OK, I have to say im officially hooked on FO3. 8) I haven't even bothered to go back and finish my current playthru of FC2, nor have i touched any of my 3 currently installed racing games in the last week.
Imagine, i actually haven't touched FC2 for a whole week, even tho ive been glued to my PC. :P
PZ, if you're hesitant, like i was, don't be. The open world aspect is enormous, it feels way bigger than FC2. Imagine both maps of FC2 put together, and possibly then some. 8) I know im still in the early stages, but so far it works quite well played as an FPS game, but just by touching the mouse scroll wheel, you can toggle to 3rd person, just to see what you look like wearing some of the clothes you find in abandoned houses, as well as miriad variations of armour, and so on. in one house, i found some silk PJ's just like Hugh Hefner's. ;D
About the scale of the world, it is huge, and so far, i haven't found any vehicles i can drive around in, although there are lots of abandoned motorcycles all over, i cant activate any of them. No dune buggies, or gun trucks either. you have to walk it. There are wrecked cars everywhere, and even old military supply trucks.
Mercifully, there is a quick way of getting from A to B, as long as you have already visited that area. You just click on it in your Pipboy(HUD) and you can zap in a couple of seconds to that location. Too bad they didn't try to cover up quick travel the way they did in FC2 with the busses, to make it more realistic.
The RPG aspect is actually quite cool, in fact, i proposed over @ Ubi forums in anh FC3 wish list thingy, that Ubi should try to add some RPG characteristics to FC3, such as interation with NPC's apart from killing them that is. ;)
Some of the dialogue that you can select when having a chat with an NPC is hilarious. You can even sleep with the town hooker. :o It's the only "sleep" where the game tells you, you are "well rested" ;)
There are no safehouses, but in areas cleared of enemies, you can often find a mattress or bed to sleep in for variing no. of hours. Sleeping in FO3 will cure all health issues, even 1 hour usually does it. Sleeping, like in FC2 allows you to manipulate the time of day, so you can wander around in daylight, which i recommend. Night time in FO3 is darker than FC2, and enemies are even harder to spot.
Speaking of enemies, the compass has a built in radar of some kind that warns you of enemies ahead, if they're close, as well as how many ther are. This is a help, because they blend in so well with the landscape.
You will spend quite a lot of time scrounginmg for bottle caps(currency) to buy repairs to weapons, which degrade faster the more you use them. Ammo is also at a premium for some weapons, except the .32 pistol or .32 hunting rifle, both of which as well as .32 ammo is plentiful. My fave wepons so far are the Assault and Chinese Assault rifles, sniper rifle, 10 mm sub machine gun(lots of ammo for that 1) and a scoped .44 magnum. The sheer variety of wepons is impressive. There's all kinds of heavy stuff as well, flamers, miniguns, missile launchers, and PZ there's several different kinds of mines and grenades as well.
You can also repair weapons yourself. All you need to do is find a duplicate gun or 2 lying around and "use " parts fron one to fix the other. The skill points you get after amassing enough experience points(via dicovering new sites and killing enemies) allow you to manipulate your preferred skills. I like lockpicking, and gun repair, although you can acquire computer hacking skills, and many others as well.
I could go on and on, but ill leave it here for now. Long story short, if you want an FC2 substitute to occupy lots of game play hours, until the next FC comes out, get this one. I have founf myself playing for 5 or 6 hour stretches, just like when FC2 was still new to me. 8)
Thanks Ricamundo for the good report on FO3. I'm thinking it's gonna go to the top of my wish list for games. It looks and sounds like it's a great immersion game so it should grab the players' attention.
Yes, cheers, Ricamundo :-X Nice rundown, you've piqued my interest... I'm always on the lookout for something new.
If it distracts you from FC2, it must have something going for it!
there is a 450 pages strategy guide available... excellent read and loads of info... and kills flies with a single blow ;D
Couple of hings, just jotting them down as they occur to me.
Motorbikes, you will find parts near them, maybe brake and tank (been awhile fr me), but when added to a lawnmower rotor blade, you make a flame sword (shishkebab its called I think).
There is DLC called Broken Steel, this raises the level cap, if you have the PC version, there maybe a trainer to do that already.... but may not have the post Lv 20 perks available.
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You meet a girl in a building and do a quest for her, she will give you a great SMG, you can also glitch a dialogue loop with her, so she keeps giving one to you, it can be repaired with normal smg's.
You will meet some Rangers, if ou rescue them, they will give you a choice between some armour and a big gun (forget the name), they are both good, but the gun is more versatile as there are lots of armours.
Theres a bunch of hippies/druids in the north, if you find them, make sure you get Lindens Armour, I forget the quest requirements, but do a search it should be easily findable.
You will find some vampires, if you agree with their leaders principles, you will get a special skill which is pretty cool..... or you could kill the I guess :)
Theres a chick who is a bit bonkers and collects Nuka Quantums, she starts a pretty cool quest. She has a boyfriend with a realy cool shotgun, see were I'm going with this?
If you play a girl character, you get a perk called Ladykiller, which is very good.
The perk, Mysterious Stranger is very underated, he saved my a$$ lots of times on the Broken Steel section, when my team mate was useless.
Charon is a good team mate to get, he has a cool attitude, if you decide to get him, the chick yu need to kill goes outside for a smoke break between 6 and 9pm.
DONT :
Drink Nuka Quantums, hoard them as you can get a perk later to turn them into grenades, they are 4X better than std grenades.
Also dont drink Nukas if you can help it, hoard them as every ten can be made into a quantum.
