For a month now on my desktop rig there has been a non-removable icon for Windows 10 down in the active service field of the task bar. I'm running Win 7 and for my gaming rig it has proven to be a reliable workhorse. I have had no real significant complaints.
My over-sized Vaio tablet (which has never connected to the internet after its initial set up) that I use to keep my sheet music organized is loaded with Win 8. I absolutely despise that OS and the fact that I have to waste a half minute or so of my access time opening up through the freaking App screen to get over to the desk top where everything I need to do is located and laid out in the icons that I need for this unit's sole function. Once switched over to the Vaio's desktop even though it's hidden and I can't see it I know that the App menu is still functioning and like a blood sucking parasite leaching off my available CPU cycles slowing down everything else I need loaded and running. ba$t@rd Apps constantly checking "Are we connected? Nope. Are we connected? Nope." Ad freaking infinitum! :angry-new:
Then there's the fact that there's so much additional and yet irremovable bandwidth sucking, privacy invading Processes, Services and Apps and CPU cycle wasters like Touchscreen compatibility which I have no intention of ever using on my desk top computer.
From the screenshots I've seen of Win 10 it has kept the much hated and stinking App screen on boot up. :D I'm not going to get into the logistics of the number of days spent downloading this potential bandwidth hog.
Now about that Free Upgrade*. >:((
Investigating I had to dig quite deeply through all the self-celebratory banners and fireworks announcing how wonderful and generous Win-Corp is being for delivering this spamtastic and vastly improved OS to find that it's only "Free for the first year". They completely omitted any mention of the how much (cost wise) the slam will be that hits your credit every year to keep your device from becoming anything more than an expensive doorstop.
This is comparable to my happily owning a fully paid for, capable and well maintained car that while even though it's a few years old has potentially another few hundred thousand miles left in it and the auto manufacturer comes along and offers a years free lease of a larger more powerful vehicle that they have developed but it has the unfortunate downside of perpetually reeking of pig crap.
Maybe I would get used to the ongoing presence of that sustained stench but why should I force myself to do so?
It sucks that Windows has decided to copy the Apple products and business model when it was my preference for Windows that caused me to select them over Apple in the first place.
Before I allow Win 10 on my computer I will download Ubuntu set up a dual boot and block off all future Windows updates. At least that's a lot smaller learning curve without putting up with all the pig crap. \:/
Windows 10? They can osculate my hirsute bifurcated posterior. >:(
Now that's a rant :-D :-X
I too don't want anything to do with Resource Hog 10 and I'll be holding on to my 7 for as long as I possibly can.
The question is begged: How come the sequence went from 8 straight to 10? Was there a 9, and was it such a bitch of a thing that they gave up on it - or, is it still a bitch of a thing but since they decided it was time for a new Windows they stuck some more bells and whistles (read Useless Crap) on what they had and pushed it outside as the Next Big Thing?
I'm still pissed at Microsoft for making me sort through the stacked copies of my Poser directories in Virtual Store every time I create something of my own in Poser and then have to waste what little time I have left to me copying it all back over to the C: Poser directories it rightly belongs in. I'd like to meet the genius behind Virtual Store, tear him a shiny new red one and then store his old one where he can't find it :angry-new:
Thanks fragger, here's my take on a couple points you brought up.
#1 Where's win 9?
I guess they used up all the 9's in Windows 95 and 98. The truth is Windows didn't want to use a number lower that Apples OS. ;)
Some sources say there will be no higher versions of Windows forthcoming but you can sure expect lots of smaller and more frequent updates to keep Win 10 limping along. ???
#2 The Cloud?
That simply means pissing away your time and IP bandwidth storing and back loading your vital data on some far flung industrial hard drive so that commercial and governmental interest backed snoops can pick through your data at their leisure for interesting tidbits. 8-X
No, it's not a cloud - at least I don't think it goes to a cloud. And I may have been unfair to Microsoft as it might not be their doing, it may be Poser's, but I was ticked and MS was a handy punching bag >:D Poser uses a series of directories for storing stuff like poses, props, lighting setups and a few other things, and these directories are located in the same master folder that Poser resides in under Program Files (x86). But for some arcane reason, when you save say a pose in a Poser in-program "Pose" library folder, it makes a copy of the folder in your <PCusername> AppData/Local/Virtual Store... and saves it there. It doesn't just store your stuff there but replicates the entire Poser directory structure to that point, which means to get to the pose files in Explorer you have to look through the whole path <PCusername>/AppData/Local/Virtual Store/e frontier/Poser/Runtime/Libraries/Pose/<your folder>/... This can get mighty tedious when you need to refer to something there frequently and are switching back and forth between it and other Poser files in Program Files for comparison purposes, especially when you may have dozens and dozens of folders in there like I do (every new product you buy and install for Poser gets its own set of folders. You can easily end up with hundreds over the span of a few years). I like to have everything together, so once I've made something I have to go through all those folders in Virtual Store and copy the files back over to the Program Files folders, while trying to keep track of what I've copied and what I haven't.
