starting this thread so we can debate all things Musical, good and the Bad bands, albums, songs. Personally i love music in many many different styles and genres
Anything from the Jazz greats to odd, quirky and dark electronica, from Classical piano pieces to the Heavyest, fastest and most brutal Thrash metal. along with splashes from the likes of Bob Dylan, Pink Floyd, Classic Motown, Blues Legends, Rap stars like BDP etc etc etc..... you get the point.
So share with us what musics pull at your soul and make you tingle but also whats your idea of ear-pollution? what music would you abolish for the good of us all :-X
How about Dan Hicks and his Hot Licks? This group is definitely one to play to the family during road outings if you hate your kids ;D
LOL :-X
Good music? FUNK! from the early 70s that is ;D All Rhythm, brass, percussion and a nasty bass :)
Else: Deep House, Minimal, Electronica, Acid Jazz. Chill out lounge music, space techno, Club music.
Sometimes: Opera (live) (hehe)
Turn-off: Heavy Metal, Rock, Country.
Although I have a wide taste in music, I tend to lean towards the "heavier" end of the spectrum.
My current favourite band is The Supersuckers, sort of punk country and western band, yup is does w@&k .
I do tend to plunder my old record collection from time to time, to savour some of my past delights, in no particular order :
Blue Oyster Cult, Wishbone Ash, Emmerson Lake and Palmer, Yes, Thin Lizzy, Rory Gallagher, Lynyrd Skynyrd etc.
I was particularly fond on the "grunge" scene, I loved Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Nirvana.
I'm fond of some C/W artists, Johnny Cash (probably the person I would have loved to meet most irl, if I got the chance), Kris Kristofferson, Don Williams, Jim Reeves, Marty Robbins to name a few.
To my mind, there are only two kinds of music, Good and Bad
I'm incredibly lucky, my kids love Supersuckers and Blue Oyster Cult, so road trips are not really a hardship for me ...... not so for Mrs Fiach though :-[ 8)
hehe, I like these "Spaceboy and Spacekid" or "Fiach and Mrs Fiach" lol :-X
I just saw an advertisement for a new movie called "astrokid" - a new animation that looked like a superman spin-off - I wonder if spaceboy might want to change his name ;D
funny, one anagram of astrokid is "dart is ok" LOL
hahahahahaaaaa..... :-X :-X :-X
ah, no name change I guess. It's been too long. My boy has seen you guys call him spacekid and he wants to use it for his online eventually...I'm sure by then he'll want to be deathmonkey or something like that
Regarding music: I like the props for Johnny Cash from Fiach above lol
Anyways, my taste in music varies widely except for any real rap/hip-hop, dance, or too heavy of "metal".
Favorites include:
Van Morrison
John Hiatt
The Black Crowes
Jack Johnson
Matthew Sweet
Lenny Kravitz
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Smashing Pumpkins (obviously)
Hank Williams Jr.
Rush
All classic rock like Led Zeppelin, the Stones, Pink Floyd etc. etc. etc.
Guilty Pleasure: The Cure
Somewhat obscure likes: The Subdudes (first 3 albums only), Indigenous
Also I like good soundtracks like the Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Star Wars, and inFAMOUS! Amon Tobin made an excellent soundtrack for inFAMOUS. Still listen to it at least 3 times per week - gotta love those crazy Brazilians ;)
Cheers buds!
A few favorites:
- Live
- Nickelback
- Creed
- Matchbox 20
- Oasis
- Linkin Park
- Garth Brooks
- 2Pac
Oh man, where do I begin?!?!?!
Great seeing names like Rory Gallagher, Lynyrd Skynyrd and Blue Oyster Cult... on my list too
All great R`n`R classics are always with me... Stones, Hendrix, Santana, Led Zeppelin, Van Halen, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Grand Funk Railroad, Allman Bros, David Bowie............ more recently Govt Mule... they sound oldies but are here now!
New stuff like Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Jane`s Addiction, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Audioslave and the former Rage Against the Machine, Temple of the Dog......
80`s stuff like The Cure, Jesus and Mary Chain, Echo and the Bunnymen, Siouxie and the Banshees, Bauhaus, Joy Division, Sisters of Mercy, The Cult...
Noisy stuff like Dead Kennedys, Ramones, Iggy Pop, Stoogies, The Clash, Mudhoney, MC5... discovered one band recently - Gogol Bordello... wow... they are noisy ;D
All the blues you can come up with from Robert Johnson to Stevie Ray Vaughan, from Muddy Waters to Robert Cray... Buddy Guy, B.B. King... stir it all, add a taste of Eric Clapton... serve hot, please!
Jazz too is on my list, starting with the great Miles Davis, but also John Coltrane, Oscar Peterson, Thelonious Monk,
Not to forget those beautyful ladies like Billie Hollyday, Etta James, Sarah Vaughan, Ella Fitzgerald and those bland girls trying to follow their steps like Amy Winehouse, Joss Stone...
Can`t forget where I`m from... Brazil is one rich country for music, my OWG friends... to name a few
Samba (the good old stuff, not the crappy samba they do nowadays): Cartola, Demonios da Garoa...
MPB (Musica Popular Brasileira): Tom Jobin, Gilberto Gil (our minister for the culture!!!), Novos Baianos, Tim Maia, Caetano Veloso, Marisa Monte, Elza Soares, Ceu...
Baden Powell, an outsanding guitar player (believe me, he`s Brazilian)
Crappy stuf I`d ban from the world...
I`d dig a deep, real deep cove and place Britney Spears and all boy bands down there. Fill it with whatever plays on MTV more than once a day and pick a few names in Brazil I better not even mention so I don`t have to wash my mouth...
That`s all I can think for now... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
@RedRaven
Quote from: RedRaven on September 30, 2009, 09:29:23 AM
latest Metallica album (Death Magnetic) is in my opinion a brilliant collection of songs, with All Nightmare Long and Unforgiven III being my favourite 2.
JRD - you say they have sold out, how/why do you think this ? (not trying to provoke an argument in any way but would like to hear your reasons, had a couple of discussions with friends who thought St Anger was terrible, where as i find it an interesting step for them musically, (would not have Death Magnetic without St Anger). And after all they have been putting songs together since '81 and they cant keep doing Master of Puppets/Ride the Lightning over and over again, 28 years is along time in anyones book.
Look forward to hearing your view :-X
Just saw your post there, will reply here...
After the Black Album (which I dislike, btw) Metallica was doing music to play in radios and MTV, they were still heavy, but yet soft, if you know what I mean.
Load and Reload are just OK imo, there are some good songs here and there, but as a whole, it`s too weak... not Metallica after this period, but a different band with the same name.
I know they can`t do Kill`em All and Ride the Lightning all the time, but hey... THAT`s METALLICA MATE, that`s what I`m looking for when I buy their records, the band that made Fade to Black... I want to see Lars punching the Drums, Kirk smashing the strings... That`s ok to try new stuff.. but keep to your roots... the Garage Days........
St Anger is a come back for sure and very welcome... The new one I don`t know quite well yet, but I know it`s great Metallica stuff... THEY`RE BACK MATE, THEY`RE BACK woooooohooooooooo
Geez, doesn't anyone go for Abba and the Bay City Rollers? (sticks own finger down throat)
I love anything if its melodic. I just rediscovered Rick Wakeman, found a DVD of one of his Journey to the Centre of the Earth tour stops which was filmed in Melbourne in 1975, it's terrific.
Other 70's era prog-rock type stuff that I like are Emerson Lake and Palmer, some of Yes, some of Hawkwind.
There are some cool Aussie bands I like such as Cold Chisel, Rose Tattoo and the Black Sorrows, these are probably unknown outside Oz though. Pity.
Apart from them, I like (in no particular order):
Robben Ford (this guy teaches blues guitarists how to play, he wrote the book)
Santana (seen him 7 times in concert now)
Tommy Emmanuel (another Oz guy, superb guitarist)
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Blue Oyster Cult
Led Zeppelin (though not all of their stuff)
Deep Purple (ditto)
Doobie Brothers (only their older stuff, before they went all up-market)
Allman Bros.
The Band
B.B. King
Actually, too many to go into here. I like older, guitar-oriented stuff, as you've probably gathered. But I also like some older jazz and swing stuff - Glenn Miller, Tommy Dorsey, Duke Ellington, Count Basie, and I reckon Ella Fitzgerald had the best female singing voice ever.
Major dislikes:
Rap, Rap, Rap. We all know what that rhymes with...
The absolute plethora of Britney-like girl singers who are all so depressingly alike in their pitiful attempts to be "sexy" and who come out of the wookwork like termites with timber allergies
Any band with "boys" in their title
Poofy 80's bands ala "Aha"
This is going to be a great reference thread for me to check out some of your guys recommendations, great idea to start this one. :-X This is especially true for the more local or obscure bands you guys list. Keep it up if you think of any others. It seems most of our mainstream tastes are quite aligned - go figure - you guys seem like allright chaps ;)
For me what happens is once I get "into" an artist or band I wind up having to get all of their back catalog (if I'm continuing to enjoy what I hear)- can get expensive but used CDs are a help sometimes. I hate paying nearly as much for a digital download if for a couple bucks more I can have the actual CD, rip it myself and always have the ability to re-rip it if needed.
Oh, and I forgot to add to my list;
Mark Knopfler/Dire Straits
His last few solo albums have been magnificent and no you won't be getting radio heavy Dire Straits sounds from him now. This stuff is like "Portobello Belle" rather than "I want my MTV" which I skip over when listening to the DS greatest hits album.
I like that Jazz stuff too, as the singers/bands mentioned by fragger. Not so much into free Jazz (seen JRD mention John Coltrane, I got this album "live at Newport") but more into swing. Other names I got music from on LP (yeah, vinyl): Thelonius Monk, Fats Domino (he had a sign on his piano reading "don't feed fats" hehe), Luis Armstrong, Miles Davis, Gerry Mulligan (best white black Saxophonist I believe) and many more.
its great to see such diversity and yet similarities coming up. Dug out some of my CD's other day and top of the pile was NEUROSIS, (from west coast USA) and as soon as first track started i was lost till the album ended, very very heavy yet not like regular Thrash/Heavy metal. The album is Times Of Grace, and its so well putt together and performed, very dramatic sculpted sounds from sweet piano to crushing riffs. They really put knew life into a usually static genre - probably not most peoples cup of tea but really worth a look. Check the two links below for 2 great examples.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puG607ho7TY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puG607ho7TY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaxNnoKrK9o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaxNnoKrK9o)
Saw Neurosis on their Silver in Blood tour, bought the Album and CD at the gig, the artwork was awesome, I have couple of other CD's too of them, Enemy of the sun and Souls at Zero, an awesome band, man that was what? in the 80's? Are they still around?
Temple of the Dog, They were great, Eddie Veddar and Chris Cornell on vocals, what a line up, that album was a tribute to the lead singer in Motherlovebone, he died of a heroin overdose, Lift the crowd up and some other song was about him iirc.
