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Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: Fiach on May 10, 2009, 12:28:41 AM
Why leave the forum just because you completed FC2? Stick around, maybe hide the walking canes, lay down some tacks for the wheelchair tyres, hide the Ex-lax  ;D

Going to get some Fallout 3 after FC1, what a huge game!

I started playing that game and I hit the level cap (20) before I even got to the main storyline, so I stopped playing, I knew they would have to raise the cap somehow.

Now with the Broken Steel DLC, the level cap is raised to 30, so I can continue the story.

For anyone who hasnt played FO3, I highly recommend it, its an open world game like FC2, but the landscape is a post nuclear apoclypse world, barren and ruined, with lots of kitch 1950's references.

The quests are top class too, making you ponder over alot of the choices you will have to make.
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on May 10, 2009, 03:08:15 AM
I've always turned the music off in all my games. I find its a distraction. in this case, I want to hear all the sounds in my surroundings, which really add to the immersion for me. In my racing games, I want to hear the engine sounds.

The other bonus, is there's less drain on your PC whilst playing, if the music's off.
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on May 10, 2009, 04:31:31 AM
Sometimes I break out of FC2 and play a little FO3. It is great because they have an editor (Eden kit) with which you can edit properties of everything, create new NPC (non player characters) and modify weapons etc to your taste. Like that, you can change the game experience massively. I used to "mod" Oblivion, which has the same engine, more or less, and therefore found modding FO3 easy. The level-up was no issue for me, I too was quickly at 20. But the missions... I have a guide, comparable to prima guide of FC2, only it has 450+ pages LOL

Now looking forward to FUEL, but will continue playing FC2. Of course  ;D
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: PZ on May 10, 2009, 09:34:01 AM
Fallout 3 sounds like my kind of game - I've been detailing why I like FC2 so much, and here's why the game suits my personal tastes:ahhhh.... I still love this game.....
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on May 10, 2009, 09:46:00 AM
FallOut3 has plasma guns and mutants (alien-like stuff) yet it is a wasteland and HUGE. You can "walk the earth" (once again that line haha) for literally hours. Like in FC2, you don't have map loading times (other than for example Crysis)
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: PZ on May 10, 2009, 09:48:59 AM
Well, it sounds like something to explore one of these days!
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on May 10, 2009, 10:01:31 AM
it is another game that takes a lot of time to see it all. I think it is great, but gee... if you like FC2, FUEL and all the new stuff... I'd not really go "back" to FO3 now. The graphics are somewhat old since it is based on The Elder Scrolls IV "Oblivion" which isn't exactly up to date. With your machine, you'd feel like having to put horses to the front of your car to move it around  ;)
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: PZ on May 10, 2009, 10:10:43 AM
ahhhh... I see.... I appreciate the feedback - maybe if I can rent it for cheap, it might be something to consider.
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on May 10, 2009, 10:32:55 AM
For something quick, funny and violent you might want to take a look at Kane&Lynch. Not open world, yet you have to explore certain maps to get the job done. Black humour...  ;D

[smg id=400]
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: Fiach on May 10, 2009, 11:22:19 AM
The shooting in K&L left alot to be desired, did they ever patch it?

Just to clarify about the guns in FO3, the energy weapons are special weapons that you have to skill up for, there are also regular weapons available with their own skill sets or you can melee your way through the game with melee skills.

I thought the gfx in FO3 were quite good, but I played on the 360, so maybe on PC its different, it does have a slight Far Cry 2 connection.....

Oh bongo bongo bongo I dont wanna leave the Congo oh no no no.
Bingo bango bongo I'm so happy in the Congo I refuse to go ....