Dont buy a Nuka machine in the shop, it makes the nuka cold and you cannot make them into quantums then.
Great informative posts Ricamundo and Fiach - makes me want to stop by the store this afternoon and pick the game up = I think I've seen it in various places. :-X
PS: lol @ Art's fly swatter
EDIT: just went to the Fallout web site and there is a graphic character reminiscent of Tintin or one of the Wilhelm Busch characters on the front page ;D
You spend some points on computer hacking. It will some of the later quest a lot easier since you will be able to hack security computers (which is required for one of the quests if I remember correctly) and turn off static defences, unlock doors and such. Also check the FO3 forums hint section for some cheatcodes to enter in the games console.
Spoiler!!!!
There is a place (forgot the name) where if you manage to hack the computers, they will give you clues to where you can find a special chinese assault rifle.
Have been doing a bit of browsing on YouTube and saw a video of the wasteland. Reminded me a bit of the dilapidated landscape in FC2, which I dearly love. There also seems to be other areas where the environment is the same. I'm not too fond of the futuristic regions, but maybe they would grow on me like Wolfenstein did. :-X
Is Fallout 3 based on issued missions like in FC2 and do you have the option of doing them at your own pace? I like being able to wander around in the open world exploring and eventually encounter what I need to accomplish.
almost total freedom to do what you like. If you don't want to follow the storyline (missions) you have hundreds of side missions going. It is just so simple: Walk around, meet someone, and he might have a mission for you. I spent many hours with that game, it is addictive during the first through, and still attractive afterwards. The only downside for me was the fact that enemies don't respawn. Like that, the wasteland turns into an empty and abandoned map. Good is the EDEN kit, you can create mods (I made super extreme weapon upgrades and armour etc) and there are cheats. Both combined can add a lot of fun :)
Sounding better all the time - thanks for the information everyone. Although I like everything about FC2, one of the best features is that you can wander through the world doing what you want, and Fallout sounds similar. The only down side is that you eventually kill everyone without the re-spawn. (Remember how the trolls used to bitterly whine about FC2 re-spawn rate on the other forums, and here we are lamenting the fact that there is no re-spawn in FO3!) ;D
hehe :) Although I have to admit, when I first got the game, those respawning mercs got on my nerves. But I coped with them, later got used to them, then I started to like them... and now it's the engine of the game ;D
Ok, i just finished another lengthy session. Gawd my rear end is getting numb from sitting here. ;D
About the respawn, the baddies will re spawn outside, but not inside, at least thats what ive noticed, so PZ you can wander to your haart's content, shooting every enemy you want, and if you wait a bit(not sure how long) and return, somebody, or something will be there to "greet" you. ;)
Another thing that ive found is that on my travels, ive come across quite a few travelling scavengers, who will sell you ammo, and weapons as well as repair your guns. Although it's kind of hit or miss as to what they can repair and what ammo they have in stock. You can also buy stimkits from them, which are very much like serettes, and a must to have, on the road.
One other thing i didn't talk much about was not only is there this massive world to explore, which you can wander about with NO level changes, but there are also tons of buildings/bases/subway stations/sewers/houses, etc to check out. That's where you see level changes, when you open a door to go inside something.
if any of you are familiar with the Washington DC area, theres lots of familiar landmarks to check out. I just visited something called the Rotunda, and i think i saw the Capitol waay off in the distance.
One thing i should warn anyone not familiar with the game, is that if you enter many of the indoor areas, like subway stations, or large multi story buildings, you will end up feeling a bit like a rat in a maze. At least that's the way i felt, trying to negotiate my way around these places. ???
About the quests, i have found you can have several ( no idea if there's a limit or not) quests ongoing at the same time, and keep track of them all with the HUD, which ive found to be a wonderfully easy gadget to use.
I am not so sure about inside and outside respawns. Well, if you are new in the game, there are LOADS of creatures and people. After a while, though... most of the missions involve killing something, one way or another, which thins out the world population. In the end it means, a place once visited and "cleaned" will remain that way.
So, if you have favourite tracks to walk back and forth on, which you will have once you start dumping the trash you keep collecting, you will walk in an abandoned world. Best place to dump it is your own home, and there is only one (out of two) to stick to, all game long. At least I tried to have all my collected stuff organised in lockers, desks, even the fridge, so I could get it if needed. If you carry too much around with you, you will have a hard time to find what you need :) Oh, and you can overload yourself with stuff, rendering you immoveable until you drop enough weight on the floor ;D
OK, I can't stand it - am going to take a break and see if I can find it in one of my local stores (not well-stocked, they are)
Have fun PZ :-X
Well, I'm now the proud ownner of the Game of the Year Edition - will go home and install it to see how it goes. I'm in the mood for a bit of wasteland-style devastation :-X
have fun, mate :) :-X
oh, a funny tip: try to slip a live handgrenade into the pocket of an unsuspecting victim... ;D
haha, that sounds like fun - installing now...
Gratz PZ! Go get 'em tiger! RAWR!!!! :P
I think the outside respawns have a time factor, maybe 3 days or someting.
There was one house Dun-something or other (Dunwich?), man it scared the crap out of me going through there, if you do find a big tower with a similar name and stuff starts moving on its own, get out of it unless you are 20+, there are critters in there that are vicious, its a great quest btw, but scariest place I have seen in a game yet.