Nice to see the goths getting some mentions, I love SoM, Cult and Bauhaus.
What an eclectic bunch of old farts we are :)
Neurosis are still going, along with side project Tribes of Neurot & a few others. The artwork/visual presentation is top-notch. Times of Grace was first thing ever heard of them (released 1999) and it still blows me away. 2002 they released "A Sun that Never Sets", can also be got as a DVD with a video for each song from the album - Stones from the Sky is Epic (bottom link from previous post). Never been able to see them live as they hardly ever visit UK.
Chris Cornel is a very under-rated singer/musician. really like some of Soundgardens stuff.
But as for 'Goth', was getting into it until i heard a few Ministry tracks in a night club.
Thieves (mind is a terrible thing to taste) and Stigmata (land of rape and honey) totally re-directed my attention. Then came N.W.O. and that sealed the deal for me.
Oddly enough though possibly my favourite track by them is a cover of Lay Lady Lay (Bob Dylan) from Filth Pig. Excellent piano start and the whole track is done with feeling. Strongly recommend it. (even to those who dislike metal).
Oh..... the other dust covered gem i pulled out from CD pile is Meshuggah - Destroy Erase Improve (1994) realy good heavy thrash from scandanavia. They are almost
like a Thrash-metal/Jazz crossover in the way the use odd time signitures and syncopation. And live they can hold it all together too so its actual talent not just digital editing.
... speaking of which, a few other names crossed my mind:
- Suicidal tendencies
- Infectious grooves
- Living Color
- Alice in Chains (how could I forget those guys??)
- Motorhead... HELL YEAH... Dirty M.F.... the Ace of Spades !!!!
These days I really spend a lot more time Playing music than playing music.
Crap! That even confused me. :P
I've played electric bass for the last 20+ years involved in a small music ministry that has over time called a few different christian fellowships home and at times we've had as many as ten band members but then again for a lot of the time as few as two.
I was basically drawn into it as the leader of our band (acoustic guitar and vocals) was my A.A. sponsor first. He was country and I was an aging veteran cosmic rocker and when we quit pushing against each other and started playing together it just clicked.
Now he and I fight about other things. He would like our current group to be a great copy band and will bring in a new song on CD. Where he wants to play it over and over 8 times so we can all hear our parts and how it's "supposed" to be played, around the 3rd play through I'll start complaining that if it's worth learning then we need to take it and make it our own. Pump it up. Improve it. Make it jump!
Sometimes I win that fight and sometimes he bullies his way through but I still drive and push from the back and often drag the other musicians along with me, him included, once he hears his part in what it could become. I've kinda learned to suggest something once and then if I wait long enough he'll think it was his idea, so I end up getting my way.
But I'm sure more than enough on that.
Moody Blues' Days of Future Past was probably my first real encounter with the potential of the synthesizer. Their invention and implementation of the mellotron in that album started for me a long love of music based on the synth and grabbed up anything I could find that brought synths to the foreground.
I spent hundreds of hours with Tangerine Dream's Rubicon remastered onto both sides of an hour long cassette and a player that could autoflip to continuous play and actually got to see them in concert with a choreographed laser light show. As a bonus Triumvirate was their warm up band and they played their (then) recently released Spartacus. To this day it was one of my favorite top 10 live concerts.
In the 80's here in the US things went disco. :D
So my interests drifted over to Europe and Techno which was I guess basically the same thing but at least I didn't have to put up with K.C. and his Play That Funky Music. I guess I just don't have a funky bone to appreciate it.
I've fortunately lived long enough to see technology catch up to me. The cost of the gear that Tangerine Dream and others like Jean Michel Jarre (whose Oxygene IV I will still find myself humming in distracted moments) used to produce their music was easily in the quarter million dollar range and so far beyond my reach that I could as easily hope to jump to the moon.
Within the last 3 years I've come across a couple free use downloads on the internet. One called Audacity used for mixing sound tracks and mastering audio and the other Psycle.
Psycle is step sequencer/controller that comes with a load of prepackaged synths and effects like echos, delays, samplers (if I want the sound of kettle drums as played with a shotgun all I have to do is record a sample and feed it in) reverbs, and such. It also has an open architecture to allow additional VSTi engines to be plugged in to expand its capabilities.
So from my point of view it takes that earlier .25 mill worth of gear that was so far beyond my reach and dropped it free right into my lap for being a good boy! I mean how else can I explain it? *heh heh*
I've been able to take some of that old dream and put together an albums worth of instrumental sound tracking and even apply for and secure the copyright on it and once I can scrape up the $100 and get a non-expiring copy of the KarmaFX VSTi a super useful synth engine I've got another album's worth of material already brewing.
I'll never sell any of it, I'm just not that marketable and I'm doing it pretty much for my own amusement but it's nice to just be able to say now, that I can do it.
I've read your post with great interest, mandru. It is funny how much of what you wrote could have been me writing it :) I fully understand what you meant by "playing music instead of playing music" :) Not wanting to rewrite your post (well, apart from I have a funky bone), I just skip that.
I have thrown away all that expensive stuff such as Cubase and I discovered a free tool for making music called MadTracker. You can feed it sounds you created or ripped off a CD or extracted from any media, or recorded yourself, and make it an instrument. You then can apply various effects to it and edit that sound snippet inside MadTracker, and on top you can add VST plug-ins, too. Like that you can create all styles of music and experiment with it, creating new sounds and compose new songs. Like you, I do it for myself and perhaps some friends who have a couple of my tunes on a couple of CDs :)
Quote from: Art Blade on October 15, 2009, 01:36:09 PM
Not wanting to rewrite your post (well, apart from I have a funky bone)
-And-
I discovered a free tool for making music called MadTracker. You can feed it sounds you created or ripped off a CD or extracted from any media, or recorded yourself, and make it an instrument - and on top you can add VST plug-ins, too.
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Like you, I do it for myself and perhaps some friends who have a couple of my tunes on a couple of CDs :)
Apart from the funky bone you do sound like me ;D
I'll have to look mad tracker up, sounds cool. :-X
Being a musician, it's not always pretty or even really socially acceptable but it would be easier to give up a leg than stop playing.
hehe :) I even had the same "shock" regarding synthesizers, back in like 1972/73 I heard the first electronic music, you know, those analog synths the size of a tank... I was SO impressed I decided to get one some day. Ever since I dreamt of making music without having to play an actual instrument any more, I created music on my C64 (lol) and I had the first Creative Labs SoundBlaster in my early PCs... man, was I happy to be able to create synthesized music with a PC (midi)... I remember my first KORG and YAMAHA... and PropellerHead's "ReBirth" for the PC, wow... :)
Check this link if you want to space out, mandru:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFfSdCizlDY
(Space: Magic Fly - 1977) by the way, I got the original album on vinyl here ;D
Quote from: JRD on October 03, 2009, 09:36:10 PM
... speaking of which, a few other names crossed my mind:
- Suicidal tendencies
- Infectious grooves
- Living Color
- Alice in Chains (how could I forget those guys??)
- Motorhead... HELL YEAH... Dirty M.F.... the Ace of Spades !!!!
Suicidal Tendencies were great, Send me your money and Institutionilized were great tracks! Infectious Grooves were a spin off I think, The did a cover of Immigrant Song (Led Zep) which I liked alot. I rember Sarsippius Ark (sp?), man he was funny!
Living Color I liked their first couple of albums, couldnt get into the red covered one, but Cult of Personality et al were great songs.
AiC released a new album a few weeks ago (Black gives way to Blue), they have a new singer and its pretty good too, if you never heard Layne sing with them, you would rate it very highly.
Motorhead, I remember getting their first album (on the back it said "Play loud or dont bother", they wern't kidding :)
Quote from: Art Blade on October 15, 2009, 04:55:03 PM
I remember my first KORG and YAMAHA... and PropellerHead's "ReBirth" for the PC, wow... :)
My synth was a Moog Micro. It was a single oscillator but evolved enough there was no fiddling around with patch cords. I loved the exercise of mentally visualizing a sound and then with all settings at zero dialing it to where I thought it lived before touching the keyboard to see how close I could get, which actually has served me pretty well now that I'm using the KarmaFX VSTi which is virtually modular and simulates connecting sound modules with patch cords. A giant leap forwards and we land in the past (heh heh).
I've been to a couple Blueman Group concerts in Las Vegas and anyone that pulls the harp out of a grand piano and plays it with a huge mallet gets my admiration. Look up Blueman Teenage Wasteland (try to find a copy not shot with someone's cell phone).
My wife always reserves center front row balcony seats and both times we've been intercepted at the approach to the stairs and ushered to the elevator. Then we've been met at the top by a theater employee to escort us to our seats. It's either that we're being mistaken for celebs and getting the VIP treatment or they are looking at our age and don't want one of us stroking out on the climb up the stairs. :P
Art, I can only respond to your cool link with:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZaLkfvQ714
Oh, and Fiach,
Quote from: Fiach on October 16, 2009, 03:32:43 AM
Motorhead, I remember getting their first album (on the back it said "Play loud or dont bother", they wern't kidding :)
I find that true with most music.
I like it loud enough that if I stand with my muscles loose the bass knocks me around so it looks like I'm dancing! :P
:) haha, good story, mandru :)
Thanks for your cool link, I can only reply with this (and I intent your eyes to pop out of their sockets) ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iIo5Y-oPhk
On a sidenote, regarding those music links... if you would like to keep a vid in high quality, check spearhead_22's post (http://openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?topic=113.msg742#msg742) - that's some essential stuff there ;)
Now THAT"S what I'm talking about! :-X
Thanks and thanks (vidkeep.com) Art.
The previous link you gave me for Space set me off on a 6 hour video binge. Now just the sight of that step sequencer down in the lower left of the frame has got my heart pumping like a trip hammer from adrenalin.
Once I start following this new line of research out I'm going to be MIA for some time. ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D enjoy, brother ;)
by the way, all the tech talk regarding making vids and ripping dvds etc that came up here can be continued there (http://openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?topic=1126.msg16362#msg16362) ;D
Hey peeps :)
To all of you, but especially to mandru (vocoder / chat box): I've been seriously into the groove once I rediscovered an all-time favourite song, downloaded it using KeepVid (http://keepvid.com) to get the high quality version onto my rig, tuned my VLC player (http://www.videolan.org) using the spatial effects and equalizer, and all I can say is
get this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPLM5wEo2H4
and
GET DOWN! ;D ;D ;D
Wooooooo-hoooooooo
:)
The usage of the vocoder was cool enough but I guess I was born with a dysfunctional funky bone or something. Afraid I'm just a rocker with an ear for techno and a few other music styles with esoteric themes.
It's funny, I don't like country but would sit and watch Roy Clark play guitar for hours because of the level of virtuosity he brings to his art.
I guess if a funk artist really was technically on the mark with themes that expanded the boundaries of their genre I'd endure the train wreck to witness the marvel.
