Seems like Déjà vu all over again, here we are another game that's forcing me to use U-Play and I've got problems with it, so what else is new?
As Art knows, I (tried to) install FC4 this morning. The best part of that experience was chatting with Art in the U-Play chat thingy. Everything else? Well, here's the rant. Not quite as long as the one for FC3, but still....
I pop in the first disc, and it copies, pop in the second disc and it copies, third disc the same. U-Play comes up and I put in my activation code. It gives me the usual, "Are you sure you want to register this game on this account?" deal and such and such. So I go ahead and hit the submit button.
"An error has occurred with U-Play service, please try again later"
:D :D :D :D
OK, so I wait a few minutes and hit the button again.
"An error has occurred with U-Play service, please try again later"
>:(( >:(( >:(( >:((
Cancel and close U-Play. Re-open the stupid thing, and see the game icon in the games list, so I click on it. Brings up the activation box again, and I put in the code.
"This code has already been registered with this account"
:'( :'( :'( :'(
Close that dialog and try clicking the game icon again. Activation key dialog comes up again, type in the code which I've now memorized because I've typed it in so many times, and again:
"This code has already been registered with this account"
:( :-( :( :-( (I'm running out of sad face smilies)
Close U-Play again and wait a few minutes and run it again, click the game icon and it brings up the game launcher, YAY!
Not so fast.
"Far Cry 4 will now search for updates"
I figured this would happen, and was ready to let it run a bit, then it comes up that there are over 3GB of "updates" to download. That would take 35 hours on my connection and eat of the rest of this month's bandwidth allotment and a good chunk of next month's. So that ain't happening.
I go to lunch and think on it. What I usually do with Steam games is download it at w@&k, and use the Steam backup to create a save file, bring that home and restore there, easy as pie. Of course, U-Play, being the complete hunk of turd that it is, has no backup and restore function, so I'm stuck looking at forums to find a solution. Apparently, some people have had success downloading on another computer and copying over the files, doing some shenanigans with folders and registry settings, etc.......
My only other option is to lug my computer into w@&k and run the update from there. Not easy with the monster that it is.
So, no Far Cry 4 for me this weekend, maybe sometime this week....
I didn't expect that to happen when I had that nice little chat with D_B.. :(
Far crying out loud, that really is a tad too much.
Incredible how U-play succeeds in giving all of us massive frustration before we can play their games. :-\\ Hope you find a way to get the bloody updates D_B!! ;)
Dang, that's a shame, D_B - hope you get it sorted soon
Hope you do find a way D_B, as I posted elsewhere, I have a 4 GB uncapped broadband and UPlay's little update took about 6 hours ???
Well, I've got it installed here at w@&k, and it's downloading the "patch". I really think games these days, when you buy physical media, just leave off the last disc and make you download it. When I installed the new Wolfenstein game, it was on 4 or 5 discs, and still needed to download 10GB after that was all done.
I hear it's worse on consoles, one guy was saying in a video when he installed a game, that it then proceeded to download 40GB!!!!! of data. He mentioned that the disc must contain the unlock code and nothing else.
yep, happened to me once, before I started to use steam "seriously." I bought a retail version on DVD, slapped that disc into my drive, and it basically only contained the redeem code -- I had to go online, activate and download the whole fucking game.
It is truly a pain in the arse. When you buy something you expect to have a whole product, not just a package with a few parts inside and many others you need to have delivered to your house! :D
It's like buying a car but having the steering wheel delivered to you in 3-5 business days. >:((
One good side of purchasing only STEAM games is that the file I download is, or should be, with all patches and fixes available at the time so when I'm downloading a new game it will download it all at once. It just happened to me this weekend, I bought Black Flag and STEAM downloaded 22.1GB of data at once. I clicked on the "play game" icon, it took 5 minutes to "prepare for first launch", Uplay verified my code and I started playing the game, no further delaying. On the other hand I am forced to have Uplay just like anybody else but I don't have a physical copy of the game - I can make a back up of the game files but I never tried to do it and then trying to install on another PC to see how it works. I assume, since it is a software I purchased, I can install it as I will provided I'm not selling or copying to third parties but I am one hundred percent sure I would have a bad time trying to pull it off if I ever tried to do it. Besides, with 55 games on STEAM I would lose several months doing so.