Sounds great, thanks Fiach for the tip! Funny but BestBuy wanted to cheat me on the price - they wanted $49 when on their own web site it is listed for $26. I got them to fix that one (lucky that I asked for a price check first) but to compound the problem, I had also wanted a movie DVD that was listed for $29 on sale for $19. Guess what they wanted to charge me! :D
good you noticed :-X
Cool PZ, im waiting for your first impressions. :-X You will notice that it takes a while to get going, as you have to go thru birth, and growing up, along with that rather tedious 10th birthday party. but that's when you get your Pipboy.
Im still not sure about the respawns. i know that there's a trailer near Big Town that repawns a Mutant brute or 2 every time i happen by, which is every few game days.
Speaking of game days, ive noticed that the days go by alarmingly fast, like a whole day in a couple of hours RT. >:( Kind of annoying when i have to find a bed to sleep until dawn again and again.
Can anyone explain to me the deal with the Citadel? I found it yesterday, and tried talking with the rather arrogant Brotherhood of Steel, or whatever they call themselves. They wouldn't let me in and i couldnt find a way in, anywhere. >:(
You may need to go there as part of the storyline first.
BTW, there is a guy there that will train you so you can wear Power Armour.
I love the post-apocalyptic theme in which you see artifacts from the past such as old cars, planes, tricycles, vending machines, etc. Kind of reminds me of a Twilight Zone experience. This is the first game that I've played that is RPG (role playing)? You talk with different individuals and the outcome of the conversation changes the destiny of the game. Great fun so far interacting with the residents of Megaton, and have killed a slick operator named Buddy because he killed Sheriff Simms. I can see where you could spend countless hours interacting with the characters in the game. So far, so good! :-X
yeah, a good RPG combined with elements of a FPS is worth something, isn't it :) I spent at least 100 hours playing FO3 ;D
I know it is early, but I think you should take a look at Mass Effect sometimes (Sci-Fi, ok, but again, Role Playing + Shooter) :)
Knights of the Old Republic is an ace RPG, there is a droid you can get called HK47, he was an assassin, just listening to him talk is worth buying the game for.
I dont like the Star Wars movies, but I loved this game, you can pause the action if its getting a bit hectic, issue your commands, unpause and let rip.
It's pretty similar to Mass Effect as they use similar artwork, I reckon its a better game personally, but they are both top notch.
Welcome to the world of RP mate :)
Thanks for the tips guys - on an FO3 note, do you know how to sell things? I'm so bogged down with items that I've found, I can't run any more.
Go to a vendor in Megaton for instance (craterside supply) and talk to the owner. One of the chatalternaives should be "Let me seee what you have" or something like that. You will be presented with a 2 sided list with your stuff on the left, just klick on the stuff you want to sell and them accept the deal. It´s the same for buying stuff only reverse :)
or dump it somewhere, travel home, dump most of what you got, then get back and collect your leftovers, hehe... I kept bringing stuff home every once in a while, oh and I abused the bin at the ladies' washing room in Megaton as a container LOL
Too bad Simms is dead. Because i did a task for him i got a nice reward. I actually killed that shady character in the bar to protect Simm's back.
I have a question for you FO3 vets. is there a flashlight in the game? Because i could sure use one.
I think there is... easiest way to find out is check your controller setup (keymapping) - many games I know have more functions than are bound to keys, rendering them useless until you actively bind them :)
yes the Pipboy has a flashlight function.
Well, I've managed to play a few hours and like the role playing as a change of pace from the shooters. In fact, I was lamenting the fact that FC2 did not have some of the role playing aspects coded into it.
Traveling the waste land is quite an adventure - the super mutants you meet often carry super weapons that really come in handy at times. Kind of funny - I once beat a super mutant with a mini-gun into submission with a tire iron. The raiders are punk kids with outlandish attitudes, and I must admit a great sense of satisfaction off-ing them and taking all of their belongings, including their clothes. They look rather funny lying on the ground in nothing but their undies.
I did not realize that the old junk cars would explode with mini mushroom clouds - will need to play with that for a while. One interesting aspect is that if you find a place where there are significant foes, there will likely be something to pick up - search around and you can find some real gems.
I'm currently in the Super-mart grocery store and have managed to kill all of the punk kids infesting the store. Have picked up all of their body armor, weapons and such, but am now too heavy to run - oh well, dump some of the things for now. I still have a mission to deliver a note from Lucy to her family in another town, but when I went there, her parents had been murdered. I found out from the local sheriff that her brother Ian was still alive, but I have no idea where to find him - that quest is on hold for a while.
All summed up, I like the game quite a bit, especially the waste land aspect of it. I enjoy the post-apocalyptic environment where I can see old cars, lots of rust, old billboards, etc. Good game, one of the better ones I've played in a while.
After playing with this one, I sure would like a version of something like this with the FC2 world and it's characters. :-X
One of my favourite pastimes was to blow up cars and bikes, especially at night (better light show). They tend to chain-reactions, so be careful and have fun blowing up entire streets with one shot ;D
Oh PZ, there are cheats out there for FO3, you can carry as much as you want...
lol, I completely forgot about the cheats and trainers - thanks for the reminder (man I'm getting old...) :D
just created a cheats topic for FO3 (http://openworldgames.org/owg/forums/index.php?topic=1127.msg16572#msg16572) ;D
That girls letter, if you look near where her parents lived there should be a metro station.
No Spoilers here.
One of the guys in the village should have some quest IIRC about livestock being killed, so that is important here.
Go to the metro and you should see a couple of zombie drug dealers, they will give you a quest if you want it. In an office at the back, there should be a manhole where you can explore.
Anyway, you need to find a bunch of people holed up in the underground metro area, I think there maybe some traps on the way so keep an eye on the ground.