Herbie Hancock comes to mind and as much as I despise scratch there was a Hancock number that played on MTV where he actually introduced the concept of scratch to the world. I actually liked the effect before others got a hold of it and wore it out for me.
Still it was an interesting piece Art and the tech info on KeepVid is worth looking into even if just for high quality copies of some of the anime episodes that I like. :P
Quote from: mandru on December 13, 2009, 09:50:08 PM
I guess if a funk artist really was technically on the mark with themes that expanded the boundaries of their genre I'd endure the train wreck to witness the marvel.
OK, just please have a look... Johnny "Guitar" Watson (The only time ever I went to a live concert was to see him.) I had to find something you could actually
watch him...
Skip to 1:45 in the vid to get to his solo. :)
Johnny Guitar Watson - Mister Magic (1977)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCBg0Yp4V6U
Ok, one more quote ;)
Quote from: mandru on December 13, 2009, 09:50:08 PM
Herbie Hancock comes to mind and as much as I despise scratch there was a Hancock number that played on MTV where he actually introduced the concept of scratch to the world. I actually liked the effect before others got a hold of it and wore it out for me.
Funny you should mention it, the tune is called "Rockit" and I got it right then when it was fresh out. I remember that moment because I had it played on speakers (really, the shop played records for you on their
speakers!) and I had a tall black guy next to me, rummaging through his pile of records, when he looked up, turned to me, and said "man, that's something you've got there. Get it. This is going to make history" and I bought the record. What a strange and impressive situation back then in that shop.
I've played it countless times, to people I knew, on parties I was DJ'ing, and for some reasons, it became popular several years after I originally purchased it. Years later. Like it was something new. I couldn't believe it :)
Here's the vid they used to play on MTV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK0Pi4wC8Hk
Edit:
Funny combo, talking of guitars and Herbie Hancock.
Herbie Hancock - Jazz Fusion Cantelope Island
Skip to 5:10 to get the guitar solo :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrgP1u5YWEg
argh, had to re-re-edit above post. :)
Man. Found yet another version of Herbie Hancock's Cantaloop, this time with trumpets and sax, for the Jazz fans out there :)
Live with freddie hubbard, joe henderson, tony williams, ron carter:
blue note - herbie hancock - cantaloop island
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNAjQBOP-lU
Just a sidenote on youtube and music vids:
Since I rediscovered that old tune (more bounce to the ounce by Zapp) I kept listening to it, and I thought how nice it would be to posess the actual album. These days you can forget about vinyl long play record albums if they are older than a couple of years, but on CD they still have a life. So I went to my local dealer and bingo, got three of Zapp's albums. Just ripped them to my rig and now I am proud and happy owner of genuine legally purchased music. I think once the industry understands that people who leech (download without upload) music from the net (mostly not even CD quality) wouldn't be customers in the first place (like, not everybody has the cash to get all the tunes they like) so they actually don't lose customers. But, on the contrary, people who surf the net, browse youtube, might find stuff there that reminds them. Like me. So, actually, free music on the net can actually create a need, make a person a customer. Like me :)
I also bought two more albums, thanks to youtube, by Funkadelic -- more old 70s funk. Thanks to shops like the one I regularly buy my music from, I can still get that stuff.
And now....
I'm getting down! SHAKE IT, BABY!!! ;D
:-X
Very cool finds there Art.
Johnny Guitar Watson is definitely one of the artists that I could sit and watch. It was pretty amusing at the 5:00 minute mark he got tired of bending the D string up on his guitar to hold pitch and perfectly pulled off an on the fly tune up to correct.
And Rockit, what can I say. Man it takes me back.
As for the Jazz Fusion Cantelope Island (Cantaloop island? I see it named both ways), I really like the first version because it shows the skills of the four artists driving it home. Wow what a guitarist and that guitar looks like it has more processing power on it than the first lunar lander could bring to bear.
And the bassist was quite the w@&k horse. Rock solid. I think Hancock at one point during his solo must have improvised an unexpected key change because we see the bass player look over at him, grin and nod as if to say "You think you can run away from me? I'm your shadow, I'll stay under you and still I'll get there before you!"
The drummer was also dead on too.
Thanks for putting those up.
glad you liked it :)
I once read "Cantaloupe" even. No idea what is correct. However, Hancock was so bloody young and already a genius... some people... some people. :)
Come on guys...
guitars?
mandru...
Eric Clapton live, "Cocaine" ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYS732zyYfU
and the original J.J. Cale, Cocaine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSzU4zP74ng
Best guitar player i have ever heard is a guy called Django Reinhardt. Not saying he is the best ever, but he is a contender, really amazing guy.
oh yes! Good hint! There are many different styles, and good players.
Django Reinhardt - J'attendrai Swing 1939
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iJ7bs4mTUY
Django Reinhardt New York City Festival - Dark Eyes (not Django himself, still good. Watch the percussionist :) )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a64uyOUw_A
I also like Paco de Lucía regarding flamenco guitar.
Entre dos aguas (1976) full video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oyhlad64-s
Bah, how come I always need to find some stuff after I posted... had to edit the Django links. :)
:-X
Every time someone posts a good music link I loose an hour or so running down related links!
;D same here -- and, in the aftermath of posting, one more ;)
Lately have been listening to music of a more chilled nature whilst gaming. Mostly a band called Tortoise, and bits of Ry Cooder & Taj Mahal.
Its all good ;D .
Quote from: RedRaven on January 03, 2010, 06:06:41 AM
Ry Cooder
Wow, reminds me... you might want to check out "Ry Cooder & the Buena Vista Social Club" (there is a docu called that) with wonderful music from Cuba's almost forgotten artists... :-X
Cheers Art, will track it down :-X
Thanks for jogging my memory Art, must try and see that again soon.
Speaking of good music check this out, it´s the Rock and roll hall of fame concert at Madison square garden with U2, Bruce Springsteen, Stevie Wonder, Paul Simon, Art Garfunkel, Mick Jagger, Sting, Billy Joel, John Fogerty, Sam Moore, Jeff Beck, Metallica, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Friends and more that aired on swedish tv on dec 30. It´s availible until jan 6 so be quick ;)
http://svtplay.se/v/1830782/rock_and_roll_hall_of_fame_25_ar/rock_and_roll_hall_of_fame_25_ar_-_otextat?cb,a1364145,1,f,-1/pb,a1364142,1,f,-1/pl,v,,1830782/sb,p123777,1,f,-1 (http://svtplay.se/v/1830782/rock_and_roll_hall_of_fame_25_ar/rock_and_roll_hall_of_fame_25_ar_-_otextat?cb,a1364145,1,f,-1/pb,a1364142,1,f,-1/pl,v,,1830782/sb,p123777,1,f,-1)
Edit: Unfortunately after I posted this it turns out that its restricted to swedish viewers only and therefor it wont w@&k for those of you with a non swedish IP adress.
Wow, what a large and varied line-up. cheers deadman :-X .
- now I know how Art feels, clicked link and it tells me that because I'm not in Sweden I can not watch it. :( . sounded like a good show though.
heh, same here. Helsike! ;)
Goddamit :D Sorry about that guys I didn´t realize it would be restricted to sweden only :'(
not your fault, deadman. It's the spirit that counts, thanks for thinking about us :)
I think I figured out how to embed videos but don't believe the site admins would like their storage space taken up with youtube music embed links. ;D
My music interests are pretty eclectic. I spend a lot of time searching out artists who bring something very special to the table but may not be well known or may have sadly faded into obscurity after their passing.
Jeffrey Foucault
Darrell Scott
Patty Griffin
Esbjorn Svennson Trio
Esperanza Spalding
Tina Dickow (Dico)
The Drive By Truckers
Derek Trucks
Hayes Carll
James McMurtry
Emily Remler
Laura Nyro
Tommy Bolin
Been a Pat Metheny fan for over 30 years. And Anna Maria Jopek is pretty easy on the ears and eyes as well. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI_Sq-S5dug
That was good! :) :-X
Never heard any of the names you mentioned above... hehe, very cool to see how many different tastes we have, and how we can get to know stuff we may not even have heard of otherwise. Thanks, Eeyore :)
Here's a sampling of some of the folks I listed...
Tina Dico
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMat6dqM298
Jeffrey Foucault:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8m97uzFYA4
Esbjorn Svennson Trio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew0Hs7-hX6E
Darrell Scott:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6mTu96ny74
Emily Remler with Barbara Dennerlein:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGVXr4Ji49o
Derek Trucks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vuadh1o0yC8
Tommy Bolin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5CGabvp0I
Patty Griffin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwnjhxR_44A
Hope you don't have anything to do for while. ;D
hehehe, cheers :)
Funny, the first link (Tina Dico) shows a TV channel I know, "NDR" (NordDeutscher Rundfunk = Northern German Broadcast) ;D
The Emily Remler clip is from a German show as well.
I'm very thankful for EU Television programs. They have preserved some wonderful live performances that otherwise might have been lost -- John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Wes Montgomery, etc.
we have a lot of that stuff on different shows and stations, and I am also glad they do that.
I've just finished listening to Esbjörn Svensson Trio - Behind The Yashmak (live), which I really liked ;D :-X :-X
wow, usually not my cup of tea, but Darrell Scott at Bristol Rhythm and Roots 2008 really's got the rhythm and what a powerful play on that guitar. NICE :-X
You really got me going there, Eeyore, with Emily Remler & Barbara Dennerlein - Stormy Weather Blues ;D What a nice Hammond organ... and also, "Desdemona" - Derek Trucks Guitar Solo was really nice... I couldn't help but deviate a little to check something out. Will resume listening thereafter :) :
The jazz and all the stuff you put me through reminded me of Giants that I need to bring to your attention (all of you):
Check out Art (hehe) Blakey, that guy and that tune is what I grew up with, along with some of the following good stuff.
Moanin'-Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers (if possible, play the HD stereo version, which I have prepared for you, else remove the "&fmt=18" at the end of the URL.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vglFMb9zUo&fmt=18
If that doesn't shake your bones and make you swing ;D
You may all know this, but Dave Brubeck and "Take five" is one of the all time classics... (hope you won't see a pink label stating it was a sony music title and therefore no longer available... if so, just check for Dave Brubeck's take five. No one else's :) )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmDDOFXSgAs
And there is another Giant, Gerry Mulligan, which is the best white sax player I can think of. I found a nice recording with other Giants, from a 1958 record:
Stan Getz, Gerry Mulligan, Harrie Edison & Oscar Peterson Trio - Chocolate Sundae
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVVsxRIm_8o&fmt=18
Hope you like this kind of Jazz, at least after all this :)
the last two of your links were a brutal contrast to what I had just come up with, and it put me into a totally different mood. Man, that Tommy Bolin died at the age of 25 but the pics in that vid seem to show his life as a teen to I don't know, 40s? Reminded me somewhat of Elvis (not the music, but the looks) and it looked like he was poisoned with drugs in the end. Sad.