Catchiest song on the planet methinks :D
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on May 10, 2009, 12:01:33 PM
can't remember if they patched K&L, and it neither is very best of graphics... it is based on Hitman BloodMoney, which I still love, but K&L is not so deep as FO3. Just have fun, be done.  :)
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: JRD on May 11, 2009, 07:49:59 AM
Quote from: Art Blade on May 10, 2009, 12:01:33 PM
can't remember if they patched K&L, and it neither is very best of graphics... it is based on Hitman BloodMoney, which I still love, but K&L is not so deep as FO3. Just have fun, be done.  :)

I saw a video review of FO3... although it seemed a game I could easily enjoy, it also can be a game I get to hate.
I'm not too fond of deep RPG games as I think it's sometimes too slow paced and complicated. For instance, I remember a complicated system of shooting an enemy... you could aim and chose (!!!) where to hit the enemy and you never miss the shot. The game was kind of "frozen" while you are chosing. A firefight like that was as exciting as playing cards with your grandma!!
Although I reckon the replay value of games like FO3... it's endless, as you can finish the game in a hundred different ways!
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: spaceboy on May 11, 2009, 08:23:13 AM
Before FO3 came out I was sure I would want it, but the choose your shot thing while paused did turn me off a bit.  Anyways I rented it and didn't get past the birthday party - I just wanted to get out and explore.  Now that said, I'm someone who needs to invest in my games and music.  Normally rented/borrowed/free stuff never resonates with me, if I'm interested enough in something to commit $ to it - I generally will end up really liking it.  A rental often doesn't give you enough time to "get into it".
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on May 11, 2009, 08:27:37 AM
that's why I (usually carefully) decide to buy. The only things I rent are cars and flats (apartments)  ;D
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: RedRaven on May 11, 2009, 09:51:48 AM
after first finish restarted PC, cut all saves from game folder and put them somewhere safe then got straight back into it with run thru 2. couldnt wait to try things not done in first game. then started couple other games themed around either a character or set of weapons. Such a GREAT game.

EDIT-- oops. what i said above is about FC2 not Fallout3 <sorry  :-\>

did play fallout3 tho, bit like morrowind with guns, didnt grab me the same way FC2 has, so gave it a mate to try. FC2 is my fave.
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on May 11, 2009, 09:55:10 AM
you speak my mind there, dke58 :)  :-X
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: Fiach on May 11, 2009, 09:59:17 AM
LOL, that "freeze" is awesome! Think Headshot in slo-mo.

Some enemies have to be targeted in certain areas eg a giant ants "antennae", if you shoot them off, they go berzerk, but having no "senses" left, they attack the nearest thing to them, if a creature uses leaping attacks, if you immobilise a leg, they cannot perform the leap attack.

The birthday party thing is slow, yes, but its to introduce you to the stats system and how to build your character and assign your points, because the system is so deep, you can build a pretty unique character, eg, the choice of gender even makes a difference, if you pick a female, you get a particular "perk" (Black Widow) that will allow you to direct conversations in a certain way.

The list of "perks" is just bonkers, there is one, its called Mysterious Stranger, where during some fights a guy will turn up out of the blue, looks like a gangster, he has a .44 magnum that does 9k damage to help you, theres another one called Sandman, which gives you extra XP if you kill people that are asleep!

Its a great game tbh. :)
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on May 11, 2009, 10:03:00 AM
I love the perk that lets enemies explode in a gut-churning eye-ball strewn paste  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: spaceboy on May 11, 2009, 10:26:01 AM
Well I do respect your guys opinions, I may have to give FO3 another chance!  When I get a chance later tonight, I'll split this thread so we can have an FO3 off topic.  Time is tight right now...
Title: Fall Out 3
Post by: Fiach on May 11, 2009, 10:37:57 AM
That perk is called Bloody Mess (desc. By some strange twist of fate, people around you die violently. You always see the worst way a person can die. ).

It also gives you a bonus of 5% extra damage, but ..... it will impar your progress in the "You gotta shoot them in the head" quest, as some of the kills may not count as head shots, because other body parts get destroyed too.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: JRD on May 11, 2009, 04:49:56 PM
As spaceboy suggested, I've split this discussion about Fall Out 3 into a new specific topic.
We can continue here to talk about that game... which I might play one of these days ;)
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on May 11, 2009, 04:54:25 PM
there are buddies too, JRD :) Even a dog.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: JRD on May 11, 2009, 05:06:33 PM
And what about the endings?
I've read the story branches so much that you can have hundreds of ends... but are they that different?
I mean, if you choose to play like each-man-for-himself and help only those that you can take any profit from and, on another playthrough, you play as a good samaritan guy... does the story changes and adapt or only a few small details are different.....
I don't mind spoilers, so if you want to give me details on your experience, go ahead!!