I suppose it does mean having a test environment away from Poser's main files, but it can be a major hassle for me sometimes, especially when something requires a do-over and I have to track down all existing files relating to it and delete them to avoid conflicts.
OK. What you described was not a Win 10 thing. But then again I'm pretty much of the opinion that all the cloud hype sucks too and I was on a roll fully ready to punch at just about anything that popped up. >:D
Off topic but is there any way to create a master folder of shortcuts linking to those frequently used objects on your Desktop so you don't have to dig through the entire clickpath every time you need to retrieve them?
bookmarks.
No Windows 9 because many older programs checked compatibility by looking for the name starting "Windows 9" to match both 95 and 98. It would be more trouble than it's worth, so they skipped it.
Also, Windows 10 will not be subscription based.
QuoteIt seems there's still confusion. It is very clear from this post that for the first year it's available, you can upgrade to Windows 10 for free if you have Windows 7 or 8. You will not pay for it. After that year is up, nothing will happen to your Windows 10 license. If you do not upgrade within that year, however, you will have to pay for an upgrade. The offer expires after a year, not the upgrade.
Source (http://www.pcgamer.com/microsoft-windows-10-will-not-be-sold-as-a-subscription/).
Another source (http://www.winbeta.org/news/stopping-fud-there-no-yearly-subscription-fee-windows-10).
I am going to wait a while to see how optional the 'Metro' UI is though. That crud has no place on a desktop PC.
I have Windows 10 on my laptop, but there is an issue which annoys me: WHERE IS MY SOUND??? :angry-new: >:(( :D
EDIT: I don't get any sound from my laptop after I updated to Windows 10 :'(
what? say again? :-()
thanks for the info, wobatt :) Hehe, the first time I saw w8 I thought I had a game of effin Tetris going. I don't want an OS that looks like a huge smart phone, I want a PC OS that looks like one, too. Not interested in w10.. They can shove those apps up their perforated rear ends.
Here's another possible strike against Win 10 specifically if you want to upgrade your hardware within the next year.
The following is a chat conversation with the Windows Answer Tech office and a concerned Win 10 user.
http://imgur.com/gallery/8OJ4t (http://imgur.com/gallery/8OJ4t)
????
Some of the comments by the Imgur members below the posted conversation may add clarification beyond what I was able to discern from the general tone of the Answer techie.
TL;DR (too long: didn't read) Windows Tech solidly asserts that adding RAM memory or changing graphics cards are considered hardware will void your Win 10 registration forcing you to repurchase Win 10.
According to the PCMR reddit thread, this is misleading. The comments claims that only the motherboard counts as the PC itself ;) I highly doubt a GPU/CPU/RAM upgrade will void the license, but a motherboard switch will cause issues. It is also stated in the Windows EULA (since XP) that the keys are tied to the motherboard.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3fnz13/windows_10_needs_to_be_repurchased_for_hardware/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3fnz13/windows_10_needs_to_be_repurchased_for_hardware/)
I agree that does make the most sense but that Windows' Tech was pretty adamant on the matter. That is "adamant" as in unwavering and refusing to be swayed from his answer -not- the X-Men character Wolverine's claws and skeletal system. ;)
But then I'm not fully so trusting in Windows that I would fool myself into thinking they are incapable of pulling something shady like that.
If I hit the point I need a new mother board it would mean a complete rebuild at the shop is needed anyway. That process usually comes with whatever the most recent Win OS is installed by the builder. As I mentioned earlier I would most likely have the shop download and set up a dual boot with Ubuntu or whatever the Unix-noob friendliest Linux flavor is at that time as the Primary boot and never start windows again. *shrugs*
There's so much speculation and misinformation about now that I'm not entirely sure what to believe. I'm going to wait 6 months for the dust to settle then decide if I want the free upgrade.
That's probably a wise course of action wobatt, if you're thinking of taking on W10 :)
Booting up today, I noticed a big exclamation mark over the HP Support Assistant icon in my Systray (yes, it's a store-bought HP box, but I've been quite happy with it the last four years or so and it's done everything I've wanted). Hovering the pointer over the icon made a pop-up appear which informed me that there was a message about my PC which was of such great import that I had better jolly well look at it immediately, or words to that effect.