Hope you have it sorted now D_B and can have some fun with FC4 back home! :-X
Well, the first attempt to copy from the machine at w@&k to the machine at home was a bust. I had to use two 32 GB thumb drives to get all the files on, and had to split a couple into smaller portions to w@&k on the FAT32 files system that the thumb drives use. Once I got everything put back together on the home machine, Uplay still had issues, said there were 300MB of files that were needed, so I let it update, but it failed almost immediately. Upon trying again, it was back to the 3GB download so I gave up for the night. Now I'm trying a copy directly to a SSD drive that I had around, and will see if that works. If not, I'm going to take out the drive that the game is installed on my home machine and bring it into w@&k and try directly updating on that drive, then bring it home. I don't really want to do that, but it beats lugging the entire computer into w@&k.
???
Outrageous what you have to go through, and think of all the poor schmucks that don't have your computer skills!
Indeed. And think of the waste of time; if you'd had that time paid by your company, it would've compensated for the game's price. In other words... 8-X
damn, D_B, that sucks. I sure hope that you'll get it sorted without having to drag your machine to the office..
Geez D_B, sorry to read about what you've had go through. What a major hassle :D Bloody Ubi. They seem to assume everybody has a whizzy connection and endless amounts of DL allocation. If I was still with my old ISP and I'd read this before buying the game I would have said forget it - by the time I'd get the game happening FC5 would be out ????
I really hate all this online rego, activation and patching business nowadays. Back in the days of yore when there was no internet to speak of, or at least not the way we know it today, game makers would have to get everything working properly and squared away before release. You'd buy the game, take it home, install it, type in the rego code and away you went. I know the devs are concerned about piracy and that's understandable, but why does everybody have to suffer for it these days? And it hasn't done a lot to stop piracy in any case - it's reduced it a bit and made it less easy, but hasn't stopped it.
They do all this "buy now, patch later" crap and force people to DL entire games because they can get away with doing that now.
True - the only people that suffer are the honest ones because there isn't a game that has ever been created that can't be cracked.
The gaming industry reminds me of the legal system (can't really call it the just system because there is so little justice) - the people that it benefits most is the criminal.
There's a massive online cracked game "retailer" here who can sell you any game you want within a month after official release. They been in operation for at least 15 years, even advertising in some newspapers. Farcry 4 cost me ZAR600.00 the legal way (with all the Uplay s#!t). The same game (cracked so you don't need Uplay) can be ordered online and be collected within 48 hours from your nearest Post Office for a mere ZAR150.00 including delivery :o
So much for online security ::)
Same here in Brazil. Only here they sell pirate games and software out in the streets in plain sight Mondays to Saturdays, working hours! ??? ???? ::)
You can buy pretty much any game for 25% of the price, all cracked, so you don't need any online activation crap.
One of these days all this online crap is going to bite the publishers in the a$$ because it will cause otherwise honest people wanting to pay a fair price to go to the dark side in anger just to "stick it" to the publisher. After all, if the game publishers don't care about the gamer, then why is the gamer caring about the publisher.
Thanks for the sympathies, guys.
Tried again last night with a full copy off the SSD I brought to w@&k and it still thinks it needs an update. I'm thinking there are some settings in the Uplay install folder that I need to copy over as well, so I'm taking that folder home tonight on the thumb drive, and we'll see how it goes.
good luck, then, D_B :)
Hope it works D_B ::)
ditto :-X
I admire your persistence D_B :) :-X
Yep, got it working. Copied the entire Uplay folder onto a thumb drive and brought it home. Did the one-of-these-things-is-not-like-the-other game with Winmerge to help and compared the files. Uplay stores the info in folder with number assigned to each game. FC4 is 420, go figure. There's a manifest file that I presume stores the install progress of the game and is what Uplay uses to decide if you need to update or not. The actual game files you have installed are ignored from what I can tell. So, I copied over that manifest file, deleted some folders that contained install stuff and it worked.
Still hate Uplay.