Nevertheless, a very interesting choice of music you came up with, thanks a lot :)
Bolin was a really gifted player. Clips of him not playing as a member of Deep Purple or The James Gang are pretty rare. As a solo performer, he had more of a jazz / fusion style.
Both he and Emily Remler fell victim to drugs. Damn shame.
Tommy Bolin was the only performer on your list that I knew. His "Private Eyes" album is one of my faves :-X
Come Taste The Band is my favourite Deep Purple album. I thought Bolin injected some much needed new spirit into the band after Burn and Stormbringer.
Quote from: Art Blade on January 12, 2010, 02:31:02 PM
You really got me going there, Eeyore, with Emily Remler & Barbara Dennerlein - Stormy Weather Blues ;D What a nice Hammond organ... and also, "Desdemona" - Derek Trucks Guitar Solo was really nice... I couldn't help but deviate a little to check something out. Will resume listening thereafter :) :
The jazz and all the stuff you put me through reminded me of Giants that I need to bring to your attention (all of you):
Check out Art (hehe) Blakey, that guy and that tune is what I grew up with, along with some of the following good stuff.
Moanin'-Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers (if possible, play the HD stereo version, which I have prepared for you, else remove the "&fmt=18" at the end of the URL.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vglFMb9zUo&fmt=18
If that doesn't shake your bones and make you swing ;D
You may all know this, but Dave Brubeck and "Take five" is one of the all time classics... (hope you won't see a pink label stating it was a sony music title and therefore no longer available... if so, just check for Dave Brubeck's take five. No one else's :) )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmDDOFXSgAs
And there is another Giant, Gerry Mulligan, which is the best white sax player I can think of. I found a nice recording with other Giants, from a 1958 record:
Stan Getz, Gerry Mulligan, Harrie Edison & Oscar Peterson Trio - Chocolate Sundae
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVVsxRIm_8o&fmt=18
Hope you like this kind of Jazz, at least after all this :)
Oh yeah...I'm familiar with most of that. :-X
My parents took me to New Orleans several times when I was a young trumpet player. They let me hang out at Preservation Hall where I would visit with the old black musicians between sets. I developed a love of jazz pretty early and even though the trumpet playing was a bust for me, I still go through phases when I listen to a lot of Jazz.
Teenage years were a bit strange -- I had Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Robin Trower, Dave Brubeck, Weather Report, and Stanley Clarke 8 tracks [!] in the truck. I had to listen to the Jazz stuff when I was alone, though. ;D
Here's one more for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGwpwV0epQc
And growing up in the Ozarks, I also was exposed to and developed a fondness for bluegrass and folk music.
My interests run all over the place. I play a little guitar but have no skill nor talent -- just a gift for appreciating virtually all genres of music, I suppose.
Fragger, Tommy Bolin is one of my favorite rock guitarists. You can tell he plays right to the edge of chaos but somehow pulls it back just when you think the rifts are about to collapse under their own weight.
So sad he couldn't do that with his own life.
Thanks for this version of Giorgia's "e poi" -- funny how there are a gazillion versions on youtube of that very artist and that very song, yet the link above is probably the only one a certain music label decided to block in certain countries...
Nice voice :-X
Quote from: eor123 on January 12, 2010, 12:48:53 PM
Here's a sampling of some of the folks I listed...
Tina Dico
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMat6dqM298
Jeffrey Foucault:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8m97uzFYA4
Esbjorn Svennson Trio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew0Hs7-hX6E
Darrell Scott:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6mTu96ny74
Emily Remler with Barbara Dennerlein:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGVXr4Ji49o
Derek Trucks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vuadh1o0yC8
Tommy Bolin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5CGabvp0I
Patty Griffin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwnjhxR_44A
Hope you don't have anything to do for while. ;D
Esbjörn Svensson trio :-X go sweden !! (small headbanging yellow dude)
Quote from: deadman on January 15, 2010, 05:17:56 AM
Esbjörn Svensson trio :-X go sweden !! (small headbanging yellow dude)
Quality. like how the pianist has tech to twiddle with on top of his piano too. :-X
I cant remember if ive posted in this thread or not, but im a big Porcupine Tree fan. Anyone else familiar with this terrific English Prog band? :-X
Sorry, no, mate. But I reckon some of the guys here will :)
Arrgh, Ric, now we're crashing with our posts. Let's move along together, sorry for interfering right now. But I just found something I wanted to "show" to those who are interested in watching a guitar player, and especially thinking of
Quote from: mandru on December 15, 2009, 09:01:45 AM
one of the artists that I could sit and watch
made me want to post what I just found (a tutorial, actually) and I found it interesting to understand what's going on.
"&fmt=18" in the link leads to HD, else use the second one for regular quality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlnZ05SGvlk&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlnZ05SGvlk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U5RHfjKneA&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U5RHfjKneA
Check out more from Marty Schwarz, he's doing loads of different styles (blues etc) tutorials and I think he's fun to watch :)
I'd like mandru to comment on that (of course, anyone's comment is welcome) :)
A very cool find Art! :-X
My focus over the last few years has been bass but I'm seeing elements there in his method that I should be able to adapt over directly (same string tunings just an octave lower) and add to my bag of tricks. I'll definitely need to go check out his other tutorials.
It also made me, for the first time in quite a while, want to break out my Charvel model 1A and foot pedals to rattle the rafters for a bit.
However, I'm unfortunately in a duplex with a neighbor that screeches through the wall and calls the police any time she even suspects there's music being played in the neighborhood.
I have a nice 600 watt full range combo amp that will handle anything from bass to guitar and keyboards but I've not even pulled the dust cover off of it after moving in here to keep her shut up.
Our duplex is set sideways to the road so that in order to get in and out of our place we have to walk past her door on the shared sidewalk and invariably she will shout "Get out of here!" at us as we go past.
After a year and a half of her dreck, in just this last week, she screamed at me through the apartment wall because I was out shoveling the public walk out in front of our place after an overnight snow storm at 6:30 am. I went out early because we live a block from an elementary school and after the morning pedestrian traffic starts at 7:00 am it is 20 times harder to chip off pack ice that's formed as people walk over it.
So I in my biggest booming voice yelled back at her to stop screaming at me and that I don't like being yelled at.
Haven't heard a peep out of her since. ;)
So maybe it is time to up the ante and break out the gear and rock the house. If she calls the police I think I could make a good case to file a counter complaint against her for harassment because I know the police have a huge backlog of her making complaint calls during times of day that people have the right to pump up the tunes.
I know the landlord wouldn't mind one bit if she were to move somewhere else. I suspect he's already been trying to encourage her to do so while thinking it is her idea.
Thanks for the great lead Art and I'll have to see what shakes out of it. ;D
glad you liked it :)
Actually, I have a guitar here, too (classical acoustic guitar) and that guy made me dig it up again ;D
And yeah, hammer that neighbour!!! ;D
@ Ricamundo - I've heard of Porcupine Tree, only bits and pieces over past few years. Thought you may like to know they are doing a Tour in the USA in April this year (even though your in Canada - no gigs listed there).
I found something... wow: "impossible guitar" -- dominic frasca
first link in HD is worth it ;) 2nd regular quality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2BOApUvFpw&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2BOApUvFpw
That is something nice I think :)
And:
four hands guitar (on ONE guitar) Antoine Dofour and Tommy Gauthier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4BYMvVvMg0&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4BYMvVvMg0
maybe something more from them (violin and guitar)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8eacuydxOs&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8eacuydxOs
man, one more from them (I don't even know those instruments)
Tommy plays two instruments and then he blended those two recordings. Excellent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ycpg_Ez-sY&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ycpg_Ez-sY
@ Art - Way back near the start of this thread you mentioned a liking of electronica.Just wondered if you had heard of Autechre and Boards of Canada ? They are the 2 that I keep going back to.
Autechre were a big influence for me when I was involved in making music a few years back.
There is a fair selection of both on youtube but not all have actual videos to the tracks.
not heard of them, will take a look mate, cheers :)
hahaha, nice one, I really didn't expect that! ;D
Here's what I think is worth a look, a 720p HD version of
Autechre: Gantz Graf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyJfHU4GoOQ&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyJfHU4GoOQ
This reminds me of FAT (Foetus Art Terrorism) -- nothing to do with me, hehe -- and perhaps some Front242 with a tad of Kraftwerk, in a joint deaf jam nervous drug-induced breakdown. I haven't seen or heard anything quite like that before, hahaha ;D
QuoteThe music video for "Gantz Graf" reached a cult status in underground computer-generated imagery art circles. The video features an abstract object (or an agglomeration of objects) perfectly synchronized to the sounds in the music as it morphs, pulsates, shakes, and finally dissolves. The visuals contain the same amount of richness and detail as the soundtrack does, having a visual counterpart to every little sound or frequency range in the song. Alex Rutterford (who had previously created an unofficial video for the Tri Repetae track "Eutow" as part of a Channel 4 music programme in 2001) claims the idea for the "Gantz Graf" video came during one of his LSD trips.
Just so you know what FAT is (I got the 12" with exactly that same cover), here take a look at "calamity crash"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOsgU1BsoDA&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOsgU1BsoDA
and Front242 "Headhunter" (by the way, hehe, funny video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPpUFBVSyWs&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPpUFBVSyWs
Boards of Canada was way way softer, nice actually. Some very nice vids, too :)
dayvan cowboy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrBZeWjGjl8&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrBZeWjGjl8
Music is Math
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7bKe_Zgk4o&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7bKe_Zgk4o
nice tip, Red :) :-X
Quote from: Art Blade on January 16, 2010, 12:57:59 PM
man, one more from them (I don't even know those instruments)
Tommy plays two instruments and then he blended those two recordings. Excellent.
The smaller instrument is a mandolin the larger instrument is another member of the mandolin family, the mandola. Both of these and the other members of the mandolin family though double stringed. Each pair of strings double the note played the same as a 12 string guitar does. The mandolin family instruments are strummed or plucked and compare directly in size and tuning to the instruments in the violin, viola and cello family.
A mandolin is tuned the same as a violin. The mandola is tuned the same as the violin's larger relative the viola and the even larger mandocello is a parallel of the cello and while there was a double bass version of the mandolin family it was viewed as a novelty and never really caught on well enough to ever have a name stick to it. The bass mandolin was introduced to complete a mandolin based orchestra but the double string arrangement of that big honker slapped each other and rattled so much that it quickly went out of favor and an upright bass was used instead.
For real weirdness the banjo also falls somewhere into this stringed arms race with the progressively smaller banjola (now called alto banjos if any still exist) and the banjolin but I don't want to go there. ???
Hehe, I didn't realise those were mandolins. I've seen some live, long ago :) Thanks for the detailed info, mandru.
Those guys are great, and I liked that monster guitar of Dominic Frasca :)
Boards of Canada are very chilled, good lazy sunday music. Autechre's earlier stuff is about as main-stream as they ever got, then it just kept getting darker and weirder, they use alot of different tech from high end computer software down to cut & splice with tape. Some of their tracks are master pieces, some very clever stuff going on, many layers of sound flowing in, out and through each other. They did a couple of good remixes of some Tortoise tracks.