Clicking on the icon brought up the HP Support Assistant window (which I never use) and there was another exclamation mark under HP Messages with an "Important Message about your PC!" tag. Thinking that perhaps there was some urgent action that needed addressing or that something had gone seriously kablooie, I went in to reveal the message that was of such significant gravity that it warranted interrupting my morning routine:
"Get Ready for Windows 10!!!"
Gee, really? There's a Windows 10 coming out? And here I was thinking that the little Windows logo that's been sitting in my Systray all these weeks was just a nice little adornment to my desktop that MS had awarded me, like an achievement, and I was too dim to realize it was actually an icon which would inform me about the imminent arrival of the new OS if I'd had more IQ points than a barnacle and clicked on it.
Ay-yi-yi... :D
Ain't no such thing as a free lunch, especially when it comes to Microsoft and Apple. The only "free" things I've seen so far are those that cost you in the end.
Of course, I am a pessimistic sort, but at the end of the day, I believe MS will try to stick it in our rear ends. 8-X
??? :-()
The following link reveals several unsettling security issues as well as temporary fixes. As noted in the link every time one of the "Smaller but more frequent updates" occur it will resets all of your personal security settings to Default value.
Some fixes for these conditions are listed and source references are listed at the end of bottom of the original poster's submission.
That phrase "Smaller but more frequent updates" is a direct quote from MS' own words in their reserve your copy of Win 10 task bar sucker wart (when you follow out the link) that requires an MIT bachelor's degree in computer sciences to remove from your system.
http://imgur.com/gallery/I8u2G (http://imgur.com/gallery/I8u2G)
In my limited understanding this is what I am getting from this link:
I'm going to call the Introduction panel "Panel Zero."
The first panel speaks of once a Update has posted to your computer you receive an additional packet of other peoples individualized internet address numbers (sorry I don't know the short word for that) and for a period of time (depending on the size of that list of addresses) after the download your system becomes a zombie bot that inserts itself into other strange computers streaming (torrenting?) the distribution of the mandatory updates to other Win 10 users so that Windows saves on their bandwidth by dumping it on yours. There is no opting out of updates other than failing to pay your internet bill. ::)
Second panel is pretty self explanatory as well as intimidating. :o
Third panel says what we already know only at a factor bumped up to the power of 4 beyond our previous expectations. You got WIFI? Someone walks past and the content of their emails and web searches on their personal device will probably start affecting the ads served to you as discussed in panel 4 and in panel 5
Fourth panel see panel 3
Fifth panel... Just read it for yourself. Too much there for me to get my head completely around though I heavily suspect that in connection to the info provided in panel 3 & 4 as far as privacy goes Win 10 has the potential of reeking like a washtub of fresh baking-in-the-sun hog poop collected after they've had a week long all they could eat binge of spicy oyster kimchi stuffed beef and garbanzo bean burritos.
My take? I'll let that last bit speak for itself.
Bloody hell... I've just been reading here (http://www.howtogeek.com/218856/how-do-you-disable-the-get-windows-10-icon-shown-in-the-notification-tray/) and here (http://www.groovypost.com/howto/remove-annoying-windows-10-upgrade-notification/) about what I need to do to get rid of that damned W10 upgrade icon from my SysTray.
MS' helpful advice is to simply hide it. Which is fine for your current session. But next time you start Windows it'll be back like an annoying blowfly.
Basically it was installed with an update back in April and if you want it gone you need to find that update in your Windows Update list and terminate it with extreme prejudice. Which won't actually delete it entirely from your system, and will only really w@&k as long as you have automatic updating disabled, because if you don't, the blowfly will come buzzing back with some future update. So you have to take further action to really deal with it (covered in the above links) but it seems that even then, like The Blob you can't kill this insidious creature entirely - you can only freeze it to prevent it from oozing its way back into your SysTray.
Of course MS will make future attempts to re-invade your SysTray by sending more Blobs at you.
If all that fails, there's a registry hack you can employ to stop it showing its mug, but it's still like dropping the persistent damned thing into Antarctica instead of eliminating it completely.
What a flipping hassle! Sorry MS, but if you want to win my heart you ain't gonna do it by hijacking my SysTray and sticking a slimy little booger in it that I'm going to have to try to scour out with the software equivalent of a roto-rooter, if I'm so inclined.