I know I can trust the opinion of the members here....  :-X
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: spaceboy on May 11, 2009, 06:12:49 PM
Quote from: JRD on May 11, 2009, 04:49:56 PM
As spaceboy suggested, I've split this discussion about Fall Out 3 into a new specific topic.
We can continue here to talk about that game... which I might play one of these days ;)

Thanks bud!  Always a friendly helping hand at OWG  :-X
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Fiach on May 11, 2009, 08:42:58 PM
I think there are three endings, they were "final" like Heart of Darkness, but the latest DLC called Broken Steel has changed that, you can continue after the ending, with a few more quests and perks and a raised level cap.

You can hae I think 3 friends, one at a time, but you can change at will. Each one has a karma value, Good, Neutral and Evil, they are all very good additions, with their own quests.

You can rescue a dog and he will become your companion too (plus one other), he will also help you fight, alot of people dont like the dog, because he dies too easily, but I never had a problem. If he does die, he will resurrect after a period of one week game time, which you can fast forward, as in FC2.

There is a new perk that allows the dog to have pups, not sure how it is implemented yet, I think if the dog dies, you get a pup to replace him immediately or something like that.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on May 12, 2009, 05:01:23 AM
there are many more buddies you can have. Like 3x3 plus dog (I don't remember the exact count). Whom to choose depends on if you are good, neutral or evil. Also, "buddies" are in different locations or are "available" after certain missions. Imagine you are good and chose an evil buddy. When you'd enter a cease fire zone (they sort of exist there too) and behave, your evil buddy might start to shoot at someone you wouldn't want dead... so it is well-thought-out you can actually pick only a buddy that suits your style. If you should change your attitude, your buddy might leave you and you might choose a different buddy who does fit your new role.

As for the end, it is told as a tale of your life, depicted like a slide show. What you did (or did not) do affects how the story is told and what pictures show. There are like 15 different endings, if my memory serves me right. Until that epilogue you have no special game branches since it is not linear. How you play only affects if you can get a mission done or if you are offered certain missions.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Fiach on May 12, 2009, 10:29:25 AM
Wow, I never knew there were so many buddies!

I met the paladin, the robot and Charon, I like Charon the best, but the other two were OK too :)

Its amazing how deep this game is, I'm still finding new stuff out lol :)
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on May 12, 2009, 10:39:59 AM
I too like Charon best (his voice and lines... "HAH! Can't you stand the sight of your own blood?!") hehe
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Fiach on May 14, 2009, 02:46:39 AM
Just a heads up, I was in a charity shop yesterday (sometimes they sell audio books, which I can listen to while driving, if I get bored) and picked up the strategy guide for FO3.

OMG, its (no joking) the same size as The Guinness Book of Records, Hard back cover and just wall to wall information on FO3, all the quests, some great insights into the quests as well, weapons, monsters, perks etc. Its absolutely huge and I recommend it very highly to anyone with an interest in FO3
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on May 14, 2009, 09:15:13 AM
mine is paperback, still like 450+ pages of finest info. And funny too... Example: The book tells you that you can pickpocket other characters (nothing special). Then they ask you to try it the other way round: put a live hand grenade into someone's pocket and watch him freak out before he explodes LOL
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: SoulFallen on May 21, 2009, 09:57:12 AM
Funny thing is, I played this game before I ever played Oblivion. I played this game on the 360 when I still had one, and I was immediately sucked into the atmosphere.  My boyfriend, being a huge fan of the whole post-apocalyptic scene, introduced me to this game.  Since then, I've played it more than he has!!!!  I was only able to get the Anchorage DLC and I have not yet played the other two.  I have FO3 for PC but I have yet to find bootleg versions of the new DLCs that actually w@&k.

I'll keep trying though.


Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Kokopelli on May 21, 2009, 03:03:51 PM
Quote from: Art Blade on May 11, 2009, 10:03:00 AM
I love the perk that lets enemies explode in a gut-churning eye-ball strewn paste  ;D ;D ;D

Yeah, that was one of the first perks I took.  Unfortunately for them, Moira Brown and Confessor Cromwell have been the unlucky recipients of that perk several times.  ;D


-SoulFallen

This game is a lot like Oblivion in the sense that there is a lot to do.  I have been playing it off and on since February, and have yet to leave Section 8 on the map.  I have just been exploring, looting, visiting the sites, and wrecking havoc in Megaton.  When I played Oblivion, it was the same way, although I haven't played it in a while.  I might pick it up for the 360 seeing as the computer cannot run it well.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Fiach on May 23, 2009, 01:57:16 AM
I have Oblivion and its expansions on PC, I believe there was some problem with the expansions on the 360 version.