Its because of electronica like that I started getting into old jazz.
Glad you found it interesting ;D
Since you came up with this topic, we've been through quite a bit of sound, a rather versatile choice of music we've got here, and quite a journey to get through all of it :) :-X
A great philosopher once said -
Without Music life would be an error
I agree ;D
quoting Nietzsche, are we :)
QuoteNothing separates the generations more than music. By the time a child is eight or nine, he has developed a passion for his own music that is even stronger than his passions for procrastination and weird clothes.
- Bill Cosby.
This is the pinnacle of my period as a 'musician', its from all the way back in 2002.
[smg id=1916 type=av]
Enjoy.
That is really nice :-X Chillax mode & endless-loop: ON/OFF
Very cool RedRaven. I like it! 8) :-X
Professionally done vid RR, nice. :-X
Speaking of chillaxing type music, any fans of...
David Sylvian
Ian Brown
Zero 7
Morcheeba
No-Man
or more mainstream stuff, like Depeche Mode, Elbow, Doves, Editors.
Cheers :)
Apart from Depeche Mode (not exactly my cup of tea, though) I know none of those bands. I'll try to find some of them on youtube :)
Morcheeba is great... have all their albums! :-X
And Red... great vid... very cool indeed!! 8)
Been listening to the Last King of Scotland soundtrack... great film, great soundtrack
Here are a couple of my favousites
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlJVjupTYa4&feature=PlayList&p=928CDBEE0F4C81B8&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2
This one is an old Janis Joplin song, Me and Bobby McGee in an african accent... beautyfull
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P25NeHCuFPo&feature=related
:-X
Alexey Omelchuk did the soundtrack for Stalker Call of Pripyat, I got it as a bonus disc when I got the game. Most of the track are on youtube but they are audio only.
Very atmospheric in the game, good on its own too ;D
In CS, I liked the occasional guitar play, which was part of the idle animations, of fellow stalkers and other people. Especially when gathering around camp fires... :)
Some of the mods change what they play on the acoustic guitars around campfires. Best one I heard was an acoustic rendition of some early Metallica.
It would be good to see more up & coming talented musician's involved in the gaming industry in the same way as Actors have by voicing characters.
I have just rediscovered the music from Mike Oldfield, omg can he play guitar. Here´s a few samples for you:
Women of Ireland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D2nxNC5n9I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D2nxNC5n9I)
Moonlight shadow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt8d3Shlfrg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt8d3Shlfrg)
Quicksilver
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPFkUfe7k9c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPFkUfe7k9c)
And ofcourse one can´t forget about the monumental Tubular bells
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lXPgbWGbG8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lXPgbWGbG8)
;D
memories of the 80s kicking in :)
He was more 70's, wasn't he?
Well, Tubular Bells was at least...
now you may slap me around with a large trout: I immediately connected his name with one of many remakes of his tune from Exorcist, tubular bells, which was popular among some friends of mine in the 80s. Well, mainly because my 70s music memories, in form of vinyl, is comprised of a lot of funk and soul, else some of the just then evolving "disco," Mike didn't quite fit in ;)
Saw this earlier and it could easily be the basis for a Stalker style game.
http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=601688 (http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=601688)
Good song too ;D
Good'ole Metallica doing what they do best... :-X :-X :-X
Love the drums... excellent song...
Yeah, I like that kind of stuff my mum used to call NOISE... 8) 8)
Oh that wasn't noise? And this is me thinking I was listening to fighter plane engines all the time.
<ducks for cover and sneaks away> ;)
That was pretty amusing RedRaven. :-X
Hey people, I've finally managed to transfer two songs from my old puter to this rig here (using an mp3 stick). So I'm actually about to upload two pieces that are completely my own doings, no prefab stuff, no auto-harmoniser, nothing but my own ideas.
The songs I'll upload in a minute are called "A little swinging (http://openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=140)" which is probably some 12 years old, genre is Jazz (at least that's where I'd put it) and I used Cubase as a sequencer, and audio recordings of real instruments that played a single note (wav files) which can be processed (transposed) and used as instruments for it. You could call those "samples" too. It was a mere fun play, nothing fancy, but just so you get an idea of what you could do with a PC.
The second one was created using MadTracker, the free program I already mentioned to mandru. It also uses samples, and VST plugins, along with some ways of manipulating sound, so you can make a piano sound like anything else, say a fancy synthesizer. It allows a lot of freedom creating stuff. So, ArtBladeHouse (http://openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=139) (genre House, or "pop music" hehe) is just another example of what you could do with your PC. Again, no prefabs, and nothing too fancy, just something I did during a single day having fun creating sounds.
Hope you have some fun listening.
Just wanted to add that the house tune is from this weekend, yesterday, so you definitely are the first people to hear it ;)
Was looking for a video of JJ Grey and Mofro's "Lochloosa" and came across 11 year old Almira Fawn performing on stage with them and performing her rendition of "Lochloosa," in which she changes the words to "Appalachia."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7BLVYSbHY0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7BLVYSbHY0)
Watched a few more of her youtube videos. Her talent is actually kind of spooky -- "an old soul in a young person's body" as my wife observed.
...and she doesn't seem to get rattled by the technical difficulties that delay the start of her performance.
yes, no stage-fright whatsoever, and two instruments at the same time... old soul -- do those children actually have a childhood?
Quote from: Art Blade on April 05, 2010, 06:13:29 AM
Hey people, I've finally managed to transfer two songs from my old puter to this rig here (using an mp3 stick). So I'm actually about to upload two pieces that are completely my own doings, no prefab stuff, no auto-harmoniser, nothing but my own ideas. ...
... Hope you have some fun listening.
Sorry I've been so long responding on this Art. I was headed out of town for a few days when I spotted you had posted these songs and had to wait until I got back and had a good time to to see what was there.
I enjoyed both pieces. ArtBladeHouse (my favorite of the two) had a techno drive to it and I've always liked techno dance mixes over disco any day.
"A little swinging" as a fun little intimate club number is very nice also. :-X
You're sharing these makes me think I need to break down, pool my pennies for the $112 and buy a copy of KarmaFx Synth Modular so I can get back to my w@&k in the Psycle sequencer suite I have been using if only to keep my mind busy and give me something to do so I'm not developing Alzheimer's and slipping off some day into the African desert North of Shwasana and being unable (unwilling?) to find my way back.
Thank you for your replying and for your kind words, mandru.
I was starting to worry a little because not even you said anything. I don't fear criticism, but nothing at all really is the worst that can happen ;D I'm glad you had some joy listening to those tunes. And by all means, do get back into making music. Please share with us what you can, if you can, because I think a lot of people have just no idea what is going on, what is on a musician's mind. I'll tell you a little for starters.
I fondly remember three useful comments from different people.
The first was, "don't pack everything (instruments) you have got into one song, it's making it too dense to recognise anything, and the good parts just vanish in the sea of sound" - Bluntly put: less is more.
The second was, "try to create some kind of a (lead) melody, something that sticks out, something recogniseable. Not just jam."
The third was (after listening to a song created by midi-instruments that came prefab with sound cards or presets from synthesizers), "you need to get rid of those plastic sounds. I can immediately tell which synth provided which instrument. Get some real recordings of instruments from the web or a CD, rip it yourself if you like, but it really shouldn't sound like any prefab stuff. Make it sound individual, if you use a computer or synths."
Thanks to computers, PCs these days, we can virtually make everything possible. It's not even necessary to be able to read or write notes, modern programs and how they display music remind more of an excel sheet than anything (there are classic note displays, too, of course, if you really want to do it the old-fashioned way). Today it's like what you see is what you hear, editing notes while they play, or step sequencing, placing notes with mouse or keyboard... everyone can do it. The results may not exactly sound like the next billboard hit, but it's the fun factor that counts. As long as you have fun, do it for yourself. If you show it to someone you trust, you might get useful comments.
What I learned over time was to experiment with sounds; to change, replace and tweak them until it became something different, something unique. And I tried to create some stuff with structure, a build-up, some changes somewhere in between... a process of learning which is also a progress in experimenting and creating, and above all, fun.
First I start with a simple rhythm, either bass drum or hi-hat, or both, to start getting into the groove. Then I add the first basic notes for a bass. Bass and Bassdrum. That's how I start getting ideas. Then I randomly add an instrument and start adding notes for it so a simple melody builds up. Usually I add some more percussions and tweak the bass line, then play around with the melody part. Then I get an idea of the sound, and exchange the instruments, like different bass, different instrument for the (lead) melody, change bassdrum sounds, change hi-hats, add some claps... then add something like a chorus. Remove some stuff that now makes things sound too thick, too complex. Good idea: Copy and paste a pattern or a track, keep that, and modify the copy of it. Play them and listen to the changes. Change sounds, modify instruments...
Get the picture? That is a process of hours, sometimes days. Good idea is to leave the song alone for a day or two, return to it, and your ears will be fresh and unbiased, which will often reveal stuff that is out of sync or disharmonious. Sometimes I discard the whole w@&k and start from scratch, sometimes I change it so much that it becomes something entirely different. That is the fun of creating music. Almost like playing Open World Games, do what you like, when you like, the way you like it :)
The swing tune is rather old, it is one of the first tunes I created using real instrument recordings (single notes, then processed and combined and transposed and over-dubbed...) and also trying to w@&k out lead melody parts and a chorus.
The House sound was created using real instrument recordings and synthesized sounds, all of which massively tweaked and worked over using stuff like LFO, filters, effects, delay, you name it. One of the most difficult things is to create a bass drum sound that has enough pressure to make it sound hard and powerful but synthetic in a way, you need to play a lot with the little buttons and sliders hehehe. That tune is also rather minimal in its structure and the use of different instruments is sparse. Something I find rather difficult to handle is not to start turning it into melodic funk or jazz, just reduce it so it is monotonous enough to still pass as House.
Well, that's about what I can tell you right away about those two tunes and about myself making music.
Quote from: Art Blade on April 08, 2010, 02:58:27 PM
... I don't fear criticism, but nothing at all really is the worst that can happen ...
My goodness, I didn't even see your original post! I guess the take home lesson is that even if nothing is said, that doesn't necessarily mean that no one wants to make a comment - some oldsters like me might have just missed it.
I downloaded and enjoyed the jazzy tunes quite a bit - one (ArtBladeSwing) reminds me of a CD that I love to listen to when relaxing with a glass of wine after w@&k - the CD is titled Big City Blues, and is a collection of various artists - definitely my favorite jazz CD.
Good job, my talented friend :-X
waheyyyy ;D Thanks a lot, my old friend :)
Just goes to show you again that you never know what talent lies in the membership of our little group! ;)
Thanks for the info Art.
Part of the reason I like the KarmaFx system is that it has a sampler that includes a Delta function.