Since I'm not so inclined, I've decided to just leave it there as a kind of reality check to the arrogant intrusiveness of this company. It may only be a little icon but it's what it represents that irks me. There are myriad ways that MS can take to advertise their new OS without invading my personal computer space and pasting a notice there with Super Glue. If I want their damned !@#$% OS I'll get it - I don't appreciate this insolent thrusting down of my throat.
That alone is enough to turn me off :angry-new:
maybe they're just testing out how to add ads to our task bar. Next we'll see porn sites advertising there, too. :-D
I formerly used Windows Journal for note taking, but MS has made it virtually useless due to "security" updates. The only way I could make Journal w@&k without it crashing was to uninstall now two different security updates. Talk about a passive/aggressive way to get people to stop using something.
mandru, if you right click the task bar in w8.1 and choose "Properties", you can go to the Navigation tab and select "When I sign in or close apps then go directly to the desktop instead of Start". This will at least take you directly to the Windows desktop rather than the ridiculous start screen.
Thanks for the heads up on that PZ. I'd love for that to be the case but I think my Vaio Tap20 all-in-one tablet may be Win 8.0 but I'll check it out. +1 :) :-X
Thanks, mandru - best of luck. The menu choice might also be something like "Go to desktop instead of Start when I sign in" or words to that effect. Anything in the Navigation tab that looks like that should be good to go. Reboot and you should go directly to the desktop (keep fingers crossed)
Reading this topic makes me think Microsoft is killing the desktop PC slowly. Torturing it through the back troyan horse style. When I need a new OS (currently using Vista) I'm seriously concidering switching to another operating system. Maybe Ubuntu, or a Steam Machine. I'm tired of tyles and taskbars of said company :angry-new:
I've setup an old PC (too old to run Windows) with Ubuntu as a music server for my local network and it works great. Boots up really fast, and has never let me down, plus, the OS is free.
problem is games for PC are basically always windows games. At least at first.
I believe that this steam machine is based on Ubuntu as well, and apparently that works with most of the games, supposedly. I really hope we will get a good alternative for windows, because I'm starting to loose faith. If it wasn't for gaming I would've completely switched to Mac now I guess :angel:
if it hadn't become mandatory for gaming, I'd never even have touched that bleeding windows. I used to be a proper DOS guy who looked at the "windows 3.11" rubbish just the same way as we're now looking at the flipping w10 icon.
Managed to fix the sound issue :-D Had to uncheck "Disable all sound effects" :D :D :D ^-^
:knockout
WTF? "Noise effects" ?
I am a bit puzzled, too. 8)
Oops, it reads "Disable all sound effects" 8-X :D :laugh:
hehe :-D
:-D :-D :-D
So far mine is running smooth and without any glitches
My laptop seems to suffer from a Win 8 driver for the Intel HD graphics iGPU :'( >:(( :angry-new: It makes the PC stutter :angry-new: :angry-new:
oh ssssshhhhiiiiiiit.......... :-D
It doesn't do that every time, but when I tried to play some Far Cry 2 (lowest settings), it stuttered frequently :'(
That's awful - I thought software was supposed to become better with subsequent versions... oh crap... forgot, we're talking about Microsoft.
I guess the Intel HD Graphics driver could be the reason ;) It has the Win 8 version driver and I haven't updated it to the Windows 10 version ::)
Did the upgrade on my wife's Surface Pro 3 the other day. Did the custom setup and deactivated all of the default options because most sent data to Microsoft.
Now you cannot disable updates - they occur automatically whether you want it or not.
I do not see any advantage of W10 yet. Perhaps something will pop up in the future, but for now, I do not see any new "must have" features.
You can disable updates the same way I did with my Win8 driven tablet.
Disconnect it from WiFi and never let it touch the internet again. ;)
:laugh: :-X
:-D
I took me about the time that took to press Windows key + R and typing "gpedit.msc ..." command in.
Only thing to choose from 10 over 8 is the DX12, nothing else.
Subsystem in all three are pretty much the same , maybe some exceptions like NDIS,WDDM, memory management, and fault tolerance.
Though the drawbacks are, that incase of a fuckup, you can't access the lovely bootmenu in win8/10 like you could in win7 and earliers by pressing F8.
Sounds like MS is trying to mimic Apple ::)
ever since they released windows. :-()
:laugh:
Yeah, but they are blatant about it now!
As to potential problems - the audio driver did not w@&k after installing W10, so I had to go into the device manager, delete the audio driver and then scan for hardware changes.
Windows is becoming more like unix based GUI's, like Apple is allready.
Pretty much everyone is copying from KDE,GNOME and unity. Ubuntu/steam OS... Are based on Debian, though someone said its based on Ubuntu.