You smarted out Uplay, doesn't that feel good after all ^-^
+ :-X for your persistence ;)
You deserve a kudos for that one D_B +1 :-X
yep. Well done, D_B :-D +1 :-X
Quote from: Dweller_Benthos on December 04, 2014, 08:31:38 AM
... Uplay stores the info in folder with number assigned to each game. FC4 is 420, go figure...
Probably because FC
4 wishes it was as good as FC
2.0
Good job, D_B +1 for the general instructions that might help another PC gamer.
guys, stop spamming D_B with kudos. He might get spoiled. :-D
My head has swelled with kudo-goodness lol.
But yeah, after reading some forums on how people were having issues exactly like mine and that the Uplay tehcnos were "considering" adding a backup feature, it wasn't really all that hard to do. Some of the instructions I found online for other Uplay games needed registry changes, updating a little bit, then deleting folders, etc, so I'm glad this was actually pretty easy, once I had all the files I needed in one place.
:)
Still, you've earned the kudos D_B. Most people would have said "stuff it" and given up - people like me.
+1 :-X
indeed :)
After paying $60 for it, I wasn't about to let it get the better of me.
>:D
http://imgur.com/YqbBeXa (http://imgur.com/YqbBeXa)
Had some fun with the "Inspect Elements" function in Chrome and the Uplay Wikipedia page :-() :-() :-() :-() :-() :-() :-() :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: >:D >:D :-() :-()
:-()
Oh man, that's too funny. Seems I'm not the only one to hate on Upay lol
I'm glad that you found it funny :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:-X :laugh:
Nice find GKID7891 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :-X
"The more you pay, the more free goods you will be able to have".
???? ::) Gee... thanks...
yep, nice one, also the "U pay" is great :-D
Quote from: Art Blade on January 17, 2015, 03:03:30 AM
yep, nice one, also the "U pay" is great :-D
:laugh: :-X
I Imagine Ubi is getting a really good laugh at the expense of gamers!
http://imgur.com/ZKH0Tbl (http://imgur.com/ZKH0Tbl)
"Fixed" Wikipedia's Ubisoft article >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :-() :-() :-() :-() :-()
Used the SAME METHOD as used on my last picture (Paint and Inspect Element)
OH SNAP!
LOL
there isn't a topic for it and not worth creating one so I just add this here:
This evening I finished downloading a 600MB update.. happy download, guys. I was thinking about those of you who have a crappy connection. Maybe a good idea for you to brace for impact..
??? OMG!!! which game?
FC4 had a small update yesterday that was around 600mb. (PC version)
patchnotes (http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1006696-IGE-Co-Op-Week-of-February-1st-2015) are where they always are, in the FC4 forums
And here's a more tasteful Ubisoft mock (https://pcgamerblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/ubifail.jpg)
:-X :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Yep, that should be the new top level of fail. There is no fail greater than a Ubi Fail.
Dang, I hope they don't force me to do the update - game works just fine for me and I really don't want to download 600 mb :-\\
stiku already showed me that nice ubi fail ^-^
lol @ the Ubi fail :laugh:
PZ, maybe don't play FC4 online if you can avoid it. Being Ubi, it'll go to a download whether you want it to or not as soon as you start your next online gaming session. As far as I know, you can't turn updating off like you can with Steam.
On another note, last night I spent twenty minutes hunting down a bunch of collectibles and had almost finished taking down an outpost undetected when the screen faded out and I was told that my connection to Uplay had been lost, or words to that effect. So much for that twenty minutes of my life :angry-new: I tried to reconnect to them but couldn't, so I had to go offline to play. Had to start all over again from my last save, miles away, re-collect all that stuff and start liberating the outpost again from scratch.
Uplay appears to be back up again for me now, but it was supremely annoying to get unceremoniously dumped after a twenty-minute session, then have to do what I'd just done all over again. The fault was evidently at Uplay's end as I had no probs connecting to anything else on the net at the time.
This is just one reason why I hate online SP gaming, especially via Uplay. Another is this - if I'm playing offline, I can't take screenshots using Uplay's screen capture hotkey. It just does nothing. Sure, there are other ways to capture, but why the frig won't they let me use their handy screencap function when I'm offline, especially seeing as how the caps are saved to my very own HDD and not to some cloud?