When you've sampled a note or a sound many samplers treat it as a middle C so when you play that note back but raised one octave it cuts the duration of the sampled note by 50% or if played an octave lower it doubles the duration of the note which creates an unrealistic feel.
The Delta function I mentioned allows you to set a standard of how long a note is supposed to ring with out regard to how high or low it has been pitch shifted.
Sorry to worry you with the slow reply, you posted (and I spotted) your songs the morning we were headed out to spend a couple days at a hotel and casino that is a two hour drive from where we live across the state line into Nevada so I marked the thread as unread so I could find it again and waited till I got back so I could have time to listen to them without rushing.
I may have to ask for tips to setting up a folder for my one song that's up on the boards and some of the others once I get around to posting more of my songs to keep them in one place but I'll get to that later. ;D
Don't worry about late replies, I was merely saying YOU WORRIED ME but that's all. ;D We'll get your folders sorted, mate, when you need it just give us a shout ;D
Cool! :) Thanks again Art
welcome :) By the way, that delta thingy "sounds" really cool, I know exactly what you mean. The lack of time-streching and pitch control functions most programs present us with is indeed annoying. What you can do about it is use recordings of different notes, ie C3, G3, C4, G4 etc so the sound will stay authentic enough.
Art, I've posted my composition "Thorns In the Garden of Stone (http://openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=141)" in the downloads.
As noted above this song uses the sampler in the KarmaFX suite that has the Delta function to control duration of pitch changed notes. The effected note in this case is a middle C sampled from a decent grand piano.
Because I haven't practiced my download skills and kept them sharp I can't say click "Here" so I'll point to the conveniently placed link below. :-[
Apparently, the song titles are now clickable ;)
I've also uploaded a short song "Sparring with Shadows (http://openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=142)" from my Drawn day works that I'm kind of fond of.
Moving in a different direction the link below is for my song "Point of Impact (http://openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=143)" with which I almost drove my neighbors crazy with during the couple weeks I was working on it because I'd crank my sound system to its limits so I could stand on the front porch and have a cigarette and still hear the details. I like it loud. :P
I should note that the songs on my Drawn Day collection were intended more as sound tracking and mood-scapes than as anything I'd try to put forward as a box top hits type songs. The Drawn Day album (an archaic word?) was intended to be a audio visualization walk through of the moods encountered in a typical day so I'll spare you the pieces that were crafted to express the doldrums of things like the long drive home. ;D
mandru, check your post again... song titles are now clickable :)
"Thorns In the Garden of Stone" put a smile on my face. Nice arrangement, the GP (lol, Grand Piano) isn't bad at all, if it really was only a single note recording being used. Impressive what you can get out of it, then :) The song reminded me of film music; a little of the original "The Fog" by John Carpenter. A dream-like atmosphere you created there, nice :-X
"Sparring with Shadows" instantly reminded me of our discussion back in this topic when we were talking about those old step sequencers and modular sequencers. The song has got a funny (nice) touch of old-school analog synths, yet also some sound-FX white noise elements and I recognise different classic synth wave forms (ie sawtooth). The filters you used like ranging from low to high pass and the ongoing change in modulation was fun to listen to. I believe you'd like to have a drum synth or drum recordings to experiment with, like different drum kit recordings, I think the drum kits you used were kind of "default" or preset, in that particular recording. The song appears to me like something you see when you are on a train, passing a town... a momentarily situation in progress, without intro or extro. It was fun to get that glance at you experimenting with sound and melody :)
Those drums in "Point of Impact" were different, I liked those (and the rhythm, almost like a medieval dance), your synth drums reminded me of a blend of toms. Hehe, good one, that :) The synth with a heavy distortion to it is interesting because it contrasts the mellow melody, and I had to listen to it a couple of times in a row, I see why you'd like to play it loud and drive the neighbours crazy with that ;D
Thanks for sharing those tunes mate, I am looking forward to listening to more :-X
In general I like it when we are given the opportunity to examine and enjoy the works of an artist and on top have a chat with him/her about their w@&k.
Well, I'm going to play those tunes a couple of times more, they are currently playing in a loop and in the taskbar I see "...aka mandru" :)
Thanks for the help with the links there Art and the feedback.
Drums are admittedly a weak point for me. Outside of the 4/4 or 3/4 structure of the standard music notation I struggle with more complex rhythms.
I do have a good sample disc of drums that were recorded and released by Mick Fleetwood through Acid Loops which was used in "Thorns". In that example I selected from Mick's single strike samples but obviously my skills in composing drum lines don't even scratch the surface of the potential of Mick's samples. ;)
I'm not sure, but I think that you're creating the drum parts either early if not right away, and keep them easy without working them over later, or add them rather late because "something is missing, they expect me to add some drums." If you find it difficult to create a wicked rhythm, try adding echo (reverb) to single percussive parts such as a closed high hat (CHH) and use a non-4/4 measure for it, like 6/8 or even better 5/4 measures. If the reverb creates a rhythm that breakes up the 4/4 rhythm, then it will warp through the song (doesn't repeat exactly after one bar but say 6 or more bars, make the measure or reverb time odd so it takes longer) and create a drive you can't really make out where it comes from, yet it will add a groove you're probably looking for.
Another way of supporting a rhythm could be by creating a stereoscopic panning of a single instrument that goes left-centre-right and reverse, looped. Simple, really, but makes a difference if you don't want to add anything else.
I'd then try to break that monotonous rhythm by either removing single notes or adding some on an off-beat basis. Don't overdo it or it will sound chaotic and destroy a rhythm, but you'll need to listen to it and decide where something needs emphasis or reduction, add or remove as you hear fit.
When you listen to the tunes I uploaded, you'll notice that the jazz tune has the snare drum do variations all over the place, no bar is alike. The house tune's lead melody (second synth that sounds more like a distorted sawtooth), the synthesizer plays some sort of staccato and is octave-jumping, it is programmed to use different measures. Also in the house tune there is a stereo panning for a phaser- and flanger-like sound effect I manipulated a high hat with, it uses the rhythm delay trick with a 6-click echo. You'll notice when you get to the more silent part when the second (wah-) bass kicks in. Also, the house tune actually is comprised of two identical parts, the second part takes with it the not stopped synthesizer which is on a warped trip due to the off-beat measure; makes it sound like a bridge. Listen to it again and see if you recognise it :)
Thanks for the tips Art. I'll definitely need to try some of the things you've suggested in future works.
I've spent most of the last twenty years as a bassist trying to get further away from the drums but it seems that I always end up stuck right next to them. Usually I'm jammed in so close that if I move wrong checking my amp I end up hitting a crash cymbal with my bass. Because of that I think I have a mental block when it comes to drums. ;)
That twenty years has been under the same band leader. During that time we've probably gone through twelve drummers and for some reason the band leader has gotten it in his head that I know something about drums. Maybe it's because I'm standing where he's told me to stand and by way of my always being the closest to the drummer it has caused me to soak it up through osmosis.
It's become a running joke for me whenever we are breaking in a new drummer the band leader invariably turns to me and says "Help him out."
I always come back with "He's quitting already? Oh well, where's he parked and what should I grab first?"
hahaha ;D Although I was thinking about programming drums, I can relate. At least I played drums myself a little, enough to understand basic priciples, but programming drums rids you of physical limitations and allows for rediculously complex arrangements probably no drummer alone could perform. I sometimes use different drum kits simultaneously which, in your case, requires at least two or more drummers. You'd be waving good-bye to more drummers than you shook hands with saying "hello and welcome aboard" ;D
Hehehe
I'm no muso, but my Dad is (keyboards, terrific). He refers to drummers as "Musician's Labourers" ;D
On the subject of frenetic drummers, I always admired Carl Palmer from Emerson, Lake and Palmer. I think he's actually a mutant with a third arm growing out of his back and some extra drums hidden behind him. Some of what he did sounded impossible, except that I've actually seen him do it 8)
Hey people, a long youtube journey led me to something I want to share with you.
Matt Savage
Don't stop just because you'll see a
boy on the piano.. he's a savant, a music (piano) prodigy -- basically a savant is someone with a dysfunctional brain (autistic person) that on one hand handicaps him in "normal" situations (like average day life) but on the other hand makes him a genius in a specific field, performing like a master with a long training. This little fellow is really worth watching.. and listening to. I'm really considering buying CDs by that guy :)
If you want to see a small docu about him first, take a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o7RBjrkb0A
This is jazz. Enjoy :)
The Matt Savage Trio plays Matt's original composition, "El Fuego"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aXZkFRVdzI
Matt Savage Trio - Infected with Hemiolahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X57yM6S1bRQ
Matt Savage plays "Blues in 33/8" in New Yorkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGD1gl0YtfM
The Matt Savage Trio plays Matt's original composition, "A 6/4 Song" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cubHlq0I_uw
(strange, not a single reply?)
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David MeShow
Something for you guitar players, rock and heavy metal and all that... youtube's #1 with 20m views (phew). This guy David is a French-speaking Canadian musician who is a one-man-show (plays various instruments), and both music and entertainment as in how he presents his music are really good :)
http://www.youtube.com/user/DavidMeShow
I did check out the Matt Savage vids shortly after you posted them and they were technically solid and well played. The unusual timing schemes in those pieces put them outside of my particular preferences and left me a bit unsettled where I have a habit of tapping a toe in time to something I'm trying to listen to.
The David MeShow vid on the other hand was very good and for me as a bass player has a beat I can dig into and get under. Very nice. :-X
I tend to favor music styles that I at least have a chance of being able to reproduce. :P
Thanks for your reply, mandru, apparently you're the one and only guy who goes through every post here (apart from me) ;) :-X
I'm not much of a music fan in my old years - I'm beginning to feel a bit like retiredgord. ;D
do you mean you're going deaf, too?
AAaaaaahhhh! <runs away dodging thrown objects> ;D
ehhh??? ;D
note to self: That guy is blind too, so he can't even read lips.. I'll leave him be.
;D
Quote from: Art Blade on June 17, 2010, 11:55:58 AM
note to self: That guy is blind too, so he can't even read lips.. I'll leave him be.
Fortunately he can magnify the font on his PC ;D
OMG! EVERYBODY, RUN!!! ;D
I had to share this picture of a really nice piece of wood. This is a Carvin B Series custom shop 5 string bass. In this example the body wood is one of the most atypical pieces of mahogany I think I've ever seen with satin finish.
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I don't really care for the jellybean shaped headstock of the B series guitars(with the 4 + 1 tuning peg arrangement as I prefer the more spearhead shaped headstock of their LB or XB series basses) but I'd chew of my left leg at the hip if it would get me that 1 in a 10,000 beautiful piece of wood.
Either that or I could just figure out a way to come up with the $919 this guitar is selling for as one of the currently in-stock guitars at the Carvin site. ;D
That's a very classy looking instrument there, mate, lovely piece of wood used in it.
I'm not a musician, but my Dad is, so I've been around instruments and musicians all my life, but I never realised there was such a thing as a 5-string bass.