May be a good idea to check that out first, before buying it for 360, I dont think the expansions woked very well or something like that.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: RedRaven on May 23, 2009, 02:15:37 AM
had Morrowind Elder Scrolls with its two expansions, enjoyed the character creation side of it, but found game play a little slow. So when played FO3 it seemed very much like Morrowind with Guns, specially the scenery,(must be same group of artists/designers i guess) dont get me wrong tho, enjoyed playing it but after finishing it went out and got Farcry2 which i find much more compelling. will prob have to play FO3 again and try Oblivion too at some point. ;D
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on May 23, 2009, 02:21:05 AM
you're right, Bethesda is responsible for both Oblivion and FallOut3, and the game engine is similar (FO3 uses a "pimped" version).

The real fun starts with modding it yourself using those tools, ie EDEN kit for FO3.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Fiach on May 23, 2009, 04:02:39 AM
Apparently Obsidian are making FO4 New Vegas, they have members that worked on the original Fallout games, so it should be interesting.

Must try to get FO3 finished and get the DLC, Broken Steel is supposed to be really good.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on October 18, 2009, 01:08:54 PM
Sorry to ressurect an old thread, but i finally decided to buy FO3(FO3 GOTY edtion actually) That just came out and gives you the original game plus all the DLC stuff.

I've played about 10 hrs so far, and i think im @ level 4, and just wandering around the area in and around Megaton. I find the compass/map way of finding your way around kind of awkward, so i may or may not complete a quest, dpending on if i get lost or not. :-[

The world is epically HUGE!! Im not a huge fan of RPG's, as they are enormously complicated beasts, and this is the poster boy for complicated and detailed to death, but, it's keeping me pretty much obsessed the way FC2 did the first couple of playthrus. I'm even lying in bed at night thinking about that game now. ;D

I find the HUD thingy pretty cool, but you get to carry an unrealistic amount of kit around with you, and so far(playing on easy) i've not bothered with the V.A.T.S system, where you get to call a time out and select the best part of your enemy to blow off. ::) Kind of spoils the immersion factor imho.

One thing about this particular open world, where i found FC2 's world stunning and sometimes uplifting, the utter devastation of FO3's world is depressing after a while. Also, i don't think the Havoc game engine can even come close to FC2's Dunia engine. Everything in FO3 is in varying shades of brown or green; i mean everything, and playing at night, is totally black and white, like being part of a pen and ink drawing.

I'll keep you all posted on my progess, or lack of it. Hopefully, if i run into problems, someone here can give me a hint. ;)
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on October 18, 2009, 01:17:20 PM
sure will :) glad you finally got something that keeps you busy  ;D
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: deadman1 on October 18, 2009, 01:24:22 PM
Here´s a hint: Start getting used to the VATS system at your present level because as you get higher you´re really going to need it  :)
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: PZ on October 19, 2009, 08:45:35 PM
Looking forward to your experiences Ricamundo - have been vacillating about this game since I read about it half a year ago. Although I like some of the new games I've recently purchased, I still return to Africa time and again (to experience the beauty and danger) - still have not found the replacement for FC2.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on October 20, 2009, 12:03:24 PM
hehe, you make it sound as if you wished for a replacement :) I'm glad I got FC2 and in my opinion it has by far not lost any of its beauty and fun :)
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: PZ on October 20, 2009, 12:13:15 PM
Not exactly a replacement perhaps, but another game like it to enjoy as much.  However, in an idea gaming world, I would have loved to see a mission editor in which users could create SP missions for others to enjoy, or at least another DLC containing mission packs.