When you meet the people and talk to their leader you can progress the story from there.
It depends on your skillset, I had high hacking skill, so I did some hacking, its basically down to playstyle how you handle this area really.
I havent looked at the cheats section, but I would make an observation about FO3, its a VERY easy game and IMO, you should explore it witout cheats, I would suggest if you want to use cheats/trainers, start a new game file and use that, and keep a "straight" save file for the game proper. Just my opinion, but its a well balanced game, with some awesome content, that maybe diluted if you dont play it as the dev's intended.
Glad you're enjoying the game PZ. It's fun isn't it? ;D About the girl'd brother, look in the subway station in that area.
When you get weighted down with stuff, quick travel to Megaton, and sell it to the chatterbox in Craterside Supply. She can also sell you stuff, and repair some of your weapons/ammo. You can also repair your stuff yourself, if you have at least 1 duplicate of the thing you want to repair.
one more thing, while you're in the Super Mart, take note of the supply of rare Nuka Cola Quantum, because there's a quest to collect 30 bottles of the stuff. if you find some, don't drink it, save it.
I still see no flashlight anywhere in my Pipboy, or in keyboard mapping, dang it. :-\
Thats weird, think it was B on the 360, try holding TAB.
Thanks for the tips - spoilers welcome whenever you want to do so! ;)
Good idea about the different saves - will do so. I'm usually the impatient sort so I tend to miss much in the games I play - that's probably why I need to play through several times ;D
hehehehehe ;D nice
No spoilers for FO3 mate, half the enjoyment of that game is wondering wth is going to happen next, as you are exploring, there are some really bizarre encounters :)
BTW, there is an enemy called Mirkluls or something lke that, shoot them in the Eye when its uncovered, save you a lot of grief, there, thats a handy spoiler for ya :)
Quote from: Art Blade on October 26, 2009, 09:13:11 AM
One of my favourite pastimes was to blow up cars and bikes, especially at night (better light show)
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;D ;D ;D
Hehe, i should remember to shoot the car beside the damn Mute, instead of the Mute. More fun, er as long as im well back. 8)
those mutes can't tell you to stop it, anyway, can they :)
Speaking of cars and bikes - has anyone managed to ride the bike?
(great screenie by the way)
Never tried to, not going to install that mod.
(cheers :) )
I looked at the video, and i'll pass.It looks kinda corny. Perhaps the kids out there will like it.
I just had to post this quote out of the introductory documentation in the FO3 manual because it accurately describes the spirit of the game.
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...Now, here's the good news. When that giant vault door slides open and you're thrust into the harsh sunlight of the Capital Wasteland, you're completely free to make your own destiny. Follow after dear old Dad... or forget he even exists. Head straight into the ramshackle town of Megaton, and meet its eclectic inhabitants... or shoot first and exchange pleasantries later.
That's really the most important thing to remember about Fallout 3 - it's your game, so play it the way you want. There is no "right" way to play. There are many paths to success, and yes, the game does eventually "end". But how it ends is up to you, and the character you play.
Doesn't that embody the spirit of open world games?
truly :) :-X
Just had a look at the latest screenshots I posted, regarding mods that change the grey environment into a "green world" with cleaned air (fellout), and thinking about that I like to show that dog and my funny looking companion (my mod version of Charon, looks like George Washington a bit, like PZ stated). Then I thought, actually, this is what FC2 could have been like. A buddy that walks around with you and together you fight... <sigh> but at least we have two worlds. FO3 and FC2, each one has its pros and cons. However, it shows there are ways of doing this and that, so there should be a way to stick both ideas ("worlds") into one game. :)
Same thoughts here - quite often as I was roaming through the FO3 world I thought that these elements would have made a spectacular FC2. Combine the beauty of the FC2 graphics and FPS elements into FO3 and you'd truly have a winner. Imagine:
- civilians wandering Bowa and Leboa - and being able to speak with them if you choose
- being able to recruit people you meet into being your companion (how about having a friend man that GL in your AT)
- having an outcome of the game that is based on how you play the game rather than a scripted ending
- experiencing hostility of the mercs at guard posts only if you are hostile to them first
- add a silencer to that Dragunov or AS50 ;D
- being able to create new maps and new missions for others to enjoy.
The list keeps growing in my mind every time I play FO3 :-X
Agree totally. PZ. 8) There's so many great things about both games, it's hard to know where to start. I keep theinking about how amazing FC2 looks compared to the vanilla version of FO3, but FO3 has all these cool missions, not to mention all the stuff out there to collect, buy, sell, use. FO3 is FC2's ugly step-sister who's "easy". ;D
One thing that keep crossing my mind, as i near the end of this FO3 playthru(pretty much only the tail end of the MQ, then i hope Broken Steel) I remember a post in the Bethesda forums way back(i've been reading thru posts from last year into spring '09) The poster said he couldnt remember any other experience in gaming that matched the feeling of being alone and virtually helpless, as he emerged from Vault 101 for the first time. He said, it would never be the same after that. I vividly remember coming out of there into darkness, armed with only a baton and a BB gun. Pretty overwhelming stuff! :-X
Quote from: Ricamundo on November 18, 2009, 03:22:37 AM
... FO3 is FC2's ugly step-sister who's "easy". ;D
...The poster said he couldnt remember any other experience in gaming that matched the feeling of being alone and virtually helpless, as he emerged from Vault 101 for the first time. He said, it would never be the same after that. I vividly remember coming out of there into darkness, armed with only a baton and a BB gun. Pretty overwhelming stuff! :-X
That's well said - the vanilla version of the game really is the ugly step-sister of FC2 - although a visually modded FO3 is tons better than the stock version.