Ubuntu is my favorite OS as of now - I use it as the OS for a media server, and it is blazingly fast, even on an old PC that can barely run Windows XP
You would be suprised how much faster Kubuntu, native Debian are compared to it. Ubuntu is great for desktop use, and if you have the skills it has all the functionality that other desktops have too, but the unity GUI is the slowest and most demanding(fraction what windows GUI is).
KDE can be run almost anywhere, even on your wrist clock, though you may get some wrist burns on prolonged use. :-D
Though it doesnt matter that much which distro you are using, if you have decent enough computer running it, ARM based devices are a little more picky. And if you are like me, I got a SPARC computer somewhere, which is even worse than the X64/X86 and ARM together.
As of windows 10, Ive also been using the new virtual desktop feature, which allows me to have 3 virtual desktop setups, one for gaming, one for w@&k, and 3rd for casual surfing etc etc. Keeping things separate from each other, and easy to transition from each other.
Interesting - I'll need to check it out :-X
Will any of the Linux flavors fully run the games we're playing and an Nvidia GPU?
No, and yes, depends on the person who we are talking about.
Linux actually has WINE, that is capable of emulating D3D calls and translating them to opengl, and opengl games can run native through it.
Since Steam Os was released, alot of games have been ported to linux side also, so they run natively and with opengl on linux side, but the biggest problem is the drivers, nVidia doesnt really want to develop drivers for the linux side that have really good performance, AMD side things are more greener, but nothing compared to Windows side.
here's a good list of games that can run on steam os, that are ported to linux(can be run on other distro's too, but require that you acquire them through steam >:D),
https://steamdb.info/linux/ (https://steamdb.info/linux/)
Hmm... Not good news. :(
Steam ranks even lower than Windows 10 on my "I'd rather gouge my eyes out with a stick scale".
I read halfway through that (non-alphabetical) list and other than Civilization and the Half Life2 series there was nothing else I even recognized. At this stage in my gaming career I'm pretty much beyond the point of grabbing an unknown game simply because I finished the last one and I'm ready for the next. That type of game consumption has left me with a mountain of games that will never be reloaded. That's not including the considerable stack of games purchased but once I'd read the instructions (or user's guide) lost all interest and never even bothered to load up.
Black & White Deluxe was probably one of the most expensive to fall in that category. ::)
It's too bad one of my old favorites Tone Rebellion had a lot of glitches and refused to run once Windows 98 was phased out.
If all else fails I still have my subscription to RuneScape that's so old I'm still grandfathered in at the $5 instead of the standard $10 (US$) monthly fee but that will really knock me out of the conversational mix at least when it comes to games here at OWG.
I've been having Nvidia driver update problems for sometime now, a few days ago a Win10 GPU driver update notice popped up on the screen, and yet again the update failed to install for no reason at all.
I went into device manager, opened the graphics adaptor, right click the graphics card and clicked on update driver software, the latest Win10 driver installed like a breeze :-D
I had a strange audio problem on a Surface Pro 3 after installing W10. The sound would not w@&k at all even though the hardware was being reported as being present and working properly in the device manager.
A simple delete of the audio driver and a scan for hardware changes was all it took to fix it. Curiously, the same thing happened on a W8.1 Surface yesterday. In that case however, an error was thrown when an application tried using the audio. Same fix though - delete the driver and scan for hardware changes ????
I had to do the same with the integrated soundcard also, expansion one didn't require it though.
After doing my wife's machine last week, I tried to do mine yesterday. Update was screwed up, and none of the repair solutions worked so I did a soft repair of the OS. Then Windows reported 144 updates, which I dutifully did - when completed networking, the docking station, wireless, etc.etc. did not w@&k - checked the device manager and it was full of exclamation marks with no way to fix them.
Finally did a reset to factory - man, I love how perfect Windows is \:/
I. Can't. Resist.
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:-D @ Stiku - I've slapped friends for saying "Well at least it can't get any worse."
I don't fix them, I just drive them. Anything less simple than Plug and Play as far as I'm concerned is still in the Alpha stage of development.
And I never trust a Beta when offered.
That may be an overkill, but I have learned that if it sounds impossible, Windows will manage the way to screw it up anyways.
I do still remember screwing up a fresh Windows 98 SE installation just by disabling one service from the service manager once.