EDIT: in re-thinking, maybe I am looking for an FC2 replacement.  I recall months ago being extremely excited whenever I had half a day or more to play FC2.  The eager anticipation while starting the game was a unique for me - not experienced with any of the games I've played subsequent to that.  Although each of the recently purchased games are OK, none compares to the magic of FC2.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on October 21, 2009, 11:39:25 AM
I see. Well, I consider FC2 the best game I have... until a better one pops up  ;D

I am not actively looking for it, but it may happen eventually.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: RedRaven on December 24, 2009, 04:43:41 AM
For those of you playing FO3 you may find this Tweak guide useful.

http://www.tweakguides.com/Fallout3_1.html (http://www.tweakguides.com/Fallout3_1.html)
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: PZ on December 25, 2009, 11:09:12 AM
Excellent tips site, Red  :-X
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on December 26, 2009, 03:29:01 AM
Thx for the linkage RR. :-X I tweaked my settings a bit, now that i have a clue as to what some of the advanced settings did. I havent been out in thew wastes much to test the new settings, yet. im collecting plasma rifles in Raven Rock atm. ;)
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: RedRaven on December 26, 2009, 06:36:52 AM
First stumbled across that site a year or so ago when Stalker was all I ever played, found his guides very handy, even if you only discover one new thing from them. He also does ones for XP & Vista, reckon Windows 7 guide will not be too far off either. Find it very refreshing that people go to the trouble to create and share things like the Tweak guides, almost enough to restore my faith in the innate good in humanity, sadly lost in many many other aspects of life.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on December 26, 2009, 06:58:07 AM
The good we take for granted, the bad is what sticks out. It's normal to remember bad stuff for a long time and to talk about it much more often than good stuff. There are certainly more good people out there, than meets the eye.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on December 26, 2009, 10:42:33 AM
I've run into a bit of a mystery. SPOILER...  Charon and i were on the MQ and we were told to go to V87 via Little Lamplight to retreive the GECK.

In the vault, i found the GECK, and last time i saw him, Charon was nearby, so we were heading back, when i was bushwhacked by the Enclave bastids and that Col Whazizname. (I had forgotten about this part, which you cannot avoid) So i go thru the RR HQ and find President Eden, and convince him to destroy itself, and RR.

I made my escape back to the wastes, and expected Charon to meet me there, but no sign of him. BTW i didnt have any other buddies with me just Chartn, so i have no idea where he is. I went back thru LL into V87, and found the friendly Mute(forget his name atm lol) wandering around, so i recruited him, since Charon had vanished.

I did go into Underworld alone, to see if he went back to the 9th Circle, but no luck. I've been back to Megaton and all over clearing up details, and selling as much junk as possible before i head out to the Riverboat mish.

I will take the Mute, but i'd prefer Charon. Any idea where i could find him?
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on December 26, 2009, 11:14:12 AM
Two ways:

jump to him or let him jump to you. First you need his ID, and therefore a previous savegame. Once you got it, open the console ("~") and click with your mouse on him through the console, you should get his name and ID show up on top of the screen, write it down, and close the console (again "~").

Now load your current game (where he is missing) and open the console. Type "prid" then a gap, then the ID you wrote down (the combination of numbers and letters you like so much) and hit enter. Now you should see again his name and ID on top of the screen. If you don't see it, like if you got an error, then you either didn't use the proper ID (the one you gained from clicking on him through the console) or a savegame that won't help (different ID than in your current game).

If you see the name and ID (let's pretend it was 12345678), open the console and type

player.placeatme 12345678

now you should have him right by your side :)

Else, to jump to him, if you are curious where the heck he's been, then instead type

player.moveto 12345678

Please let me know if it worked.


Edit:

Just noticed, if you really recruited a designated buddy (not using a random mod allowing you to recruit anyone) then Charon is no longer your buddy. Usually a new recruit won't allow you to recruit him as long as you still have a buddy, at least he should tell you about it.

If you just lose a buddy or cancel his contract, they will walk back to their base, in your case the 9th circle, but it may take a couple of in-game days.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on December 27, 2009, 03:31:10 AM
Thx Art. ;D I never cancelled his contract, but perhaps you're right about Charon needing a couple of game days to return to Underworld. I did ask Fawkes to tag along, since i didnt have enough good karma last playthru for him to follow me.

ATM, i've just started the Point Lookout DLC, and even tho i could get Fawkes to follow me onto the riverboat, the game informed me after it started, that fawkes has returned to the Museum Of History, so when i get back, i'll have to check out wether charon is back, or not. For the amount of the main game i have left to do, i may just keep Fawkes, if charon is still missing.