I too felt quite helpless with a BB gun - have to laugh about it now - going out into a mutant-infested wasteland with a BB gun! ;D
Hehe, I too felt a panic attack coming on strong when I was purged from the safety of vault 101. Even more so as for some reason I couldn't find Megaton and instead visited that Raider-infested school compound ;D
Why didn´t you grab some of the securityguards psitols on the way out from vault 101? And there armor and helmets? ;)
Oh I did ;D And in the vault, I beat the living crap out of one of the SnakeTunnelRats or what that gang was called, just couldn't stand how they treated that girl ;D
Quote from: deadman on November 18, 2009, 12:33:57 PM
Why didn´t you grab some of the securityguards psitols on the way out from vault 101? And there armor and helmets? ;)
I just ran away when I got the chance just like a little girl ;)
Heh, this playthrough I chose to use a female character. Was quite funny, how the little girl (me) beat the crap out of a TunnelSnake until blood droplets splashed across my screen :-* ;D By the way, I like it to punch someone out. Just un-equip your weapon and draw your fists, then "shoot" a punch ;D
<sigh> it IS a huge world to explore. :)
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I enjoy using the power fist - looks cool and packs quite the punch.
PS: dogmeat looks less like a pig today! ;D
good dogmeat, hehehehe ;D I like the .32 pistol for a change, and spiked knuckles ;D
@Ricamundo, almost my thoughts exactly on the game. I'm wandering about with near 400 caps but feel like gutting Moraity cuz he keeps upping the info cap count. I should teleport him into FC2 so I can cap him with the machete lol. Yes all, it is a very great game and I'm havin loads of fun. I shouldn't be allowed to have this much gaming fun.
why... you'd probably be gaming, anyway ;D
Glad that you're enjoying the game Gord - looking forward to some of your impressions and stories :-X
PZ I will try and do some small walkthrus when I get back home. I may have to restart the game as I will not be able to save the game I'm playing here in Texas, unless someone knows how to save data from the PS3. I'll ask my son-in-law but since today is my last full day (Sat) I'll be hard-pressed to find and solution. We're attending my granddaughters ballet of the Nutcracker in which she's the mouse that gets shot by a cannon. She's 7 and is very bright. I gotta see this one.
Here ya go :)
http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&thread.id=4187853
a USB drive... sounds so simple :)
Great one Fiach - this also means that we could upload zipped PS3 saved games for any game.
Looking forward to your experiences Gord - I'm playing on PC, heavily modded, but absolutely love the game :-X
Gord, if there's any chance you could get FO3 for the PC, i mean i know it's still pricey up here, i highly recommend it, as the mods available can totally update and improve on the original. 8)
I can echo that - FO3 on the PC is orders of magnitude more fun than playing the plain vanilla version, at least for me. This is entirely due to the mods that you can add that adds new quests, lands, NPCs, etc.
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NPC = non-player character(s) as in "other people" (or monsters etc) in the game
Well fellow FO3 friends, after playing with mods for the past couple of weeks, I've found what I like best and have actually started playing the game for real. I must say that it is an entirely different experience from what I had with the plain vanilla version of the game - loads of fun, and tailored to my liking.
The story is quite immersive, and it is a good idea to have a descent memory because the story line is quite detailed. I'm still enjoying this game plus Assassin's Creed2 on most days.
Quote from: PZ on December 06, 2009, 05:46:51 PMit is a good idea to have a descent memory because the story line is quite detailed.
Do you mean it's better to forget everything so the experience lasts longer?
lol, sorry ;D
haha, now that you mention it! ;D
Any recommendations on the Lands or Quest mods? I've been keeping busy with just exploring the map, anf grabbing loot, then delivering Fingers, Quantums, Scrap metal, and pre-War books for caps, but avoiding the MQ, or the DLC's for now.
BTW thx for the help with that gun mod, but ive decided not to bother trying to make it w@&k as ive already got a locker jammed with weapons im not using, as i prefer to travel light so i can carry more loot. My must have weapons are the .50 Cal sniper, Art's 2 .44's, Gatling Laser, Flamer, M79 GL, and Big Boom.
Yesterday, Charon and I liberated the slaves @ Evergreen Mills, and cleared out the Talon Mercs @ Fort Constantine, and guess who showed up, but Dogmeat...again! Still evil, and still impossible to kill, so we had to fast travel outta there. I don't know who is more annoying; Dogmeat, or that Megaton resident (Black female) who keep stalking me, and thanking me for not blowing up Megaton, and saying, "we got together and got you this.." a stimpak, a few caps, a Rad away, etc. Argh! I use Megaton as my main base, since there's 2 arms dealers to sell my junk to, so im in there a lot, and now im peeking around corners to see if that damn woman is near. >:(
Although I've briefly explored lands and quests, I've not spent too much time with them, but Rockville is one that looks promising - it has sounds, nes NPCs, quests, etc. There is another one called Shady Sands but it seems to conflict with other mods in some cases. If you do any of them, I'd recommend continuing with FO3Edit and applying a filter to see conflicts and then adjust the load order to avoid them.
Typically a conflict is where a mod provides the same content as the fallout.esm master. Also typically, this is what you want to happen because the mod is supplying content that you want to replace in the plain vanilla game. Problems arise however if there are fatal conflicts which result in crashes.
I too find that woman extremely annoying, and have been tempted to kill her or perhaps recruit her with the companions mod.