But anyways, upgrading has always been like playing with fire, chances that something goes wrong is more likely than the sunset every evening, even more dangerous than doing half-a$$ job compiling a linux kernel and not knowing what you are doing( I got experience screwing that too, so many times)
Well, all in all it's a better idea to update to win7 (still got vista) than any other option I could think of. Or accept the transition into a tyle-toucher :-D
lol, Stiku :-()
Quote from: Stiku on August 26, 2015, 01:32:23 PM
... I have learned that if it sounds impossible, Windows will manage the way to screw it up anyways...
A more accurate assessment of Windows I have never read.
On a positive note however, I had purchased Office 2013 through the HUP for $9.95 when I initially purchased the Surface. I could not recall any of the detail, but knew I had to reinstall the product after the OS reset. So, I called MS and one of their technicians sent me a new email with the link to download and install - worked without a hitch
Okay, this is getting really stupid now.
MS released 3 updates : KB3081448, KB3081449, KB3081452
Nothing new, but I had to install one by one, and reboot between. How stupid is this. :D
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Sounds like standard MS SOP to me :angel:
As of now, I've two out of three computers on which the W10 app did not appear.
If I turn off and restart my comp I get the Win10 nag. If I sleep and re-awaken my comp I get the nag. >:((
It's been a month already give me a freaking option to select "I don't want Win10 so piss off, get the nag off my computer, and never ask me again!" :D
right-click into the area where those icons are, select "customise icons and notifications" and disable that win10 icon (hide icon and notifications) -- have you tried that? :)
I've now installed W10 on both Surface machines and like it. However, during install, I disabled almost all of the "options" that end up sending MS info.
It appears to be much more stable than 8.1, doesn't cause the fan to come on as much, and performance is improved. MS really did take the bad things out of 8.1
Next, I plan to get on my new gaming rig.
My concern is that hiding it doesn't eliminate it. I'd prefer to know the nag is gone for good.
PZ I've heard that every time there's an those disabled "options" reassert themselves so you may want to check on them from time to time.
Yes, I have already experienced a bit of it, mandru - every once in a while I'll receive a prompt offering me the best thing that has ever come to computing, and when you read the fine print it reads (your information will be sent to Microsoft). Also, I have not found any way to disable automatic updates.
None the less, the basic OS is really good (so far). I'm most concerned about performance (speed) and the ability to run my applications without failure.
@Mandru
http://puppylinux.org (http://puppylinux.org)
Should get rid of everything.
To PZ, there isnt a way to disable them, atleast for now.
Thanks Stiku. :) :-X +1
I gave the link a quick glance and it looks good. I will need to look deeper.
Whether I can use it or not will depend on if it will cooperate with my Nvidia 680 and the games I want to play. :-\\
Thanks Stiku - likely someone will come up with a modification that will allow users the choice.
Just finished upgrading to W10 on the gaming rig, and fired up old FC2 - still works like a charm :-X
Interestingly, nVidia GeForce recognizes the Acer XB270HU and all of it's performance capabilities (as did FC2 display settings), but W10 labels it a generic PnP monitor in the device manager. - guess Acer has not developed a driver for W10 yet
Quote from: mandru on August 29, 2015, 10:28:49 AM
My concern is that hiding it doesn't eliminate it. I'd prefer to know the nag is gone for good.
mandru, I posted about this a while back, dunno if it will help. There's a couple of hyperlinks in this post (http://www.openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?topic=3749.msg76766#msg76766) which offer a few options for getting rid of that stupid thing. The second of those two links is probably the most helpful.
http://www.openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?topic=3749.msg76766#msg76766 (http://www.openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?topic=3749.msg76766#msg76766)
Oddly enough, I couldn't get rid of that for a while, then one day I gave "customize icons and notifications" option yet
another try and this time it appears to have worked permanently - I haven't seen the icon since. Maybe a recent update made the "customize..." option fully operable or something. Give it another go if you haven't already - although it sounds like you've given it plenty already :-\\
I think mandru meant that he would have been able to hide it but instead he wanted to rip out the evil by the roots so that hiding wouldn't be necessary any more.
@PZ
Theres no difference between monitor drivers, they all use the same resources, may also have their own color profiles. Monitor drivers only useful job is to provide resolution-refresh rate combinations that aren't burned into EDID
btw, drivers for that mon -> Acer multiplatform monitor drivers (http://global-download.acer.com/GDFiles/Driver/Monitor/Monitor_Acer_1.0_W7x86W7x64W8x86W8x64_A.zip?acerid=635609624650250719&Step1=MONITOR&Step2=X%20SERIES&Step3=XB270HU&OS=8P1&LC=en&BC=ACER&SC=PA_6)
Thanks, Stiku :-X
Just gonna put this here, because its DX12 related and all that.