An interesting side note, the graphics enhancements that the mods have brought to the main game, don't seem to w@&k in PL. Everythings gone green again. I had forgotten how ugly and depressing the original landscape looked.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: PZ on December 27, 2009, 01:51:53 PM
That's interesting about the graphics - have you tried seeing if you have the latest versions of the environment mods?  I thought that they are supposed to w@&k with all the DLC lands.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on December 28, 2009, 03:24:48 AM
Quote from: PZ on December 27, 2009, 01:51:53 PM
That's interesting about the graphics - have you tried seeing if you have the latest versions of the environment mods?  I thought that they are supposed to w@&k with all the DLC lands.

I'll have to check that, but i played OA a week or 2 ago, and im pretty sure it used the enhancements. Im barely off the riverboat in PL so i'll see if things change in the swamps.

EDIT... I just checked nexus, and there's a separate fellout mod for PL, so i just installed it, and hopefully it'll w@&k out ok. 8)
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: PZ on December 28, 2009, 09:19:42 AM
Quote from: Ricamundo on December 28, 2009, 03:24:48 AM
EDIT... I just checked nexus, and there's a separate fellout mod for PL, so i just installed it, and hopefully it'll w@&k out ok. 8)

Good luck with it Ricamundo - let us know how it goes.  :-X
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on December 29, 2009, 02:21:29 AM
Point Lookout is noticeably less green now, thank goodness. One interesting side effect of  the Greenworld mod made one of my missions in Point Lookout a bit more difficult. You must enter a cave and make contact with a tribal leader, but the location of the leader is almost completely obscured by trees. >:(
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: PZ on December 29, 2009, 08:04:41 AM
That's an interesting unintended consequence - I've not done any of the additional content maps yet - good tip  :-X
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on December 30, 2009, 04:10:57 AM
My fave, of the DLC's that ive played, has to be PL, mainly because it is similar to the main game, in that its a wide open land full of interesting locations to explore. It isnt some kind of "simulation" like OA, which is more linear, and traditional in feel, not that OA isnt  fun, because it is, very much so.

I've now just returned from PL on the riverboat, with a ton of loot and caps, so i'll be busy selling up a storm, then i'll have to return to the Museum Of History as see if Charon has showed up, or grab Fawkes for the final mission of the game.

Then i'm hoping Broken Steel will actually w@&k this time.

Oh, one more thing. I had read, whilst perusing old pages on the Beth FO3 forums, that some, if not all the instability and CTD's may be caused by using the Qicksaves, as well as the auto saves that are by default on.

I have turned off all the auto saves, and stopped using the QS, which requires a little self dicipline to remember to hit esc/save every few minutes, but knock on wood, it's been stable as a rock the last week. 8)
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: PZ on December 30, 2009, 09:48:42 AM
Thanks for the info - I'm doing the Anchorage missions now, and it is quite linear much like the COD varieties.

I too read somewhere about the quick saves, and auto saves - disabled them several weeks ago and have not had crashes to date (other than the occasional mod)
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on December 30, 2009, 10:44:35 AM
Well i finished the game just now. When i went into Underworld, i passed by fawkes first because i wanted to see if charon was back, and there he was in the 9th Circle, but he went postal as soon as i walked in. He killed everyone there snd was now shooting at me, so i had to get outts there. >:(

I reloaded and same thing, so i took Fawkes, and finished the game. Unfortunately, Broken Steel is still broken. It simply wont start, no matter how i end the game. I enter the code, or the girl, it makes no difference. I asked fawkes, but he refused. sigh. :D
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on December 30, 2009, 12:47:11 PM
you appear to have a really rotten aura, Ricamundo  ;D ;D ;D

No idea why everyone goes mental around you  :( You should disable the ArtMod and reload a savegame that puts you somewhere outside of the 9th circle before you met Charon. Then save and reload that savegame. See if Charon acts properly, if so, save. Enable ArtMod again and reload the last save. Should w@&k then :)
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on December 30, 2009, 02:00:56 PM
Quote from: Art Blade on December 30, 2009, 12:47:11 PM
you appear to have a really rotten aura, Ricamundo  ;D ;D ;D

No idea why everyone goes mental around you  :( You should disable the ArtMod and reload a savegame that puts you somewhere outside of the 9th circle before you met Charon. Then save and reload that savegame. See if Charon acts properly, if so, save. Enable ArtMod again and reload the last save. Should w@&k then :)

yeah, i wonder about me sometimes. ;) I mean i dont smell bad or anything.. ;D
anywho, i have fawkes for now, so i'll see how he works out.