Thx for the info PZ, but i already have Rockville Commons. It is a fun one btw. I was in the Arlington Cemetary today with Charon, and Dogmeat showed up again! man what a stupid bug. Now i wish we hadn't gone near that scrapyard, because he's been following us ever since. I also cleared out Mama Dolce's, which i couldn't find my first playthru, so 2 totally new to me areas today, sweet. 8)
ArtMod -- dogmeat/Charon -- sibling rivalries
What I don't understand is when exactly dogmeat behaves strangely. I've only encountered that behaviour once, for some reason, when I sent him to vault 101, he got mad at Charon.
The solution for that would be to tell dogmeat to wait rather than to go to vault 101. Or, tell charon to wait, walk away with dogmeat a bit, then send dogmeat to 101, go back and pick up charon.
If that dog is left alone waiting too long, he'll eventually walk back to 101 on his own. Once there, you shouldn't have any difficulty with him. In case you do, or in case you expect to, tell charon to wait somewhere near 101, pick up dogmeat, and return to charon, tell him to follow, too. Like that, you cannot have difficulties.
Interestingly, I managed to "complete" the game after just a couple of hours - I did the "Following in his footsteps" mission which takes me down the path that my father took, and before I knew it, I was ending the game!
I had not completed hardly any of the other quests, so this was a complete surprise to me. Oh well, now I get to start an earlier save and go again on all the quests that I did not do the first time around.
Yeah, I saw alot of people complain about FO3 being short, they didnt realise the talking to people gave you side quests and reasons to explore the map.
Some games I think instead of reading the instruction manuals, some players just go to gamefaqs, look at the list of achievements and how to obtain them and just play from that premise.
On saying that I seldom read instruction manuals, I think its because I remember the days, when the manuals were as important as the games and were great meaty tomes, compared to the current crop of 2-3 pages ala CoD. But they were actually worth reading, where apart from the control system, they provided more depth and immersion for the game too.
Well add another to the list of "Hooked On". I was not able to save the game from Texas and I've started anew. That's ok as I'm getting much info on here that I did not have before. I still play the whole area. This second time out I'm able to bring some of the knowledge that others have posted and feel I will achieve more as well as my character staying healthier and with more ammo. A couple of times I was down to the sledge as a weapon. Well at least my batting practice from Vault 101 comes in handy. As the game progresses I should be able to complete a mission or two with less problems. Oh hell, that's what makes the game great..problems and problems and enemies galore. I wish my desk top could be upgrades so I could do some screen shots. Another Christmas wish I guess.
Enjoy it Gord, and let us know how it goes - I actually blasted through the game a bit too fast because I followed my father's trail - now I'm back in doing lots of side things and just basically exploring the countryside.
Hey Gord, welcome back to god's country. ;) How are ya doing, re earning caps? Don't underestimate the value of all the junk lying around out there. even booze, ciggies, and chems bring in a healthy return when you add em up, then, you can see Moira, or any wandering scavenger in the wastes, and sell a few things for caps, or trade for a better weapon. When you Level Up, concentrate your skill points in Repair, Lockpick, and Medecine, with Barter and small guns up there too. The perks can also help your skills.
Once your repair skill is up a bit, grab at least 2 copies of the same weapon, and in your Pipboy, press "R". You get a better more reliable weapon, and you're carrying less weight, which is critcal when you're trying to scaveng e.
@ Level 27, ive earned 55,000 caps. ;D Im going for a 100,000 this playthru, and i see little problem in reaching it, since i still have many un discovered locations, as well as the DLC stuff.
Quote from: Fiach on December 08, 2009, 01:57:04 AM
Yeah, I saw alot of people complain about FO3 being short, they didnt realise the talking to people gave you side quests and reasons to explore the map...
That's too bad really, because I'd done some of the other things on many different partial plays through as I was developing my list of favorite mods. There is a huge amount of content, but because it is so open ended, you can choose a path on which you travel the fast path to the ending, not even realizing that you've missed most of the game's potential. I'm sure that I'll play through lots of times to get all of it done, and I've not even started any of the DLC yet.
Well i did the Operation Anchorage DLC today. it's fairly short, say 3 or 4 hours, and lots of fun. 8) it's a sim within a sim, kinda like the one where you have to entewr a chamber to rescue your Father, but this one pits the good ole u S of A agin those narsty Chinese. Quite linear in feel, similar to Mothership Zeta in that when a baddie dies, he and his weapon vapourize. Health and ammo are taken care of the MP way with stations located here and there. OA has some nice classic corridor shooter thrown in too. Good fun.
[smg id=1780][smg id=1779] I was up near the robot factory, when this large group of travellers walked by. I'd never seen so mnay at once. It had to be 20-30. Shame it was so dark, so you really cant see just how many were there.
Nice :) Merchandise on two legs -- shoot them, count them, loot them ;D
Quote from: Art Blade on December 12, 2009, 02:49:09 PM
Nice :) Merchandise on two legs -- shoot them, count them, loot them ;D
Meh, i've looted dead travellers before, not killed by me, and they usually don't have much, although there was this scavenger near Rockville Commons, killed by a deathclaw, i think, who had all kinds of goodies. 8) One benefit of one of my installed mods(Respawn6Hours) is that i can kill a bunch of Mutes, and loot the bodies, go and sleep for 7 hrs, in a nearby shed, then come out and kill em all again, and get another set of guns n ammo. Nice. 8)
It's hard to find enough gun dealers and scavengers that have enough caps to buy all my loot tho. Most of em have less than 300 caps at any one time, except for good old George, the dealer in the Expanded Megaton mod, who often has 900 or so. I think im pretty close to 75,000 caps now, and no i didnt use a cap cheat. ;D
I have to snicker a bit when I think of all the whiners on the Ubi forum that complained about FC2 re-spawn rate - here we are playing FO3 and we install mods to purposefully increase the re-spawn ;D
I use the 6 hour re-spawn rate myself because when I don't have it, the world suddenly becomes a lonely place.