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-wanted-oxide-dev-dx12-benchmark-to-disable-certain-settings.html (http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-wanted-oxide-dev-dx12-benchmark-to-disable-certain-settings.html)
For those who dont want to read, async shaders is a newer way to handle tasks, and its one of the biggest improvement on DX12, what nVidia told would be supported by their current card lineup. Now it seems that their cards cant handle that at a good pace. Biggest s#!t being nVidia gloated several times that AMD doesn't support couple of the really newer DX12 features and blah blah blah.
All in all, nVidia users are being lied to constantly by nVidia, which isn't good for anyone. I hope this doesn't jump over to AMD's side. Otherwise I would need to take out my old toys and go back to the sandbox.
Dang nVivia liars \:/ :D
Win7/8 users beware.
http://www.ghacks.net/2015/08/28/microsoft-intensifies-data-collection-on-windows-7-and-8-systems/ (http://www.ghacks.net/2015/08/28/microsoft-intensifies-data-collection-on-windows-7-and-8-systems/)
Stiku, I had become aware of this situation but was unsure of how to proceed in blocking it. :-\\ +1
The link gives gives enough guidance that I'll have to try slogging through. I hate dinking around with unfamiliar territory on my comp. :(
Just have a backup in hand if something goes wrong. And learn/print and create restoration(read: Windows 7/8 USB installation disc is a good start) medias before starting to do anything and you'll be fine.
There is always a risk when removing those windows updates that they aren't cleanly removed, or they leave stuff behind that can affect the startup process(Hence the backup)
Quote from: Stiku on September 02, 2015, 07:51:56 AM
Just have a backup in hand if something goes wrong. And learn/print and create restoration(read: Windows 7/8 USB installation disc is a good start) medias before starting to do anything and you'll be fine.
The only thing I know about "back up" is that it's the "R" on the shift stick on Mrs. mandru's Hyundai.
As far as "... learn/print and create restoration(read: Windows 7/8 USB installation disc is a good start) medias before starting to do anything...". That went so far over my head it was leaving contrails. ???
I keep telling you guys I don't fix them I just drive 'em. :'(
There's always something that MS is mucking up to make our lives difficult. The company is something like a child molester - offering you candy and then end up molesting you.
@Mandru
Just create a restoration point before messing with the windows updates, can be done from the control panel, then go to your wife's car, remove the the shift linkage, then remove the torque converter and tell her that she now has 6 neutrals and a park.
@PZ
Well that escalated too quickly, but you are closer to MS HQ, maybe you should call the cops then :angel:
:laugh:
:-D
Here's something I've found out.
Microsoft upon learning that people are refusing to upgrade to Win10 (among other things) but largely because of it's privacy violations
updates have been inserted into our systems giving Win7 and Win8 the same intrusive capabilities as Win10. The updates are already loaded into Win7 and Win8 reporting back to Microsoft on every keystroke we make.
Microsoft's plan to scour our systems for information under the guise of being able to profit by selling our data to marketers who want to target to us more precisely has the larger ramifications of their taking every word typed (even in the private section of a public forum) against a political faction that Microsoft favors and turning it over to the politicians they want to bolster. That way the enforcement against politically in-correct hate speech can be rained down on anyone labeled as a dissident or potential trouble maker.
Spoiler
I'll hold the politically disgraced and much maligned ex-CEO of Yahoo Scott Thompson up as an example. He was someone who years ago gave a donation to an activist group who's stated purpose was to protect the laws surrounding marriage to be "between a man and a woman" (which was the exact same voiced position held by every PC mongering Democrat politician running for office on and prior to 2008 (including caught on video Obama) because they lied knowing the truth of their ultimate agenda would cause them to lose any chance of being elected) and years later when Scott Thompson's donation came to light the PC crowd headhunters marked him for destruction.
Here's one such politically charged bit of butchery of Scott Thompson that because of the prestige of the magazine helped tear the man down:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/deborahljacobs/2012/05/14/the-high-price-of-career-lies-2/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/deborahljacobs/2012/05/14/the-high-price-of-career-lies-2/)
Just one shark in the overall feeding frenzy bent on ruining his life and notice they completely omitted the detail of the long ago donation. At the end of the article the author admits that this man was more than qualified but because of some small discretion absolutely had to go. An yet we are expected to overlook the lies and indiscretions of our current president, the department of in-justice (fanning the flames of anti-cop and white hatred among the Blacks Lies Matter mobs), and good old "What difference does it make now" Shrillery Clinton. :D
If you get caught in the cross-hairs of this slimy mechanism the power players won't come at you directly for speaking out against them as the Forbes article demonstrates. You will find yourself entangled in a barrage of seemingly unrelated run-ins with civil laws, rules and regulations, the denial of licenses and permits, or simply the ability to conduct the daily necessities of keeping a job, earning a living, or keeping a roof over your head. Look at the recent history of highly positioned people in business, the entertainment industry or public life that have been put out of their jobs for being on the wrong side of the politically correct assassins.