But, i had a bit of a brainstorm a little while ago, since once again, at the ending BS didn't start. But, i tried disabling all my mods except for Artmod, and the DLC's and voila! It worked!  8)

I have re enabled pretty much everything except fellout and greenworld and played for a while, and next time ill try everything else except Fellout Broken Steel and see if its ok.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on December 30, 2009, 02:14:28 PM
good, I'm glad to know that you can play on. I really only once had a problem with dogmeat when I sent him away, he and Charon turned at each other, but it only happened under those circumstances.

However, I would have liked to watch your Charon going mental, over at the 9th circle  ;D
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on December 31, 2009, 03:23:05 AM
Quote from: Art Blade on December 30, 2009, 02:14:28 PM
good, I'm glad to know that you can play on. I really only once had a problem with dogmeat when I sent him away, he and Charon turned at each other, but it only happened under those circumstances.

However, I would have liked to watch your Charon going mental, over at the 9th circle  ;D

I did pause at the main doors to watch actually. Charon was upstairs near the doors to the 9th Circle. i could hear his taunts, and i saw all the underworld residents grab a weapon and run upstairs. A brief firefight ensued, and then silence as Charon was unconcsious. Then, of course, he woke up and finished off the rest. I got out of there before he came downstairs, tho. ;)
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Art Blade on December 31, 2009, 03:25:10 AM
He always makes me laught when I can't see but hear him, the taunts, the moments of silence when he's unconscious, and then when he resumes his rampage  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on January 01, 2010, 04:18:44 AM
I'm enjoying Broken Steel so far. I can't be sure, but i think there may be something brewing with the Chinese. 8)
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on January 06, 2010, 06:00:28 AM
Well, i finished BS yesterday, and enjoyed it quite a lot. Like most of the DLC's, except Point Lookout, Broken Steel is a more traditional linear(ish) style, where you have to follow along the main path for the most part.

I don't want to give away too much, so i wont say any more, so if you have it, go ahead and play it. I will say this tho, after completion, you do come back to the main game, so you can continue with other quests, and any unfinished explorations. 8)
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on January 06, 2010, 08:13:09 AM
Oddly, when i went to play FO3 today, the FOMM launcher wont start, but i can play thru the regular FO3 launcher.

I've had a few annoying problems the last couple of days with my internet. it was alternating between normal, and really slow, even in the early hours when i get up. >:(

I thrn did something i hadnt done for a long time, i ventured to windows update, and installed a whole wack of security updates, as well as running the latest malicious software removal tool (found nowt), a virus scan, and a Spybot S&D run. Nothing unusual was found. I also decided to change my AV back to AVG v9.0, the free one.

Anyways, all of these cjhanges might have done something to FOMM, although what i have no idea. When i start FOMM, a window pops up and says "F)MM has encountered a problem and must close. There is no reason given.

Could my Windows update have done something to Windows Live, which i believe FOMM disconnects?
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: PZ on January 06, 2010, 11:48:43 AM
Sorry to hear about your FOMM problem - the activities you mentioned doing should not have done anything - perhaps it is as you suggest - a Windows Live issue.  I'm at a loss however as to what to do - you might reinstall Games Live and see of FOMM recovers.  You could also do a reinstall of FOMM to be sure Spybot didn't do anything to it.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: RedRaven on January 06, 2010, 12:46:45 PM
The tweak guide I posted a link for earlier in this topic (post #44) may help, it mentions something about windows live as well as a section about mods. Beyond that I couldnt say as not got it installed at the moment. Hope you manage to resolve it though.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on January 10, 2010, 04:52:11 AM
Thx for the suggestions, guys. I tried reinstalling FOMM, but it still wont start, but as i mentioned, i can still play F)3 thru the old launcher with all mods working. The only issue is that i would not be able to add any new mods, or alter the current order, etc.