I use it, too :)
I can't believe that people whined about the respawning in FC2 - would they rather rattle around in an empty, boring world with no enemies to fight with? Not me, I like my action ;D
Personally I'm glad that I finished the Fire Ant mission and killed the queen and the Dr. I like entering different places and just having to off the other mutants. By the way I had used up most of my ammo and finished her off by using a weapon called the Ripper that I had found by entering the subways somewhere near Arlington. It's like a hand held chain-saw but no need to worry about replenishing energy. It must run on Energizers lol. Any I've nearly a thousand caps and met Moira and undertaken the mine missions, when I'm not off in some weird other place.
I'd like to publish a rough story but I'm getting intimidated by the fast changes being made here. I'll keep re-reading how and maybe one day get a story written. Geez this is more fun than a person shopuld be able to enjoy.
don't worry about fast changes here. If you are referring to articles and MemberSpace, you can try that or, if it suits you more, keep doing what you liked to do. Just write a topic or post, and no harm done. We all enjoy your stories, no matter where you post them :)
At least as long as we haven't figured out how to inflict physical punishment for disobedience and disorderly posts. ;D
I wholeheartedly agree - go ahead and post your stories Gord, if you'd like to - personally, I enjoy reading about your experiences because it usually gives me ideas, just like with the FC2 stories.
Absolutely, Gord, just tell us a tale right here. Im really interested to hear them. 8) BTW, what level are you atm? There are some tips posted about where to place those points, that will help you a lot in the game.
Still hooked on FO3...
I visit the nexus site nearly every day and find interesting mods to try, which keeps the game new and fresh - particularly now that I kind of know how to arrange the mods so that nothing interferes. For instance, near the Super Duper Mart, there is a freeway overpass that is partially collapsed - nothing remarkable about that area, but someone modified that cell to include a player house that partially serves as a sniper platform - you can now go to that area and have a completely different experience when attacking the Super Duper Mart.
Having the ability to add modifications like this really makes me lament the fact that Ubi never released a software development kit for Far Cry 2 - I imagine having the ability to create new single player maps, add vehicles, buildings, create new missions, characters, etc - I'd probably never stop playing the game ;)
Ricamundo..I noticed recently that I was at over 7k of data..if that means anything. Recently I've been busy just wandering around looking for Bobbleheads and Keller tapes. I'm more than 150 hrs playtime and I find I can't wait to get back into the game. I'm glad I'm retired cuz otherwise I'd hafta pull seniority on my son who is deeply into (and enjoying) Uncharted 2. >:(
By the way how does one get into the bunker (Col Autumn) area? Is it only accessible by one of the later quests or can you get in just wandering about.
By the way nukcola greanades are great against a group of Super Mutants but especially against those vile Centaurs. :D :D :D
Also I'm wandering about trying to get bobby pins. It's too bad the devos didn't set up the player to be able to make these. After all, there's quite a lot of scrap metal out there. I'm still have large, clumsy fingers when trying to pick the locks and there is lotsa stuff I'm trying to get. :D :D :D
As for a story I'm gonna do a brief synopsis of my quest for Moira. She is a character that I can really do a story about. Please be patient as I gotta go back over my randomly written notes. This reminds me of school..Essay WTF do I hafta do an essay? lol :) :) ;D
Glad you're enjoying it so much :) Don't worry about your essay (hehe, the word alone reminds me of school, too, and the phrase "brief summary" lol) take your time.
Not sure about that bunker, sounds like the endgame thing.
Hi Gord. If i understand, you're at a Fort(Constantine maybe?) and found the CO's office with a secret underground area that's locked and you have no key? If so you get the key from 3Dog, the Galaxy News Radio DJ in D.C.
His, is a pretty straightforward quest. He will ask you to travel to the Museum of Technology and grab the satelitte dish of the spacecraft on display and take it to the Washington Monument and install it up top, so the GNR signal can be heard everywhere in the wastes. He then gives you that key.
I just wrapped up my 2nd playthru a couple of days ago. I ended up with around 190,000 caps, and i still had a locker full of guns in my Meg house. 20 or so perfect assualt rifles, same # of Chinese assualt rifles, and many many laser/plasma guns, as well as spare miniguns and flamers, etc. But it's hard to sell off many of these weapons, when most merchants, at best, have 300-400 caps max, per visit.
I've just started another playthru of FC2, so i'll leave FO3 aside for a few weeks.
Thanks for that info Ricamundo. I was just thinking of starting that quest ( I had met 3 Dog when playing in Texas but had to restart here. Yep, that's the spot. I have just finished serving lead sandwiches to the boys at the Lincoln Memorial and now have to find those escaped slaves. The two will be worked on. Today I just found my hidey-hole that's in the bunker of the National Guard. I'll have some goodies left there in case I need them later.
Quote from: retiredgord on January 24, 2010, 06:42:25 PM
Thanks for that info Ricamundo. I was just thinking of starting that quest ( I had met 3 Dog when playing in Texas but had to restart here. Yep, that's the spot. I have just finished serving lead sandwiches to the boys at the Lincoln Memorial and now have to find those escaped slaves. The two will be worked on. Today I just found my hidey-hole that's in the bunker of the National Guard. I'll have some goodies left there in case I need them later.