That's a rhetorical question. I know why - because it's yet another way for Ubi to coerce single players into doing it online ::)
EDIT:
Quote from: Stiku on February 05, 2015, 06:57:57 AM
FC4 had a small update yesterday that was around 600mb. (PC version)
I wonder if that was what caused my drop-out? I went online to play today and I didn't see any updates downloading ????
Quote from: PZ on February 05, 2015, 08:21:59 AM
Dang, I hope they don't force me to do the update - game works just fine for me and I really don't want to download 600 mb :-\\
Just checked and got the usual 1.3GB "update". Luckily at home I launch from a shortcut that skps intro movies, this also skips a bunch of Uplay stuff so that it doesn't check for updates before the game runs, so I don't get delayed playing. Since I only play offline anyway, it's no big deal. I'll copy the update from the computer at w@&k on Monday and bring it home. Don't have the bigger drive with me that can handle the whole game file.
I started the game last night and sure enough, the "download started" message appeared. So into the downloads I go and stop it. Then already in the game, I went to the map and sure enough another download message. Again I stop it and start playing. In the main map, some glitch would take me all over the map without me making any kind of movement with the controller! Then when wandering, the weapon wheel would come up and randomly spin around selecting different weapons.
Then I foolishly did one of the "Y" missions - the one where you are weapon-less and need to avoid animals while making your way to your weapons cache. Made it all the way to the end, picked up my weapons and tried to go elsewhere. The "warning you are leaving the mission area" popped up even though I had already completed the mission!
I tried to fast travel, and the game reported that I cannot do so. I left the area anyway, and nothing bad happened, but I was hopelessly stuck in the mission with no option to escape.
Finally, seeing no other option, I aborted the game and restarted - took me right back to the beginning of the same "Y" mission. Not wanting to do that lame mission again, I gave up to download the update. Miraculously, after doing so, everything worked just fine.
I believe those a$$holes at Ubi figured out how to sabotage my game unless I did the download \:/
nice, PZ :-D
I had a dropout too, yesterday I got disconnected from both u-play and steam when I was in mid-game of ACU which happened to be a competitive online club event. While steam popped back up almost instantly, I couldn't get any UBI game to w@&k online as they are all related to u-play. Funny enough, the front-end of u-play worked, only the data that related to my games and partially related account was missing and it stayed that way for perhaps one hour or more. >:((
Quote from: Dweller_Benthos on February 06, 2015, 08:11:42 AM
Just checked and got the usual 1.3GB "update". Luckily at home I launch from a shortcut that skps intro movies, this also skips a bunch of Uplay stuff so that it doesn't check for updates before the game runs, so I don't get delayed playing.
Interesting. I also skip the intro, that must be why I don't see the update.
Since it's running fine as it is, I think I'll stick with it.
Bloody Ubi, they're good at making gamers' lives miserable :-( :D :angry-new: ::)
Waking up Sunday morning at 6:00, wife's still sleeping, aha, got some game time for myself, haven't played for two days :)
Damn ??? can you believe it, a 1368MB patch update >:((
Lucky my system is downloading at around 400kB/s, so It'll only take about an hour to download, there goes my game time for the day :D
:D ::)
Dang, nex, sounds like you inherited my luck
I think these latest updates are just to add on the new DLC content, though god knows why they have to be so huge.
I also had a glitch on a Yogi-Reggie mission, same kind of thing, I went to the spot, picked up my stuff, and got no mission complete message, and when I tried to leave, got the leave mission message. I had to reload from the last checkpoint three times in order for it to realize I had picked up my stuff.
As far as those missions go, I find them sorta amusing, and usually there's something you can pick up along the way to use as a weapon. Heck, one time I lucked out and came across the Sherpa trader and just bought some stuff from him to get me through the rest of the mission.
Another thing I can't stand is that we went from unlimited game saves in FC2, to only 3 slots in the AC series, to only a single game save in FC4. I don't know why they want to ruin our fun in potentially sharing saved games
Because their games are cr...wait, its Ubisoft that is crap :laugh:
I miss FC3's Kill Count tally log. :(
It tracked not only the number of each type of animal killed but also the total enemies eliminated including all the various methods you used to make them dead. >:D
:-D Agreed, it provided a good record of mayhem caused >:D