Since im 99.9% the way thru this playthru, i'll leave well enough alone. I'm scavenging around the wasteland looking for cameras, and sensor modules for one of the Brotherhood scientists, and still trading weapons and stuff with the merchants.(up to 160,000 caps now), but when i've finally had enough of FO3 for a while, i'm planning on starting a fresh session of FC2, which i've barely touched since last October.(yes amazing, i know, but that's how good a modded FO3 is, to me). 8)

I'm also keeping an eye out for anything new in sandbox FPS for the PC. Hopefully there will be something good in 2010!
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: PZ on January 10, 2010, 12:55:10 PM
Sorry to hear of your continuing difficulties - the only thing I can think of is one or more of your anti-malware programs that might be blocking it.

You might check this out - does not require a mod esp/esm to be installed, but simply replaces the clothing textures.  Gone are the boring drab clothes in the vanilla game.  This is to the clothing as Fellout is to the environment.

Knightmares prewar clothing (http://openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?topic=1150.msg20323#msg20323)
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on January 14, 2010, 05:54:56 AM
I'm continueing to scavenge around the wastes, now on the lookout for cameras, and more sensor modules for the Citadel scientist. This quest pays out handsomely i have to say. 8) I finally got the last of the Bobbleheads yesterday, but i had to print off a list of Bobbleheads, and their locations, and then in my Meg house go over each one to find out which 1 i was missing. Turns out it was "Endurance". It is in a rather hard to find location, but believe me, it was worth it, for the loot, and weapons i found therein, besides the Bobblehead.

I don't know if i should state where i found it, but it's a cavern that has to be one of the most difficult and confusing layouts in the game. if it weren't for the local map on my Pipboy, i'd probably still be wandering around in there.

I was a little disappointed that there was no "Tada!!" moment from the game, when i installed the final Bobblehead on the display thingy. I had thought i remember reading about some kind of reward for collecting all 20, but perhaps i was wrong. :(

One more question for you guys. As i've mentioned, the FOMM program still will not start, but i've been using the regulat FO3 starter with no issues. All my previously installed mods w@&k fine, but here's what im wondering. Whenever i complete a game, whether its F)3, FC2, or whetaever, i go in and delete all my old saves, and start a fresh playthru. Now, if i did that with FO3 in its current state, with the FOMM thing not working, would a fresh playthru of F)3, i mean right from birth, etc, mean that i would lose all my working mods?

Perhaps when i start a new playthru, i should keep my old saves up to when i exit V101. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: PZ on January 14, 2010, 06:25:36 AM
You should be safe deleting all of the saves.  The mods are not dependent on the saved games.  Also, if you want to install new mods, you should be able to place them in the data folder as usual and a new check box should appear in the FO3 loader.  That way you can add new mods if you choose to do so.

One thing you might do - save your data folder to another location when you install a complex mod with textures and meshes - that way if the new mod ruins the game you can always get back to your former state by copying the old folder back (after deleting the corrupt one).  In fact, I did a fresh install of FO3 just to have a backup on another drive.  Now I never need reinstall again - all I need do is copy the backup and it's done.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on January 14, 2010, 09:36:16 AM
Thx PZ. I asked about the savegames because, like in FC2, i have 100's of saves in my FO3 folder right now, and i want to delete em all, and before i start another playthru of something, do a disc cleanup and defrag.

im not sure if there's any mods that i want, just yet. I love my present line up, and since i stopped using the auto and quicksaves, ive had no crashie crashies as Fawkes likes to say. ;D
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: PZ on January 14, 2010, 10:08:28 AM
I'm not having issues either, and I've installed some major texture/mesh mods that have new NPCs, quests, buildings, etc.  One of the reasons is that my dim eyes finally saw that you could click the esp/esm file in FOMM and see what dependencies it has.  Make sure that all of the files it is dependent on are above the load order and all is well in the waste land - have not had a crash since.

There is another program that you might investigate - FO3Edit which reports any conflicts you may have, and even allows you to create a patch to circumvent any of those.  The only caveat is that it takes a bit of time to figure it our, but you end up with a perfectly running game.
Title: Re: Fall Out 3
Post by: Ricamundo on January 15, 2010, 04:45:39 AM
I did install and create a masterpatch using FO3Edit a while back. :-X