Ah yes, i know the quest. There are a number of artifacts related to Lincoln in the Museum of History that you will need to find for those escaped slaves, once you find em. I know their location, but i cant remember the name of it, but perhaps you wouldnt want me telling you anyway. ;)
When on that quest, keep a lookout for other historically important artifacts that you may find, as the old guy in the Rivet City museum will pay you for. He also will give you a quest, if i remember.
Oh hell..I sold the artifacts to the old guy at Rivet City. I wonder if that will present a problem with the slave issue?
As far as I remember the slave mission, the artifacts only had kind of a visual meaning (exhibits) but don't keep you from finishing.
Oh, sorry, Gord, i've mislead ya. ;) The artifact im thinking of for the Slave quest is a drawing of the Lincoln memorial showing it intact with the head attached. The stonecutter guy needs it. The other Lincoln related items can be kept, or sold to the slave leader, or the Rivet City curator.
There are other historically significant items you might come across, such as the Declaration Of Independence that you need to take to Rivet City.
Speaking of slave missions, I installed the slavery overhaul mod and am having great fun with it. You get to use a dart gun, (and another modder has created a BB slaver gun) to stun humanoids (like raiders).
Starting the game with this mod, I went into the Super Duper market where I knew I'd find a few raiders - shot one with my BB slaver gun which stunned them so that I could enter talk mode - quickly snap a collar around their necks and voila, you have a new slave that does your bidding. You can use them as a mule, and follow you around, or go to the slaver market and have the guy keep them in one of his jail cells. This overhaul adds an entirely new dimension to the game.
Oh, I nearly forgot - I went into Moriarity's saloon and enslaved Mr. Burke - he now sits on his stool and waits for my instructions - naturally I liberated his trinkets, and if he doesn't behave, he gets to sit there in his underwear. ;D
Excellent, PZ ;D ;D ;D :-X
Thanks again Ricamundo. I found the slaves but as you said the drawing is another quest I get to do. I checked the Museum of History but could not find it there and I don't think it was with the artifacts I sold to Washington in Rivet City. Hmmm, I'm wondering where it could be. (Hint Hint) I don't consider these as spoilers but info trades. lol . Those Behemoths are fun to battle. I manged to soften up the one near GNR with the Alien Blaster and then finish it with the regular laser. The one in the Congressional Hall I softened with about 7 missiles then finished with the laser rifle. Oh by the way even tho' I'm still a little clumsy with the lockpicking, I've got a strategy and some markings I use. I save just before trying and then w@&k my way thru. If I don't get the lock open I re-load and try again. I'm down to just 2 pins per lock at the most and have found about 17 so I'm good for a while.
Nice one PZ! ;D OK, Gord, the drawing is in the Museum Of History, but you must visit with the slaves, and get the quest first, or you wont see the drawing. Once you have the quest, go to the Museum Of History, and go into the offices, not Underworld where the Ghouls live.
If i remember, it's on a wall, at the top of a staircase in a large open area with lots of desks, and bookcases lining the walls. While you're in there, look for Lincoln's hat, repeater rifle, and a recording of Lincoln's voice.
Dang it! While I was visiting Moriarity's, the Sheriff came into the bar and began to accost Mr. Burke who was sitting peacefully at the bar having a drink. The Sheriff angrily accused Mr. Burke of something and they both stepped outside, and when I followed, Mr. Burke killed him!
Unfortunately, I'd not had the chance to do the disarm the bomb mission - oh well, load a prior save >:(
It was a strange occurrence for me though, I've never witnessed the Sheriff doing that before.
Whoa! I've never witnessed anything involving the Sheriff, let alone getting him killed! :o
I'm wondering if this had anything to do with the slavery overhaul - because Mr. Burke was my slave, I instructed him to stay in the bar. On prior occasions starting the game, he left the bar and never stayed too long. Now he's a regular bar fly. Perhaps that irritated the Sheriff - the animation of the interaction between the two in the bar was priceless. The Sheriff standing there yelling >:( and Mr. Burke sitting in complete innocence ::)
That is bizarre! One of the early quests for me is always to disarm that nuke so i get my Meg house, which is always my main base, even tho i have 2 other homes in that area from installed mods.
I've not yet destroyed Megaton - just can't get myself to "off" Moira in Craterside Supply and Nova in Moriarity's. ;D
use a savegame, PZ, and do it. The bomb will please you very much if you trigger it at night... what a display... then revert to your savegame and play on rather innocently ;D
I remember you recommending that method some time ago, but I just haven't gathered up enough courage to do it yet - maybe today! ;D
In the partial playthru I was doing in Texas I didn't have the knowledge of what could happen at any time so I just played it the way I might do it as myself. Well I told the sheriff after I had talked to Burke about Burke's offer. Well the sheriff just upped and ran off to Morairty's and got into an argument. The sheriff was killed and I had to kill Burke. I felt sad going to his house to tell the kid his dad was dead. Actually I just went to see if I could score the house and make it mine.
This time I just heard Burke's offer and killed him then. However I'm finding my name on the hitmens' contracts that were put on me by Tenpenny. I got there eventually and offed him and got the suite so I'm ok with the jerks that pop up every now and then trying to kill me. They go to Hell empty handed
Hehe, I was shocked the first time I looted one of those mercs who had a hit contract in his pockets with my name on it (like WTH! someone hacked my PC!) :D ;D