I wasn't aware of a 5-string bass, either, but looks cool. That mahogany body.. I bet it takes a while to burn that to ashes.
;D
The 5-string gives the bassist an additional five steps lower than the typical low E (down to low B) for some extended range. There are even 6-string basses that add a high string above the typical 4-string basses are typically tuned to C. It just boils down to having a higher and lower string gives the player more options towards where on the guitar they want to play by starting their patterns up or down the neck. Personally because of its fingerboard width the 6-string is more of a handful than I want to wrestle with.
My bass is from this same company but is one of the LB Series and is also a 5-string but instead of being a bolt on 5 piece neck (laminated layers of alternating rock maple and mahogany giving the two visible dark stripes) the rock maple neck runs through the entire length of the body so that from tuning pegs to bottom bridge the strings are suspended by a single piece of wood that extends the ring time when a note is plucked and I like to think improves the tonality. Also my guitar instead of being mahogany has black walnut body sides with the previously mentioned maple neck running through finished in tung oil.
As for burning it up Art. I've been burning mine up for several years now and haven't suffered any charring yet. Playing driving bass is a lot like trying to manage a musical jackhammer. When I'm behaving myself I can almost vanish into the mix but I can easily blow the rest of the musicians off the stage with plenty of slamming low end power.
very interesting read mandru :) I have always been fond of The Bass in music although I've never played it. When I compose music on the PC, I sometimes make it a double bass just to blow myself away sitting in the centre of my 5.1 surround with the bass making stuff on my desk rattle. ;D
:)
Out of curiosity Art what program are you using to mix surround 5.1?
I don't create real 5.1, just stereo, and then use the soundcard's delay and echo and stuff to create virtual surround sound. I used to w@&k with a professional who used Steinberg's Nuendo and Cubase Pro to create true 5.1
By the way, mandru, I was very surprised to see that you too started to add links in your pic descriptions leading to those posts they were used in. Well done, my son ;D :-X
Thanks Art. I think I've got an old program floating around in a box somewhere in my apartment that has a copy of Cubase bundled in it. :)
I think the Gallery upload "Link to thread" was one of the first posting tips that you gave us so I copied and pasted how to do it and have tried to include that when I'm putting a picture into the gallery.
It just helps when an image catches someone's attention and they want to see what it's about. 8)
that's exactly what it does, and it led me here to remark about it ;D
Since mandru posted that image of his 5-string bass, I was inspired to post this picture of Jimmy Page's Gibson 1275 twin-neck - which I own!
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Nah, just joking - it's only a model! There's a chap in Sydney who makes these amazing mini-replicas.
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I also have this Fender Stratocaster model and what I think is something like a Gibson Les Paul (Anyone? I'd like to know what it's really a replica of). This fellow makes about 20 different models, and the detail of them is meticulous. My photos don't really do them justice, they're just like miniature versions of the real thing. You could almost play them, if you were about 14 inches tall.
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That spoiler is just the duck's guts, mate ^+-+ :-X
lol, perfect use of the spoiler button! :-X
indeed :)
By the way:
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Those guitars are real and their size is normal. The only thing fake is that oversized ruler.
You got me on that one! :-D
teehee ^-^
Enviably collectible fragger. :-X
Spoiler
I was going to say sweet little Twin SG fragger before I clicked the spoiler and saw how, that thought, was more accurate than I realized. 8)
The bottom guitar is a Gretsch Double Cut (cut away to allow full access to the highest frets) though I've not been able to identify the exact year and model as the unique headstock has me a bit baffled.
The top guitar also has a unique headstock and I'm afraid my identification skills on guitars beyond being able to recognize the three single coil pickup configuration as a Strat variant (though they may well be double stacked or twinblade humbucking pickups created to fit in a single coil pickup's space).
On closer examination I would really like to identify the top guitar's make and model because it has a highly interesting control cluster and I always go a bit crazy for buttons and dials. ;D
Thanks guys, lol :) :-()
And thanks for the info, mandru. I figured you'd be the man there :-X
I mistakenly listed one as a Strat before remembering that I considered buying that, but ended up going for the ones you see here instead.
Maybe mandru's nick should be "musicman" :-()
among other titles ;D
Actually Art, I think that should be "Among other pejoratives." ;)
I've worked hard over the last 20 years to escape being known as a know-it-all. Looks like I may need to tighten up my efforts in that direction.
Your knowledge is very much appreciated here and by far not dismissed. Don't worry, mate ;)
We like you just the way you have been, mandru - it is just fine to wear many hats in this organization :-X ;)
My thoughts exactly :) I for one love to be around those who have a good deal of knowledge about a broad range of topics. They make for stimulating conversation, and I can learn from them :-X
Embrace your know-it-allness, mandru! I'd rather be around a know-it-all than be around a know-nothing-at-all-about-anything ;D
hehe, "I'd rather be around a know-it-all than be around a know-nothing-at-all-about-anything" who talks like he knew everything about anything. ;D
;D
A know-it-all is a guy interested in many diverse subjects, a person who will always learn and pass on his experience!
A jackass is a guy who will never admit he might be wrong or accept more information that makes him change his mind!
Open mind-ness is the key!
Open Mind, Open World... get it? See it? ;) ;D
I guess the key term in our success both professionally and on our forum is "open" ;)
and perhaps "mind" ;D
:-X
Mandru.. I have something for you.. 1969 MOOG (wait until 1:21), original "popcorn" tune ;D
Gershon Kingsley - Popcorn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSRCemf2JHc#)
and here the master himself (well.. just so we know who it is)
Gershon Kingsley plays Popcorn 2007 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZWfywvuHt0#ws)
Ahhh.. one more for you, mandru.. an MCS70 recording of 1978 ;D
Automat - Droid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FyjPxkxaq8#)
Cool vids Art. Thanks.
Gershon Kingsley at the end of the clip featuring him playing cracked me up by looking at the camera at the end and saying "It's all in F." as if it was something that went without saying.
I enjoyed those. Popcorn made me jump over to Youtube and look up Joy by Apollo 100 because in my mind's eye I saw these two as being contemporaries with each other and I wandered off on few of the connected links. Then that led to searching out Walter Murphy & the Big Apple band's A Fifth Of Beethoven and that led to ELO's Roll Over Beethoven.
Next thing I know I'm an hour and a half past when I was headed for bed if it hadn't been for a quick stop by OWG and see if there was any thing I needed to check out. ;D
;D "gotcha" ;)
Those were cool clips Art :-X I don't frequent this music page much, but something made me click on it today. Open question: 1969 . . . how long back does synthesizer technology date? If not much farther than this, than do things like this represent what could be considered the earliest forerunners of <gasp> techno music?
Cheers :) Always worth a look here, mate :)
oldest synths? 1876. Yes, EIGHTEEN 76 ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthesizer#History (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthesizer#History)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_music_instruments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_music_instruments)
By the way, the Popcorn tune I grew up with (I was crazy about it when I was a child) was this one here:
Hot Butter - Popcorn - 1972 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y_VHOCp7Lw#)
A more recent version is by M&H Band (not Kraftwerk) -- I have this one, (1987) special DJ version of M&H Band:
M&H Band - Pop Corn (Remix Version 87 Special D'J) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHNzseM_v6I#)
But if you want to listen to what it's like these days, check out this minimal version ( :-X )
Popcorn Original Mix Electro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVXRpXab2eE#)
WOW :o I never would have guessed something like that would have been around so long ago! Too bad there wasn't a drawing, or pic of a mock-up, or anything to give us an idea of what that first synth would have looked like. I checked out the Dr. Moog and guitar synthesizer links also - a lot of it way beyond my understanding but cool nonetheless :-X
I listened to that 1969 Gershon Kingsley clip that started this whole thing again. There's a . . . purity, for lack of a better word . . . in that sound that I really like. It's very clean and easy to listen to and appreciate, not cluttered like so much music is today. Completely new to me also . . . a few hours ago I didn't even know who Gershon Kingsley is ;D
:) :-X
Basically always true: The first is the best. Remakes etc are different but usually not better.
Let's see what you think Art. Similarities coincidental?
Quote from: Art Blade on September 08, 2010, 09:01:28 PM
Ahhh.. one more for you, mandru.. an MCS70 recording of 1978 ;D
Automat - Droid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FyjPxkxaq8#)
Vangelis -Pulsar-from Albedo 0.39 1976
Vangelis, Albedo 0.39 - Pulsar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZaLkfvQ714#)
Albedo 0.39 is a personal favorite album I had on cassette tape that I used a lot for long distance driving so when I heard Automat - Droid I flashed straight to Pulsar.
I know that one already because some nice chap who I think is still with us posted this: :)
Quote from: mandru on October 16, 2009, 08:54:26 AMArt, I can only respond to your cool link with:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZaLkfvQ714 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZaLkfvQ714)
;D
It
IS cool music. :-X
But by the way, your previous post shows a link unavailable in my country and the link I quoted is dead now.
I think the Vangelis Droid and the Automat Droid is comparable with how Kingsley's Popcorn and Hot Butter's Popcorn relate.
Sorry about the duplication there. :( Getting old I guess and I can't remember everything I say these days and I say a lot of stuff. :-D
When I click the link you quoted Art, it opens a new window in Youtube and fires it right up. There must be some kind of international blocks still in place that are interfering possibly for Europeans or even a wider audience.
As for duplicated themes... I wish I earned a penny each and every time a song played on the radio with the G, C, D chord progression. 8) :-X
:)
The music industry is quite relentless and quick when it comes to brazen through their interests. The most impressive example I've seen so far was a vid taken down only 12 hours after being uploaded.
Just a quick info: I'm not going to post about music here any more except replies to other people's posts. If you want to check what I'm currently up to (whenever you want to know) just click my signature to check out my YouTube channel which is dedicated to stuff I like. :)
Quote from: mandru on September 10, 2010, 04:27:48 PM
As for duplicated themes... I wish I earned a penny each and every time a song played on the radio with the G, C, D chord progression. 8) :-X
:-D :-X
Some folks do, unfortunately.
I don't listen to the radio anymore - in fact I think I switched off around 1978 - but on occasion when I hear it whilst being out and about, one thing I notice (and which gets my back up) is just how rampant and shameless the plagiarism of older music has become. Well, it's not really plagiarism, it's straight out duplication. Seems like every second song consists of some old riff or other piece of music that has been sampled and had new lyrics or a techno beat superimposed over it. I've heard riffs from Stevie Wonder's Superstition, Steppenwolf's The Pusher, Rod Stewart's Do Ya Think I'm Sexy, and many more that don't spring to mind immediately, where this has been done. It's such a blatant tactic to get rich quick while putting in as little effort as possible. Why knock yourself out creating original music when you can just lift someone else's and paste your own words over it? The people engaged in this practice are at best poorly gifted amateurs, and at worst are just plain dirty cheats, IMO.
They probably think a chord is what you use to keep your bathrobe fastened.
