofrio ever since his Gomer Pyle in "Full Metal Jacket", his roles in "Men in Black" and his "Law and Order CI".
Cheers, mate!
His expression in this scene when he shoots the drill sargent is the synthesis of what war can make of a man!
Great actor, great scene, great movie!!
Quote from: JRD on July 21, 2010, 10:21:07 AM
His expression in this scene when he shoots the drill sargent is the synthesis of what war can make of a man!
JRD, not to contradict you, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but that scene is while they are still in boot-camp. He hasnt seen a minute of action.
But it does remind me what a lifer marine uncle of mine told me once. During the 60's and early 70's, Marine drill sergeants were so tough on their recruits, that they were relieved to be going to Vietnam.
Erm, isn't the entire film taking place in boot-camp only? (at least I don't remember any war scenes)
The first part takes place at bootcamp, then after the scene that JRD mentions the film switches to Vietnam.
Thanks :) I ought to watch it again sometime. I've got the DVD sitting somewhere on my shelves among loads of other discs..
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Yeah, I always put up with the buddies and keep them alive for the upgrades and because I've gotten to the point I enjoy the clam bake we have towards the end of the game. ;D
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Darn, I was hoping to see some good FC2 conversation going again ;)
well, it actually is kind of on topic.. "who would you shoot on site" (this time that typo, site rather than sight, makes sense) :-()
long arm of the law has struck again.......................... :-X
Quote from: Art Blade on January 12, 2011, 11:54:08 AM
"who would you shoot on site" (this time that typo, site rather than sight, makes sense) :-()
oh.... I interpreted that to mean that there was a disgruntled member intending harm toward someone here at OWG ????
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Actually, there is another typo, whom rather than who, so who's shooting whom on sight on which site? ;D SOOOORRY :-()
Oh and nexor,
Quote from: nexor63 on January 12, 2011, 12:18:40 PM
long arm of the law has struck again.......................... :-X
long arm but a short, crisp punch >:D
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