And in the long run gay marriage will buy votes for the liberals and carry the side benefit of creating a whole new resource for filling the pockets of divorce lawyers.
But back to my thought on a way to foil the increasingly invasive nature of the Windows monopoly.
I think cutting the cord with Windows by going to a pure Linux driven rig and taking the hit of losing pretty much all options on the games I can buy off the shelf and play
is a bit too drastic.I know that it is possible to to set up a Win7/Ubuntu or other Linux OS Dual-Boot so that when I power up my comp It first asks which OS I want to load in.
I could shut off all Win7 updates so that I take no additional speed loss to the continual creeping functionality and the only time Windows would touch the internet is when I'm loading and playing one of the games that requires an online registration or connection for play. For all internet browsing I would be able to download Firefox into Ubuntu or Puppy Linux as has been suggested but I still need to research and gather more information on Puppy before taking that plunge.
I know part of setting up a dual-boot system is that you have to "shrink Windows" which currently claims to own all of my C: drive by re-partitioning. This may or may not require a clean reinstall of Win7. If I decide to go this route I have a local shop that should be able to save and restore my data, reinstall Win7, and set the partition sizes (or possibly add a 2nd hard drive as non-SSD's are cheap these days) to install the Linux flavor for my internet activity.
This is all coming right at a time where I'm looking at increasing my system's DDR3 capacity to something less shallow than the 4gb total I'm currently running and I have a local tech shop that I'm sure could set up both the clean reinstall of Win7, dual-boot me up and would be more than happy to sell me Ram sticks while I've got my rig in the shop. I'll bet they'd even park a fresh copy of Firefox on the Linux side of the partition for me so it would be a simple plug and play situation once I've hooked it all up when I get it home. :)
That's lots of technical talk coming from someone that claims:
Quote from: mandruThe only thing I know about "back up" is that it's the "R" on the shift stick on Mrs. mandru's Hyundai
8-X :-()
LOL, your plan goes out the windows instantly when you install firefox, it sends more personal information to devs that your wife knows about you.
PZ I can grasp concepts, plan courses of action, and research what needs to be done. But taking it into my own hands has often proven to be disastrous.
I've learned not to argue with this guy:
Spoiler
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VrFV5r8cs0
If you have a better suggestion Stiku, one that I'm able to manage I'm always willing to weigh and evaluate advise. ^-^
Besides I kinda like the idea of sticking my thumb (and teaching others to do the same) in Microsoft's eye. >:D
Every browser has its drawbacks, Chrome has google spying you, Firefox has opensource devs, nobody to be accounted for.
Opera, norwegian guys giving a free "browser" for anyone, etc etc etc. MS IE/EDG, obviously MS spying on you.
There are also many chromium based browsers for linux that are made by 3rd party also.
If enough people adopted something like what I've proposed it would at least be slashing the tendons of the monopoly giant Microsoft cutting their feet out from under them them and down to size saying "NO" in a way that hurts them in the pocketbook.
"Serve up crap get slapped back" is a longstanding consumer rights principle that we consumers really need to unite around.
*Edited typos
Can't argue with that.
Just gonna leave this here: Every 30 minutes Windows 10 sends all typed text to Microsoft (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10053420)
Everyone can make their own judgements over this, not going to say anything.
Will also leave this too Anti-Beacon for Windows 10 (http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/anti-beacon-for-windows-10-download.html)
and this : Destroy windows spying (http://dws.wzor.net/)
And the leaked notes of the newer 10540 build : Release notes for Windows 10 build 10540 leaked (http://www.neowin.net/news/release-notes-for-windows-10-build-10540-leaked)
:-X
The data world gets worse seemingly on a daily basis
So much for Windows 10!!!! >:(( >:(( >:(( >:((
At the time I downloaded/installed Win 10 on a seperate hdd than my Windows 7 to see what will happen with this "free" Win 10 after a year. I use Win 7 all the time and only periodicaly start up Win 10 to check for updates and such, last night I wanted to check for updates and to my surprise I get an error message, Windows 10 will not boot up. I tried everything, even the built in automatic repair, all it did was wipe the harddrive clean, and I mean "CLEAN" >:(( :D >:(( :D