I found this while watching clips of the old muppet show with my daughter . . . reminded me of a discussion that took place a few pages back :-()
The Muppets - Popcorn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvDvTnTGjgQ#ws)
"I think there's a K in knucklehead" . . . classic ^+-+
Swedish chef, my favorite muppet :-X (and yes that´s how we swedes sound when we try and speak english >:D)
Spoiler
no not really ;)
Everything I know about Swedish culture I learned from the Swedish chef. For example, I know that you're all wildly inaccurate with a meat cleaver, and also you make salads by tossing a head of lettuce up into the air and shooting it with a blunderbuss.
Spoiler
Not really :-() :-X
Quote from: mmosu on November 25, 2010, 04:17:57 AM
Everything I know about Swedish culture I learned from the Swedish chef. For example, I know that you're all wildly inaccurate with a meat cleaver, and also you make salads by tossing a head of lettuce up into the air and shooting it with a blunderbuss.
Spoiler
Not really :-() :-X
^+-+
"this video is not available in your country." >:(( :D
No flippin way!!!! :D :D :D
Awww man, you the one I had in mind when I posted that Art >:((
Let's try this one - posted by a different user
Muppets popcorn song funny and catchy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_fSV6DXrUU&feature=related#)
Interestingly, the video is flipped 180 degrees from the one I posted first . . . weird ????
works :)
^+-+
thanks, matey :-X
Great find mmosu :-X
It took me to another muppets video...
...then another...
...then another...
...then another...
...then another...
...then another...
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ah yes, the tangled web that is YouTube :-()
I'm not even going to start to comment on that. ;D
But I know you want to . . . :-D
no. I'd need to start not a new post nor topic nor board but an entire new site/forum for that. ^+-+
http://en.video.canoe.tv/video/comedy/fail/88963890001/worst-band-butchers-pink-floyd/696471552001 (http://en.video.canoe.tv/video/comedy/fail/88963890001/worst-band-butchers-pink-floyd/696471552001) Lol, just lol. Not even sure if this should be in the music section, but it doesnt deserve it's own thread!
???
Ow, Ow, Ow!
Seriously, I've had less painful root canals. :'(
Thank you, mandru, really. I am absolutely grateful for your last comment.
It kept me from checking that link and from possible brain damage ;D :-X
:-D
Good grief! That sucked awesomely . . . sucksomely if you will. We need a "thumbs-down" icon for me to adequately express my emotions! It hits bottom around 2:50 when he tries to hit the top ^+-+ I wish my ears had been comfortably numb before I clicked the link :-()
I did enjoy the singer's professionalism in how he displayed the advanced skill of waiting for the music to catch up before plowing into the next line. ???
just reading those comments of you guys makes me happy (because I avoided that link) :-D
Quote from: mandru on December 05, 2010, 05:33:43 AM
I did enjoy the singer's professionalism in how he displayed the advanced skill of waiting for the music to catch up before plowing into the next line. ???
He probably needed the music to help remember the words . . .
That line of mandru is pure gold, by the way. ;D :-X
What gets me is how seriously they're taking themselves. Numb from the neck up ::) They should be reported to Amnesty International for crimes against the ears of humanity.
Art, you displayed remarkable prescience by not clicking that link. I shouldn't have either but curiosity overruled my natural caution and so I paid the price (insert "hurl" emotie here).
I trust my instincts and OWG, and you, on top, can always trust the Blade. :-()
;D :-X
Quote from: Art Blade on December 05, 2010, 05:04:00 PM
... always trust the Blade. :-()
You really need to play Assassin's Creed more :-()
the Blade . . . :-() :-X
:-()
For any of you out there who like lo-fi electronica style music, or just want to hear something a little different check out an artist called 'MUSLIMGAUZE'
Click HERE (http://www.youtube.com/user/RedRaven58#grid/user/77EA0677629426C4) to get to a 21 track playlist on my Youtube channel.
Hope you enjoy it.
Interesting audioscapes. This artist does have a consistent style that is present in the examples of their pieces. :-X
To say it was just one guy he was extremely prolific during his short life, (he died at 37).
From the wiki page
He released over 90 original albums on 32 different record labels, creating nearly 2,000 original songs. Many of his pieces were inspired by political facts or events. Many of his releases have been re-pressed as, after 1994, most of his albums were released in limited editions of 200–1,000. Including re-pressings, he had 192 releases as of 2008, but the number is prone to increasing further.
More info about him is on him here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslimgauze (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslimgauze) and here http://www.muslimgauze.net (http://www.muslimgauze.net/)
I really like the over-gain, crunchy and erratic beats and the fact his style is not super polished like many otherand more well known electronica artists. Certainly an inspiration to me and my music from 7-10 years ago and now.
not sure why cant get the HERE thing to w%&k, it does some times but not other!?! sorry :(
Quote from: RedRaven on April 23, 2011, 09:29:29 AMnot sure why cant get the HERE thing to w%&k, it does some times but not other!?! sorry :(
do it manually (qoute me to see how)
your code:
More info about him is on him here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslimgauze (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslimgauze) and here http://www.muslimgauze.net (http://www.muslimgauze.net/)
my code:
More info about him is on him HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslimgauze) and HERE (http://www.muslimgauze.net/)
Did do it manually thats what was frustrating about it, I remember a conversation with you many moons ago about using code in place of the quick buttons as its cleaner. Usually have no problems with it.
May be problems with my browser as still having smiley issues. Going to un / reinstall it later. Hopefully that will sort it out. Cheers again anyway Art, your a constant star.
thanks for your kind words :) Good luck with that browser of yours.. maybe try a different one like FireFox?
Quote from: Art Blade on April 23, 2011, 11:45:05 AM
thanks for your kind words :) Good luck with that browser of yours.. maybe try a different one like FireFox?
... or if you don't want to install a different browser, try IE just to see if the smileys w@&k. If not, then it is Chrome; I'm not sure if it is one of the supported browsers - hard to say.
Different topic but hey, so you who are not reading GTA IV posts, here's the music bit that I want you to be able to notice, too :)
Quote from: Art Blade on July 26, 2011, 01:06:10 PM
Actually, that made me check something from back in my youth. Hippies and 70s-lovers, here you go :-D
The 70s hippies were fond of Indian-influenced music, particularly the Sitar as spiritual instrument was quite cool ;D This here is from 1975. Funky, beware :-()
Ananda Shankar - Dancing Drums (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFpfXGifKKg#)
I could have sworn that Fiach started an Irish music topic somewhere, but either I can't find it or age is finally catching up with me (which wouldn't be much of a stretch seeing as how I've tried to outrun it but can't). In any case I've been getting into Enya's music lately - her less commercialised stuff, that is - and I find it has a tremendous chillaxing effect on me (or is that expression passé already?) To think I was once a long-haired, hard-charging, head-banging rebel who swore by the likes of Led Zep, Black Sabbath and Deep Purple and was never what you'd call a "new age" type (I never owned a lava lamp or a sitar :-()) but I have to say that Enya's misty, ethereal, neolithic compositions evoke something in my soul (she certainly doesn't consider herself "new age" - once, when asked what genre her music fell into, she replied, "Enya". I totally get that - it's her thing and it doesn't belong anywhere else). Maybe it's the residual and diluted Irish blood in me that her stuff speaks to, but the more I hear of it, the more I like it, even when it's in a language I don't understand. She's been hyped and commercialised in recent years, especially after her "May It Be..." song from the closing credits of the first Lord of the Rings film, but when I listen to her less well-known stuff I can't help but be entranced. I have to be careful if I play it while driving to w@&k lest it lull me into an alternate reality and I pursue some fey woodland sprite right into a roadside tree...
Anyway, I can't help but love and admire a woman who lives in her own castle. These are her digs:
[smg id=4637 width=600]
:laugh: :-X
I think this is the forum you are looking for mate, its on the media page at the top called Music Videos, Irish music is currently the third topic :)
http://www.openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?board=182.0 (http://www.openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?board=182.0)
Ah, so there is one! Glad it's not my age then - or maybe it is... :-\\
:-()
Talk to Gord about age related problems ???? :angel:
he wouldn't know (couldn't remember) :-()
:-() :-()
For some reason the following tune which some of the oldsters (erm.. any youngsters here? :-() ) might remember -- it just popped up in my mind and wouldn't let go of me so I
had to listen to it. First a mood-lifting video and then the sequel of the song :)
T H E T W I S T
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im9XuJJXylw
.. Let's do the twist again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RUVicdW7Ew
Oh dear and one more that just sneaked in from the back of my mind.. :laugh:
I'm a believer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfuBREMXxts
I love this one :
The Monkees: Last Train To Clarksville, 1967 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUUSdvwEC_Y#)
Why are videos covered with spoilers?
so the massive vids don't clog up my tiny post :-()
Ah, OK, thought it was a new rule or something about bandwith :)
How I love that scene where Uma and John do the twist at Jack Rabbit Slim's :-X ^-^
If I ever go to the States I also want to know what a five dollar shake tastes like ;)
Quote from: Fiach on November 28, 2012, 01:26:22 PM
Ah, OK, thought it was a new rule or something about bandwith :)
Although OWG bandwidth is not an issue; we have unlimited (bandwidth consumption is on the YouTube server and your internet provider). Having the videos in spoilers means that they do not need to load until the spoiler is clicked.
Let's say that we have 50 YouTube images embedded in a topic. Each one needs to preload the video image, which increases the time it takes to load the OWG page (our forum has to wait until all the video is preloaded from YouTube. One reason to keep the number of posts you see per page low is that your OWG page will load faster. For instance, again using the example of 50 YouTube videos; if your posts per page is set to 50, then all 50 videos need to preload. If you set your posts per page to 10, then only 10 need to load with each page refresh.
that is the long version :-X :-()
I decided to write it in a way Fiach gets it down more easily :-D ;) ^-^
Quote from: PZ on November 28, 2012, 02:50:32 PM
Although OWG bandwidth is not an issue; we have unlimited (bandwidth consumption is on the YouTube server and your internet provider). Having the videos in spoilers means that they do not need to load until the spoiler is clicked.
Let's say that we have 50 YouTube images embedded in a topic. Each one needs to preload the video image, which increases the time it takes to load the OWG page (our forum has to wait until all the video is preloaded from YouTube. One reason to keep the number of posts you see per page low is that your OWG page will load faster. For instance, again using the example of 50 YouTube videos; if your posts per page is set to 50, then all 50 videos need to preload. If you set your posts per page to 10, then only 10 need to load with each page refresh.
I knew that....er...honest I did :)
Quote from: Art Blade on November 28, 2012, 06:37:15 AM
T H E T W I S T
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im9XuJJXylw
.. Let's do the twist again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RUVicdW7Ew
Oh dear and one more that just sneaked in from the back of my mind.. :laugh:
I'm a believer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfuBREMXxts
Man....... was at the hight of my teens when The Monkees started off, won me a competition or two rockin and rollin, twist and jive, good old days :-( :'(